They wouldn't have had to 'move' to Catholic. It'd probably be a shorter drive there than it would be for some kids attending valle. I don't know how far Jefferson County is from the river.
Class 1 Early Top 10
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They wouldn't have had to 'move' to Catholic. It'd probably be a shorter drive there than it would be for some kids attending valle. I don't know how far Jefferson County is from the river.
Playing Liberal in 78 is what kept our team the undefeated or 1 loss (can't remember) defending state championship team out of the playoffs. Was a point system back them so beating Liberal who had a less than ideal record actually hurt us worse for that system.
Yeah, I think he really meant 87. Liberal would have been in the WEMO then. Liberal never had that kind of success playin our teams.
In 1987 they weren't in the WEMO. They lost to Adrian 8-0 in the first round of playoffs. South wind that day was insane. The whole game was played at one end of the field.
Nice attempt at a slight though. Bout as effective as the others.
I think you are mistaken about this mosofan. Mcneel would have been a senior when Wormington was a freshman. So, there is no way that happened. McNeel was 6'3" and about 220.
I was just asking if it was the same guy. I remember Wormington doing that to a big dominant linebacker from Greenfield. One of those plays I'll never forget. I just remember the Greenfield linebacker destroying everyone till he and Wormington took each other head on. May be a different Greenfield linebacker.
Only team's Possibly Beating Valle This year are Lamar And Thayer That's it Valle Wins it easily !! And like another Poster posted there Back ups played as much as their starters last year and still rolled other teams.. So it really don't matter how many seniors they have.
Ps ill be cheering they fumble the state game
Thayer is going to be pretty good this year, but I don't believe they're going to be on the same level as Valle such as last year, I could be wrong, but I see Valle 2-3 TDs better than Thayer, but hey, it's preseason and I've definitely been wrong before.
WEEK 1 TOP 10 RESULTS
Class 1
1. Valle Catholic (1-0) def. St. Vincent (0-1), 77-0
2. Marceline (1-0) def. Scotland County (0-1), 27-0
3. Hamilton (1-0) def. Maysville (0-1), 41-12
T4. Mark Twain (1-0) def. Milan (0-1), 25-14
T4. Lincoln (1-0) def. Rich Hill (0-1), 52-3
6. Skyline (0-1) lost to Class 2 Lexington (1-0), 35-0
7. Lockwood (1-0) def. Liberal (0-1), 50-21
8. Thayer (0-1) lost to Hayti (1-0), 26-0
9. Polo (1-0) def. Orrick (0-1), 60-30
10. Scotland County (0-1) lost to No. 2 Marceline (1-0), 27-0
Also receiving votes:
East Buchanan (1-0) def. South Harrison (0-1), 42-0
South Shelby (0-1) lost to Class 2 No. 6 Brookfield (1-0), 14-7
Cass Midway (1-0) def. Osceola (0-1), 36-16
West Platte (1-0) def. KC Central Academy (0-1), 41-18
Marionville (1-0) def. Class 2 Sherwood (0-1), 40-0
Westran (1-0) def. Salisbury (0-1), 40-0
Class 1
1. Valle Catholic (1-0) def. St. Vincent (0-1), 77-0
2. Marceline (1-0) def. Scotland County (0-1), 27-0
3. Hamilton (1-0) def. Maysville (0-1), 41-12
T4. Mark Twain (1-0) def. Milan (0-1), 25-14
T4. Lincoln (1-0) def. Rich Hill (0-1), 52-3
6. Skyline (0-1) lost to Class 2 Lexington (1-0), 35-0
7. Lockwood (1-0) def. Liberal (0-1), 50-21
8. Thayer (0-1) lost to Hayti (1-0), 26-0
9. Polo (1-0) def. Orrick (0-1), 60-30
10. Scotland County (0-1) lost to No. 2 Marceline (1-0), 27-0
Also receiving votes:
East Buchanan (1-0) def. South Harrison (0-1), 42-0
South Shelby (0-1) lost to Class 2 No. 6 Brookfield (1-0), 14-7
Cass Midway (1-0) def. Osceola (0-1), 36-16
West Platte (1-0) def. KC Central Academy (0-1), 41-18
Marionville (1-0) def. Class 2 Sherwood (0-1), 40-0
Westran (1-0) def. Salisbury (0-1), 40-0
how in the world does Orrick score 30 on Polo? Thought the staff went to west texas and got some new defense?
One loss in 78 was to pierce city. Game was at Greenfield and it ended the defending state champion wildcat's 20 plus game winning streak. PC scored on a punt return, second half kick-off return, and returned an interception to win 21 - 0.
David McNeil had graduated the year before. He could have been on the field in 77 with wormington from jasper, who would have been a sophmore. Both great players!
King City who just won the GRC last year in 11-man and returned most of their team just lost to North Andrew 48-0 in their opener. I have not seen any team drop from 11-man to 8-man and dominate. I get tired of people acting like 8-man is an inferior game.
Hoops I think you are correct as a Greenfieldian I hope we can compete in 8 man but I think it's an uphill battle. Our boys and coaches are working hard to play catch up though.
It is a totally different animal that requires a different mindset to be successful. I really enjoyed being part of the game planning for it.
North Andrew is 48-2 over the last 4 seasons with two state championships in 8 man if I am correct.
Don't compare that to 8 man being inferior, it's one game.
That's the equivalent of a 3-A team who won their conference dropping to 2A and playing Lamar and losing 50-0 and then you giving them crap and saying that we now know for sure that class 2 is way better than Class 3. . That same team could easily go on to an 8-3 season, etc... etc..
North Andrew is one of the few 8 man powerhouses over the last few years.
You want some stats?
Rock Port
Last 4 seasons of 11-man(2008-11): 17-22
First four seasons of 8-man(2012-15): 31-14
Their first 3 years in 8-man(2012-14): 26-8
Tarkio
Last 4 seasons of 11-man(2006-09): 5-34
First 4 seasons of 8-man(2010-13): 19-22
Tarkio played St. Joe Christian in their last year of 11-man(2009), as an 8-man trial run and defeated Christian 12-6 in double overtime. St. Joe Christian went on to finish as the 8-man state runner-up(with a record of 10-2 against 8-man schools) that year. Meanwhile, Tarkio(who beat them), finished 2-7 with their 11-man schedule.
Those may not be dominating numbers, but goes to show that 8 man football is not anywhere near as challenging and competitive. 85% of the teams in 8-man are less than mediocre at best.
Some of the 8-man powerhouses could easily go 11-man with the kinds of numbers that they have going out for football, but they won't because they know they would have .500 seasons at best and wouldn't compete in the state playoffs whatsoever.
The only exception to that statement is MAYBE 2015 Stanberry.
Rankings after week 1
CLASS 1
Rank, team, Rec., Pts., LW
1. Valle Catholic (14), 1-0, 140, 1
2. Marceline, 1-0, 122, 2
3. Hamilton-Penney, 1-0, 115, 3
4. Lincoln, 1-0, 91, T4
5. Mark Twain, 1-0, 85, T4
6. Lockwood, 1-0, 66, 7
7. Polo, 1-0, 47, 9
8. East Buchanan, 1-0, 33, NR
9. Cass-Midway, 1-0, 21, NR
10. Hayti, 1-0, 13, NR
Dropped out: No. 6 Skyline, No. 8 Thayer, No. 10 Scotland County
Also receiving votes: Westran (1-0), 9; Skyline (0-1), 9; Monroe City (1-0), 7; South Shelby (0-1), 7; Thayer (0-1), 3; Marionville (1-0), 2
CLASS 1
Rank, team, Rec., Pts., LW
1. Valle Catholic (14), 1-0, 140, 1
2. Marceline, 1-0, 122, 2
3. Hamilton-Penney, 1-0, 115, 3
4. Lincoln, 1-0, 91, T4
5. Mark Twain, 1-0, 85, T4
6. Lockwood, 1-0, 66, 7
7. Polo, 1-0, 47, 9
8. East Buchanan, 1-0, 33, NR
9. Cass-Midway, 1-0, 21, NR
10. Hayti, 1-0, 13, NR
Dropped out: No. 6 Skyline, No. 8 Thayer, No. 10 Scotland County
Also receiving votes: Westran (1-0), 9; Skyline (0-1), 9; Monroe City (1-0), 7; South Shelby (0-1), 7; Thayer (0-1), 3; Marionville (1-0), 2
I am saying that a lot of people act like 8-man is a crap game and that 11-man is so superior to 8-man that 8-man teams should not even be mentioned in the same breath as 11-man.
You are actually making my point by saying that teams that drop down a class are going to lose to the power houses. It just goes to show that some teams at the next level down (i.e Class 1 to 8-man, Class 2 to Class 1, Class 3 to Class 2, etc.) are going to dominate teams that are above them. Even some 8-man teams could dominate some 11-man teams.
You are actually making my point by saying that teams that drop down a class are going to lose to the power houses. It just goes to show that some teams at the next level down (i.e Class 1 to 8-man, Class 2 to Class 1, Class 3 to Class 2, etc.) are going to dominate teams that are above them. Even some 8-man teams could dominate some 11-man teams.
King City hasn't won a game in their District since 2011. Let's not put them on too high of a pedestal. Their a weak sister.
If by that you mean the bottom of the barrell Class 1 teams would lose to powerhouse 8 man teams(sometimes), then yes you are correct.
Did you see my example from 2009? Tarkio who finished last place in the GRC that year, but the 8-man state runner-ups. lololol
Like last year when a 5th place WEMO team beat the 2nd place SRVC team 50-8 in 2nd round of districts
Just because the SRVC sucks doesn't mean the WEMO doesn't too. If Lockwood beats RH by 50 it doesn't mean Lockwood is good.
5th place beat 2nd by turbo clock.
And the year before your champ got turbo'd by WEMO. Wasn't it 35-0 at half?
The End.
Yes I saw that example. St Joe Christian was nowhere near the 2nd best team in 8-man that year. They just benefitted from other side being loaded and their side being weak. And they played 11-man in that game against Tarkio. They were at a disadvantage and still lost by one score.
Plus King City is not a bottom of the barrel team. They won the GRC last year. They were a middle team in C1 last year.
But if you want to stay up there on your high and mighty throne and look down at teams just because they play 3 less players, go ahead. I will continue to go to 8-man games and enjoy them.
They may beat Rich Hill by 90, but RH may be "Archie circa 2013" bad which was a historically bad WEMO team or in SRVC terminology middle of the pack. I can't wait to see Liberal & Jasper get rung up in District play. Then maybe Lockwood can squeak past Adrian, Midway or Archie only to get railroaded by the Bobcats.
Some of you people take high School Football way to serious for Real.... Their kids who gives a poop if 1 conf is better than another whoopee want a cookie !? When Its all said And done the kids had fun And NO ONE from the Wemo or Srvc stands a chance in the end... So enjoy your 9-0 Wemo Team and enjoy your 9-0 Srvc team bc in the end no one will remember them... These boards are getting ridiculous.
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Hayti will give Valle a run. Lincoln is a top 4 team for sure if they stay healthy. They are good.
