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I don't know which team mates you talked to but I know more than a few who very much support his return, and those who understand in whole why he was leaving also supported him in that. It wasn't that he made a mistake. He was going to miss his senior year of playing because of personal reasons that i am not going to divulge here.. not because he was transferring to play for a bigger or better school. He had no intention of playing at Parkview or any other Springfield school. Those of us who support his return, do so because we understand his personal situation.. not because we want to win, but because we care about him...
 
You just actually have to know this kid and you'd know why even people in lockwood are pissed.... And no he'll play some low level College ball IMO.. And I Honestly have a feeling Valle wont win it this year !!! Its the first yr in a while I actually think they lose to Thayer and Marceline... I'll be cheering for Thayer that's for sure.

Valle is the champ until someone knocks them off. Lockwood gonna even be in the conversation?
 
Valle is the champ until someone knocks them off. Lockwood gonna even be in the conversation?
I know I'll regret getting involved in this discussion, but I haven't done something ill advised for at least 5 minutes, so here goes. Valle's 2015 team won the 2015 show me bowl game for their division. That team will always be the 2015 champion. This season has no champion as of yet, so the whole "Champion until someone knocks them off" doesn't work for me.
 
Very few SRVC teams have had a chance to be in the quarters without beating Valle....something everyone seems to agree isn't the same as most other teams games. How many Thayer teams would have been in the quarters, semis or final if Valle wasn't blocking the path.

Lockwood has been in the SRVC since its inception I do believe.

Bouldin is a good kid. He probably gets his head filled with nonsense from the locals about just how good he is. THAT is why I said he needs to find out just how good he is. Putting up 200 yds on 5 carries against teams trying to find 25 kids does him no good.
 
Very few SRVC teams have had a chance to be in the quarters without beating Valle....something everyone seems to agree isn't the same as most other teams games. How many Thayer teams would have been in the quarters, semis or final if Valle wasn't blocking the path.

Lockwood has been in the SRVC since its inception I do believe.

Its unfortunate for the SRVC but as long as I can remember they've had to have to face Valle in the first game, if they made it past districts and into the state bracket.

* cue shrimp comment about how Valle will beat anyone in the SRVC, but especially Lockwood*
 
Talk about a thread blowing up. It's crazy how it's jumped around on so many different topics. From the sound of this board, everyone has been really eating up the no show/ reshow of a player drama over here. It's been an unfortunate distraction for these seniors and under classman that they didn't need to deal with. These guys are trying to over come the loss of so many seniors from last year now this drama has only hurt the team in their developement to get ready for this year. Pretty selfish if ya ask me and I've heard the rest of his teammates agree. I was talking to a couple of my old teammates and no way would any of them done that let alone allowed him to come back after missing that long. Lambert and Mike Rader would have said hit the road. But it's a different era. I know the greats of years past would have never put themselves above the team. Hope it all works out and these kids can move on. I'm ready for the season to start so we don't hear anymore about this. BTW fbfan good luck to Greenfield getting 31 kids into 8 man games. Had every opportunity to get back in to 11 man but the basketball gurus wanted no part.


Haha how many of those kids were committed to football last winter ya think? Gotta get your numbers back, more success, more support and more participation makes it easier to transition back to 11 man at a later date IMO. Hopefully you're right and Lockwood doesn't have Togo through the same issues but not yet anyway thanks to Golden City carrying y'all
 
Its unfortunate for the SRVC but as long as I can remember they've had to have to face Valle in the first game, if they made it past districts and into the state bracket.

* cue shrimp comment about how Valle will beat anyone in the SRVC, but especially Lockwood*

Who in the SRVC would beat them? I doubt an SRVC All-Star team would beat them.
 
Hopefully you're right and Lockwood doesn't have Togo through the same issues but not yet anyway thanks to Golden City carrying y'all
Yeah Golden city carries us with an extra 3-5 kids. A few kids from Everton told me years ago (this was back before the 8 man days) that when they tried to co-op with Greenfield, your coach replied to them with "sure.. we need some kids to bench" No wonder they went to Miller.
 
Dream game 1979 Jasper vs Valle 2015... Jasper would punish Valle. With all these Valle fan boys are making me hate them And to be honest coach Judd And all the coachs are nice Men.. Their fans not so much
 
Dream game 1979 Jasper vs Valle 2015... Jasper would punish Valle.

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Not sure if you're familiar with how far nutrition and weightlifting programs have come in the last 35 years. Today's kids are significantly bigger, stronger, and faster than kids were 15 years ago, much less 35 years ago. Valle 2015 would turbo Jasper 1979.
 
Dream game 1979 Jasper vs Valle 2015... Jasper would punish Valle. With all these Valle fan boys are making me hate them And to be honest coach Judd And all the coachs are nice Men.. Their fans not so much
I'd be on the sidelines cheering for Jasper.
 
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I know I'll regret getting involved in this discussion, but I haven't done something ill advised for at least 5 minutes, so here goes. Valle's 2015 team won the 2015 show me bowl game for their division. That team will always be the 2015 champion. This season has no champion as of yet, so the whole "Champion until someone knocks them off" doesn't work for me.

Majority, if not all, of this year's starters for Valle played for at least a full half of 13 games last year. Benefit of being up by 50 at halftime virtually every game.

They're still the champs until someone beats them.
 
Yeah Golden city carries us with an extra 3-5 kids. A few kids from Everton told me years ago (this was back before the 8 man days) that when they tried to co-op with Greenfield, your coach replied to them with "sure.. we need some kids to bench" No wonder they went to Miller.


Hahaha Everton and Dadeville have been saying for years that they would beat Greenfield if either one had a football team. Ask those Everton boys about all the park beat downs they took. No wonder why when Greenfield offered to cover all costs for them to co-op the chicken$h!t$ backed out.
 
Park beat downs? So basically you're saying that your team went to Everton to street fight? I guess that's right since that's how past teams have played on the field. Doesn't change the fact that a group of kids offered to play with you and got told they were the rejects. Dadeville didnt play because it interfered with basketball. I know this because I have friends and family on both teams. Either way Everton is better off with Miller..at least its not 8 man.
 
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Park beat downs? So basically you're saying that your team went to Everton to street fight? I guess that's right since that's how past teams have played on the field.

Such a moron. Basketball, Football, Tennis, heck we beat em at going down the slides and spinning the merry go round. Street Fights on the field haha I guess after all those turbo clocks it just felt like y'all had gotten beat down in a street fight. My personal favorite was the one where Lockwood players vandalized our field the night before the game like it was intimidating only to show up and get pretty much shutout. Should have went to bed early for that whooping.
 
Very few SRVC teams have had a chance to be in the quarters without beating Valle....something everyone seems to agree isn't the same as most other teams games. How many Thayer teams would have been in the quarters, semis or final if Valle wasn't blocking the path.

Lockwood has been in the SRVC since its inception I do believe.

Bouldin is a good kid. He probably gets his head filled with nonsense from the locals about just how good he is. THAT is why I said he needs to find out just how good he is. Putting up 200 yds on 5 carries against teams trying to find 25 kids does him no good.
Does that go for Miller kids when they're good too? Just sayin..
 
Its unfortunate for the SRVC but as long as I can remember they've had to have to face Valle in the first game, if they made it past districts and into the state bracket.

* cue shrimp comment about how Valle will beat anyone in the SRVC, but especially Lockwood*

They don't get out of districts anyway so the point is moot.
 
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Such a moron. Basketball, Football, Tennis, heck we beat em at going down the slides and spinning the merry go round. Street Fights on the field haha I guess after all those turbo clocks it just felt like y'all had gotten beat down in a street fight. My personal favorite was the one where Lockwood players vandalized our field the night before the game like it was intimidating only to show up and get pretty much shutout. Should have went to bed early for that whooping.
And I suppose you think Greenfield didn't vandalize our fields?? They did.. and our street signs. and stole our boys football signs our of their yards. Last game I was at was a turbo clock for us, and your boys left crying... I know that for a fact because I hugged some your boys and congratulated them on a good game...as a decent person (not a moron, as you called me) would do.. as for street fight games, that was on YOUR field, where several of the Greenfield parents came up to me and said that they were sorry for how their kids played
 
They don't get out of districts anyway so the point is moot.
Nope.. we lost to Marionville, and it was in a fair game. Marionville lost to Thayre, who I prayed would beat Valle.. hopefully this year someone beats the mighty Valle and takes the title... whoever it is that plays valle, I'll be cheering for them
 
So skins, now you are saying the '79 Jasper team would punish the '15 Valle team. I watched every Jasper game in '79, (my brother-in-law was a senior on that Jasper team). Jasper won the state championship that year but, they were not dominant by any means.
 
So skins, now you are saying the '79 Jasper team would punish the '15 Valle team. I watched every Jasper game in '79, (my brother-in-law was a senior on that Jasper team). Jasper won the state championship that year but, they were not dominant by any means.

If you mean beating people 70-0 You're correct.. Just listening to old timers around here just say there was more competition back then.. Who knows !! I was just saying hey Dream game and taking my home team to win. Note to self don't have an imagination or faith in your home town Check.
 
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If you mean beating people 70-0 You're correct.. Just listening to old timers around here just say there was more competition back then.. Who knows !! I was just saying hey Dream game and taking my home team to win. Note to self don't have an imagination or faith in your home town Check.

Be realistic. Especially if you never saw them play and are relying on the rose colored glasses of old-timers.
 
And I suppose you think Greenfield didn't vandalize our fields?? They did.. and our street signs. and stole our boys football signs our of their yards. Last game I was at was a turbo clock for us, and your boys left crying... I know that for a fact because I hugged some your boys and congratulated them on a good game...as a decent person (not a moron, as you called me) would do.. as for street fight games, that was on YOUR field, where several of the Greenfield parents came up to me and said that they were sorry for how their kids played
when was this?
 
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Not sure if you're familiar with how far nutrition and weightlifting programs have come in the last 35 years. Today's kids are significantly bigger, stronger, and faster than kids were 15 years ago, much less 35 years ago. Valle 2015 would turbo Jasper 1979.

Guess the teams from the 80s and on woulda put a hurtin on that Valle team that's always brought up as the best of all time(1960s?).
 
Shoot With the talk on these boards you might as well Cancel class 1 And 2 And give Valle And Lamar the Championships... Class 4 would of been the same With Webb but all the players hit the strip clubs And bars the night before the game And lost to a Team They never should of so... 3 classes are cancelled This yr And likely to never return.
 
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Shit With the talk on these boards you might as well Cancel class 1 And 2 And give Valle And Lamar the Championships... Class 4 would of been the same With Webb but all the players hit the strip clubs And bars the night before the game And lost to a Team They never should of so... 3 classes are cancelled This yr And likely to never return.

You do realize you're not supposed to cuss on here right? Read your terms of service before you get yourself banned.
 
And I suppose you think Greenfield didn't vandalize our fields?? They did.. and our street signs. and stole our boys football signs our of their yards. Last game I was at was a turbo clock for us, and your boys left crying... I know that for a fact because I hugged some your boys and congratulated them on a good game...as a decent person (not a moron, as you called me) would do.. as for street fight games, that was on YOUR field, where several of the Greenfield parents came up to me and said that they were sorry for how their kids played



Nope never happened we were too busy messing with Stockton and Marionville. See most Greenfield football players don't actually think there is a rivalry with Lockwood, most don't care. It's just dummies like me stirring crap up on a message board that nobody cares about!
Greenfield was more occupied with trying to take down the big dogs such as Marionville, Stockton, Strafford to care about our little red headed step sister 8 miles away.
 
Dream game 1979 Jasper vs Valle 2015... Jasper would punish Valle. With all these Valle fan boys are making me hate them And to be honest coach Judd And all the coachs are nice Men.. Their fans not so much
I've seen both.... Valle by as many as they want.
Valle has nice fans and coaches and players. It is easy to be nice to people you aren't threatened by.
 
Does that go for Miller kids when they're good too? Just sayin..
That goes for anyone. I don't think Kyle is THAT good but he is a huge part of what Lockwood has done the last 3 years. Millers best teams have done it more with overall team talent than individual talent. The 2 Jack QBs come the closest to being held back by the competition. I wouldn't have blamed them if they moved to some place like Spfld Catholic to up the competition but they were never motivated by future football like Kyle MIGHT be.
 
Dream game 1979 Jasper vs Valle 2015... Jasper would punish Valle. With all these Valle fan boys are making me hate them And to be honest coach Judd And all the coachs are nice Men.. Their fans not so much
I am one of those old-timers that saw this Jasper team play, since I was in high school at the time. They were a very good team for that time, but they didn't have elite size or speed. They had a lot of talent, we're coached very well, and executed very well. They lost a game early in the year that they had dominated, excepthe for special teams and turnovers. They had a huge scare in the playoffs vs Springfield Catholic. Today's kids are just so much bigger, stronger, and faster than kids in 1979. The game has also changed with so many teams going to the spread. Very few teams passed the ball back then, and I think Jasper would have struggled with a passing team. But back in 1979, they were definitely a very strong team.
 
I am one of those old-timers that saw this Jasper team play, since I was in high school at the time. They were a very good team for that time, but they didn't have elite size or speed. They had a lot of talent, we're coached very well, and executed very well. They lost a game early in the year that they had dominated, excepthe for special teams and turnovers. They had a huge scare in the playoffs vs Springfield Catholic. Today's kids are just so much bigger, stronger, and faster than kids in 1979. The game has also changed with so many teams going to the spread. Very few teams passed the ball back then, and I think Jasper would have struggled with a passing team. But back in 1979, they were definitely a very strong team.



So old timers? How would Greenfields 77 state champs hold up against the 79 Jasper team. I have video of some of our games from that year but pretty grainy low quality compared to the video we get these days.

I know we had two d1 level guys on that team. McNeel QB/LB as mentioned before and a monster tight end in Reeves.
The skill positions were very quick as we also won state track that year or got 2nd can't remember but had several school records set in that era of athletes.

Basketball teams were always very competitive deep in playoffs with our best year being 74 I think. Point is lots of athletes back then
 
I was thinking that might not even have been Jaspers best team ever but that is for Jasper to decide. I firmly believe Millers best teams weren't the state champs team.
Greenfield was likely the better team of the 2 you chose.
 
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So old timers? How would Greenfields 77 state champs hold up against the 79 Jasper team. I have video of some of our games from that year but pretty grainy low quality compared to the video we get these days.

I know we had two d1 level guys on that team. McNeel QB/LB as mentioned before and a monster tight end in Reeves.
The skill positions were very quick as we also won state track that year or got 2nd can't remember but had several school records set in that era of athletes.

Basketball teams were always very competitive deep in playoffs with our best year being 74 I think. Point is lots of athletes back then

Who beat Liberal from down there in 87? I know they'd had at least one loss when we played them in the playoffs.
 
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