Class 1 Early Top 10
- Thread starter Gubba Bump Shrimp
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I suspect we won't see that grape falls resident for another 10 years or so.
Im Not trying to be rude but NO.... No they wont !! Valle Wins it easy if they get by Marceline they wipe the floor with everyone else.
Wellington is an extremely young team, but I can see them sneaking into the top 10 mid season. They will lose to Lexington, but that might be the only loss on their schedule. Sophomore QB handled things well in West Platte tonight under bad conditions. They also have numerous guys with speed, hard to focus on stopping just one.
As frustrating as it is on the west side of the state to watch Valle win it every year, how bad is it on the east side that never have a chance to even make it to the final game? Has to be monotonous. Would love to see Valle open up that registration a little and compete in Class 2 or 3, it might even be more exciting for them to win in a bigger class.
As frustrating as it is on the west side of the state to watch Valle win it every year, how bad is it on the east side that never have a chance to even make it to the final game? Has to be monotonous. Would love to see Valle open up that registration a little and compete in Class 2 or 3, it might even be more exciting for them to win in a bigger class.
For you people that say Valle limits their enrollment, what do you base that on? How about instead of making accusations without any kind of evidence you try to find some. Give their office a call and act like you want your kid or kids to go there and see what they say.
Why wouldn't valle post their tuition on their web site...instead you have to call and have an interview. That's interesting.
Just want to say...Valle is Valle and will remain Valle and do what they do, however they do it...but they have been beaten during the state games. By who? Do the research. Because I will say this...although the score did not reflect much last year, virtually that same team is back this year, and they are coming with a vengeance, with more heart, more soul....and not one person has mentioned anything about them on this forum. And there were some pretty amazing things done during that game. So...maybe you all should do some research into that team, and their players and realize that the quiet teams are the most dangerous. It's still very early in the season...and football is a chess game...certain pieces have to be moved in certain places to reflect wins. Very strategic. So....good luck too all this season. And we will see who meets up at the end of the season...but please continue to discuss the whose who, and the what team does what where and why...cause I'm getting great laughs at all of this.... much respect to Valle and their successes, however they have done it...but they have been beaten. They are beatable.
That doesn't answer my question. Why not just put the tuition out there to attract more students?
A few days ago, I was actually went to all of the private schools websites(schools that were part of MSHSAA), and they over 90% of those schools have their tuition listed on their website. Valle was one of the very few schools that does not list their tuition.
So now you are assuming it would be a good value to the parents? Stg isn't a very big town. Ask your neighbor, I'm sure they know the answer.
Lamar will beat Valle but id be ok if Valle wins it all again in class 1 its a nice run by both schools.
If the tuition was low enough...don't all you private school boys say the education is superior?
Please enlighten me on when I said that private school education is superior? I'll wait for this as well.
How would it be? The same subjects have to be passed up on the hill as down the hill in order to get a diploma.
You've grabbed the wrong worms today, Veer.
Does Valle have to do the same standardized testing as Ste Genevieve?
No clue, never attended either school. That is a question for Kenny or any other poster from Ste. Gen.
Now who won't answer simple questions?
Why would you pay to go to a school that didn't provide a better education?
And you didn't attend either school..but you sure defend Valle a lot. I'm supposing you have a stake in there somewhere. Not buyin it sorry.
I really can't believe you asked that question! Of course they are state certified and take the same tests as everyone else in the state!
Did you think that their results have a secret multiplier of .35 applied to them?
Maybe they pay to send their kids to Valle because of the tradition their family has with the school, or they believe in the mission of a Catholic education. The education they receive at Valle is on every level with Ste. Gen or any other public school.
This is not a knock on Ste. Gen public but every teacher at Valle is not there for the money: they are there because they believe in the mission of the school. They could go up on the hill and get more money and a lot better retirement.
I actually did answer your question. You still haven't answered mine though, shocker.
I don't know how many went to college. Do you have reading comprehension issues? How many went to college from Adrian, Butler or Drexel? Please have an answer within 10 minutes or I'll say you're ducking my questions.
Private schools can post their tuition all they want. They give scholarships to select kids. Most cases, education is set at higher standards and grading scale. Kids go to private schools for many reasons. Education, yes athletically and sometimes both. There are less disciplinary problems in the private schools and I am sure that weighs in on parents decisions as well. As a coach, I loved playing Valle. Never beat them, but we competed our tales off and raised our level of play. Sure 20 years down the road MSHSAA will bring the team back for a reunion, but in the end you want to teach kids they have to work and raise their level of play to succeed in the world.
No. Private schools do not have to abide by the state curriculum set by DESE. The only way they do, is if they take state funding. If they do not use state funds, then they do not have to abide by state curriculum or do the state standardized testing. Most private schools across the country do not take state funding so they can set their own set of guidelines. That is why you hear of high prized recruits from other states, who attend a private or charter school, they have to take certain classes to get approved by the NCAA Clearinghouse.
When 90% of your kids play sports, athletes get scholarships or some other kind of financial aid.
I have never liked "private" being in same category as public. General idea is we all play by same rules, private does not, end of story in my opinion. A quick google search, 1st thing listed http://www.pembrokehill.org/admissions/tuitionfinancial-aid/tuition-and-fees/index.aspx. . . second google search showed: http://www.valleschools.org/admissions/tuition/ which is what Veer is pointing out. Valley Catholic in California came up very quick.
You don't know what you're talking about. 90+% of those kids also start at Valle in kindergarten. Most of the rest start kindergarten in one of the other parish schools. Do they start the scholarships then?
1. At one point Valle is or was the cheapest private catholic school in the state. That was well known to anybody who cared to ask.
2. Also at one point if you belonged to various churches throughout the county they would pay for part or all of the school(Weingarten was 100% at one point). The more kids you send to school there, the cheaper it gets and so on...
3. Valle's tuition stays low due to alumni donations. I believe over 75% of the tuition is covered by alumni fundraising to help drive the costs lower.
4. No athletes that I have ever known in my 30 years has received a "scholarship".
5. The reason parents send their kids to Valle is two-fold. Tradition or Catholic religion. I know it's hard to believe but this county has pretty strong religious roots. Predominantly Catholic.
If one of you valle gentlemen can correct me on any of the above feel free! I am at least 90% correct on what I typed.lol
Any other questions Veer?
Nice reply Kenny.
I agree with everything to be true that you said.
3. The Archdiocesan Development Fund is a Catholic drive held every year and they help the smaller schools like Valle, St. Vincents and probably St. Pius in Festus. The mission of the Catholic religion is to spread the faith, hence the above.
There was an alumni fundraiser a couple of years ago to enhance the football field (stands and locker facility ca 1955), acquire the old Rozier building to make a parish hall and house the weight room and band room. The weight room was in the basement of the old Western Auto building for years and only had 1 exit and the archdiocese finally declared it unsafe. And part of the fundraiser was to get the teacher pay up to archdiocesan levels. Like I said in another post, the teachers are not working there for the money!
4. You can double (Plus) those years for me!
It is amazing to me the number of people who believe that the Church of Ste. Genevieve has the money to willy nilly hand out athletic scholarships and restrict enrollment at Valle in order to have a good football team.
Excuses satisfy the maker!
The apologists won't even admit there's an advantage.
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Mr. blakmilk. I was born on a day, but not yesterday. I am not here to bash on Valle. Nothing but good things to say about the sports programs. DO NOT give me that crap that they do not give scholarships for sports. They clearly give scholarships! That is the only thing I have said about attending a private school. If you do attend a private school, YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THE TUITION TO ATTEND! Not get a scholarship. I believe if that was the case, there would be less kids attending private schools. As for the Valle scholarship thing... Call it what you like, but here it is:
Valle Catholic School is a faith based learning community admitting students of any gender, race, color, or national and ethnic origin to all rights, privileges, programs, and activities generally accorded or made available to students at the school. Valle Catholic School will not discriminate on the basis of gender, race, color, national origin, or ethnic origin in admission policy, SCHOLARSHIP and loan programs, and athletic and other school administered programs. (4101)
