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cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

HHSX2 said:
I agree it is an equalizer. But it is also a punishment for winning. Do I believe that privates have an advantage? Yes but not as big as everyong in here makes it out to be. The schools who skirt the rules will either just move to a different school and start all over again or they are to big to get the punishement. Until MSHAA cracks down on them it will continue to happen. But the make private their own class is not really an option either. Can you imagine if we just did away with classes and everyone has to play no matter the schools size in public. The tears would wash this site out but that is what you are wanting to do with privates. What is good for the goose is good for the gander? RIght? If you dont like the rules of the club your school joined tell them leave. People on here think its a government operation. Its not. It is a glorified club which you are free to leave at any time. I wish it was as easy as just seperate privates and public. Personally I am in favor of the championship factor for everyone. I would sure as hell rather win a state championship in a class or two above were you should be.

Separating them is fair and can be done successfully as proven by other states. The champ factor should not apply to publics as they don't have an advantage over other publics. The champ factor can work but not with a 2 class cap and not with 8 points needed to do it. There will be no perfect answer to all as noone can agree but i think most of us agree the current model isnt working.

HHSX2 · Dec 16, 2024

cardsfan200306 said:
no thats an equalizer for the unfair advantage of being able to recruit. I will never understand why privates complain about the field being leveled. most if not all act like they have no advantage or that the publics should just deal with the advantage and say thank you for the opportunity to play lmao

I agree it is an equalizer. But it is also a punishment for winning. Do I believe that privates have an advantage? Yes but not as big as everyong in here makes it out to be. The schools who skirt the rules will either just move to a different school and start all over again or they are to big to get the punishement. Until MSHAA cracks down on them it will continue to happen. But the make private their own class is not really an option either. Can you imagine if we just did away with classes and everyone has to play no matter the schools size in public. The tears would wash this site out but that is what you are wanting to do with privates. What is good for the goose is good for the gander? RIght? If you dont like the rules of the club your school joined tell them leave. People on here think its a government operation. Its not. It is a glorified club which you are free to leave at any time. I wish it was as easy as just seperate privates and public. Personally I am in favor of the championship factor for everyone. I would sure as hell rather win a state championship in a class or two above were you should be.

TheDaddy · Dec 16, 2024

Just me I think he is probably a top 10 pick but number one will be a QB usually is. I can honestly say 2-3 QB's go before him. Any team picking in the top 10 usually need a QB.

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

trumanbulldog42 said:
Yes, but he still isn't the best at either position in a weak class...

well of course not but the media has been slurping the prime and his boyz since j state and thats what all the mock drafts are done by media cucks.

trumanbulldog42 · Dec 16, 2024

cardsfan200306 said:
weakest draft class in memory

Yes, but he still isn't the best at either position in a weak class...

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

trumanbulldog42 said:
I've seen a lot about Travis Hunter as being the top pick or at the very least the top prospect. I'm not sure that I understand the thought process behind this. He is undoubtedly a prospect that we haven't seen the likes of for a very long time if ever. However, in the NFL the chances of him playing both ways is basically zero except in special situations I would think. With that being the case, he would have to be either the best DB or the best WR by a lot and he seems to be neither. I can somewhat get on board with him winning the Heisman because he was very good both ways which nobody has done in a very long time. Thoughts?

weakest draft class in memory

trumanbulldog42 · Dec 16, 2024

I've seen a lot about Travis Hunter as being the top pick or at the very least the top prospect. I'm not sure that I understand the thought process behind this. He is undoubtedly a prospect that we haven't seen the likes of for a very long time if ever. However, in the NFL the chances of him playing both ways is basically zero except in special situations I would think. With that being the case, he would have to be either the best DB or the best WR by a lot and he seems to be neither. I can somewhat get on board with him winning the Heisman because he was very good both ways which nobody has done in a very long time. Thoughts?

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

HHSX2 said:
So when a private wins and they get moved up a class or two that is not punishment?

no thats an equalizer for the unfair advantage of being able to recruit. I will never understand why privates complain about the field being leveled. most if not all act like they have no advantage or that the publics should just deal with the advantage and say thank you for the opportunity to play lmao

HHSX2 · Dec 16, 2024

cardsfan200306 said:
they are the same as all privates as they can recruit without punishment.

So when a private wins and they get moved up a class or two that is not punishment?

AC100 · Dec 16, 2024

They have a decent freshman class.

Rogersville is good at a lot of sports other than football.

thetophat2021 · Dec 16, 2024

ugaboz said:
16 was a great year for Chrisman

I remember their 42-39 upset of a very, very good Staley team that year indeed!

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

J. Kane said:

ugaboz · Dec 16, 2024

quadzilla200 said:
They've lost their best boys basketball coach they've ever had this past summer and the best track coach they've ever had two years ago. I think the cupboard is bare. Chrisman had a nice stretch of success 2017+ with some great athletes but appears to be on hard times again.

16 was a great year for Chrisman

AC100 · Dec 16, 2024

I thought Sunday as a whole was off limits. One day a week should be so families can plan to do stuff without worry of a conflict .

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

J. Kane said:

Usl Championship Soccer GIF by Oakland Roots SC

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

shovel_option said:
Lincoln College Prep is public (KCPS)
Battle is public. Columbia Independent may be private, so not exactly sure how that works with the co-op.

lincoln is a magnet school which is gray area as shit and im not sure how im going to handle them yet for this scenario.
Battle is public but coop with a private so they go private side.

once again thank you for information

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

OldeCoach said:
….so Duchesne has 172 students…. More than half as many as almost all the other schools in class 3???
Record for 2024 was 1-9!!!
Take out their only win against an out of state private academy that had to be MS caliber competition and they averaged one TD a game!!!
Gave up an average of a bunch!!!
And the “success factor” puts them in class 3 !!!

And all “privates” are the same??? Please explain!!!

there are public schools that go undefeated and some that go winless they are the same in that they cannot recruit.
Duchesne was a semi finalist in 22 and district champ in 20 they earned their 3 points. as for win loss this year their failure to recruit doesnt mean we let them out of their champ factor. they are the same as all privates as they can recruit without punishment.

shovel_option · Dec 16, 2024

Lincoln College Prep is public (KCPS)
Battle is public. Columbia Independent may be private, so not exactly sure how that works with the co-op.

OldeCoach · Dec 16, 2024

….so Duchesne has 172 students…. More than half as many as almost all the other schools in class 3???
Record for 2024 was 1-9!!!
Take out their only win against an out of state private academy that had to be MS caliber competition and they averaged one TD a game!!!
Gave up an average of a bunch!!!
And the “success factor” puts them in class 3 !!!

And all “privates” are the same??? Please explain!!!

MOKnowsBall · Dec 16, 2024

revno said:
But,,, Marionville not winning Class 1 was the biggest surprise to me. I wasn't surprised that Adrain won it all. They are in the mix every year.

I feel as if some people were down on Adrian this year. Basically the same Adrian team minus a running back and a few offensive lineman that (had a lead or was trailing by a few points, can’t remember, going into the 4th quarter against Lamar last year )

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

School	Private/Public	Enrollment
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Belton	Public	1019
Branson	Public	1075
Camdenton	Public	973
Cape Central	Public	1000
Capital City	Public	985
Cardinal Ritter	Private	339
Carthage	Public	1227
Central (springfield)	Public	1011
Central (St Joe)	Public	1270
Chaminade	Private	816
Eureka	Public	1209
Farmington	Public	1010
Fort Osage	Public	1159
Francis Howell North	Public	1262
Ft Zumwalt north	Public	1155
Ft Zumwalt West	Public	1240
Glendale	Public	1101
Grain Valley	Public	1108
Hazlewood East	Public	1004
Helias Catholic	Private	535
Hillcrest	Public	909
Jefferson City	Public	1033
Ladue Horton Watkins	Public	1022
Lafayette Wildwood	Public	1257
Lebanon	Public	1243
Liberty(wentzville)	Public	1234
Lincoln college prep	Public	910
Mccluer	Public	905
McCluer North	Public	900
Mehlville	Public	1008
MICDS	Private	472
Neosho	Public	1182
North Point	Public	1059
Parkview	Public	1037
Parkway Central	Public	937
Parkway South	Public	1124
Parkway West	Public	1044
Platte county	Public	996
Poplar Bluff	Public	1035
Raytown	Public	977
Republic	Public	1109
Riverview Gardens	Public	995
Rockwood Summit	Public	906
Rolla	Public	1067
Ruskin	Public	977
Smith Cotton	Public	1167
St Marys South Side	Private	306
St.Pius X (kc)	Private	326
Timberland	Public	1191
Washington	Public	952
Webb City	Public	1036
Webster Groves	Public	961
Willard	Public	1045
William Chrisman	Public	1068
Winnetonka	Public	939

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

shovel_option said:
Miller Career / Vashon is public (STL PHL)
Normandy is public (Ferg-Florissant district)
Soldan / Sumner is public (STL PHL)

thank you

cardsfan200306 · Dec 16, 2024

TadQueasy said:
I would think this job will draw some interest.

i would as well, i noticed they had girls volleyball in state title and then another team as well. seems like good crop of athletes or good culture there

shovel_option · Dec 16, 2024

Miller Career / Vashon is public (STL PHL)
Normandy is public (Ferg-Florissant district)
Soldan / Sumner is public (STL PHL)

TadQueasy · Dec 16, 2024

I would think this job will draw some interest.

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