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What a sh$(/ show. The Kylan Mabins story…

Dude, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. You can cherry pick examples all you want. And from everything I've read and heard about this family, it's all spot on. That said, you're either being obtuse or just extremely naive if you think one doesn't have to do with the other. And while their situation is obviously ridiculous and overtly for athletic purposes, it's pretty crazy to think situations like this have never occurred in SPS previously. Hide behind the "free move after 8th grade" garbage all they want too, still doesn't change the fact that this goes on in SPS all of the time. And I think those outside SPS that have seen it happen for years are getting a little satisfaction over all of this.

Here's a little fun piece of info for you, and no clue if it's true or not. I have heard the Mabins didn't even live in the SPS district when this young man attended Glendale. Now that's fun info. I'm sure had SPS known, they surely would've acted upon it, right???
Just an observation and question, if they didn't live in the district then why would SPS administration look the other way?
If they don't live within the district are you not pretty much letting that kid go to school free, because the other district is getting the tax money.
What would have been the benefit of the district administration looking the other way? Honest question.
 
Just an observation and question, if they didn't live in the district then why would SPS administration look the other way?
If they don't live within the district are you not pretty much letting that kid go to school free, because the other district is getting the tax money.
What would have been the benefit of the district administration looking the other way? Honest question.
Why do districts do it all the time? I’m assuming because he’s a super good athlete. All pure speculation. Maybe SPS didn’t know, but I find that hard to believe. Or maybe what I heard isn’t true, but that would be harder to believe honestly.
 
Dude, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. You can cherry pick examples all you want. And from everything I've read and heard about this family, it's all spot on. That said, you're either being obtuse or just extremely naive if you think one doesn't have to do with the other. And while their situation is obviously ridiculous and overtly for athletic purposes, it's pretty crazy to think situations like this have never occurred in SPS previously. Hide behind the "free move after 8th grade" garbage all they want too, still doesn't change the fact that this goes on in SPS all of the time. And I think those outside SPS that have seen it happen for years are getting a little satisfaction over all of this.

Here's a little fun piece of info for you, and no clue if it's true or not. I have heard the Mabins didn't even live in the SPS district when this young man attended Glendale. Now that's fun info. I'm sure had SPS known, they surely would've acted upon it, right???
The Mabins family lives in SPS district, within the Kickapoo boundary, although their residence is not too far from Glendale. Just a bit further away than Kickapoo school is. And they've been there since '16

A simple search of public records verifies what I said.
 
The Mabins family lives in SPS district, within the Kickapoo boundary, although their residence is not too far from Glendale. Just a bit further away than Kickapoo school is. And they've been there since '16

A simple search of public records verifies what I said.
Do you know this? Or just going off what the internet tells you? I really don't have firsthand knowledge, but I'd be super surprised if what I was told isn't true.
 
Do you know this? Or just going off what the internet tells you? I really don't have firsthand knowledge, but I'd be super surprised if what I was told isn't true.
Just go on the Greene County assessors website to the GIS map and type in a name and see what property they own. I did my own research and am not regurgitating rumors or what I heard on the internet.
 
Just go on the Greene County assessors website to the GIS map and type in a name and see what property they own. I did my own research and am not regurgitating rumors or what I heard on the internet.
To be fair it wasn't a rumor or anything I heard on the internet. But like I said, I don't have first hand knowledge either. Assume it's quite possible they could own multiple properties too.
 
To be fair it wasn't a rumor or anything I heard on the internet. But like I said, I don't have first hand knowledge either. Assume it's quite possible they could own multiple properties too.
That's the only property listed under their name, and its a pretty high end property so likely not a rental
 
Seems like the check the box will go away soon, so many are now getting overturned on appeals.

Soon it will be the wild wild west of transfers, and Schools will no longer be able to hold anybody accountable. Don't like just move then scream and yell.
Yep. It’s over now. It’ll be like Arkansas. May the biggest check win.
 
Dude, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. You can cherry pick examples all you want. And from everything I've read and heard about this family, it's all spot on. That said, you're either being obtuse or just extremely naive if you think one doesn't have to do with the other. And while their situation is obviously ridiculous and overtly for athletic purposes, it's pretty crazy to think situations like this have never occurred in SPS previously. Hide behind the "free move after 8th grade" garbage all they want too, still doesn't change the fact that this goes on in SPS all of the time. And I think those outside SPS that have seen it happen for years are getting a little satisfaction over all of this.

Here's a little fun piece of info for you, and no clue if it's true or not. I have heard the Mabins didn't even live in the SPS district when this young man attended Glendale. Now that's fun info. I'm sure had SPS known, they surely would've acted upon it, right???
Oh—I agree. I’m all for kids transferring and playing immediately, regardless of the reason. A coach can change districts for a better opportunity without having to sit a year. Why are we holding kids to a standard we don’t hold adults? It’s ridiculous.
 
Oh—I agree. I’m all for kids transferring and playing immediately, regardless of the reason. A coach can change districts for a better opportunity without having to sit a year. Why are we holding kids to a standard we don’t hold adults? It’s ridiculous.

What’s even more fun is if youre a “coach” you can take your kid out of a bad situation and into any situation that will have you — provided you’re willing to take a glorified babysitting job and sit on or near the bench.

Giving a “coach” a de facto free pass despite meeting both the standard for undue influence and moving for athletic reasons all at the same time.
 
I could see the Mauks ending up at Catholic and taking any decent player Glendale might have in the future.

Like I said elsewhere, this nonsense will only lead to Glendale football returning to what they were (for the most part) between '97-'14.

The Mabins should've just moved and ended all this crap.
 
Just go on the Greene County assessors website to the GIS map and type in a name and see what property they own. I did my own research and am not regurgitating rumors or what I heard on the internet.
You happen to check Christian county?
 
I could see the Mauks ending up at Catholic and taking any decent player Glendale might have in the future.

Like I said elsewhere, this nonsense will only lead to Glendale football returning to what they were (for the most part) between '97-'14.

The Mabins should've just moved and ended all this crap.
Think Catholic would want to put up with their circus? Hard for me to see Jay Osborne and Mike Mauk co-existing, but I could be way off.
 
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Oh—I agree. I’m all for kids transferring and playing immediately, regardless of the reason. A coach can change districts for a better opportunity without having to sit a year. Why are we holding kids to a standard we don’t hold adults? It’s ridiculous.
Coaches can also be fired. Kids can not.
 
Oh—I agree. I’m all for kids transferring and playing immediately, regardless of the reason. A coach can change districts for a better opportunity without having to sit a year. Why are we holding kids to a standard we don’t hold adults? It’s ridiculous.
A coach changing jobs is a lot different that a kid changing where he goes to school. Lets not forget this is HIGH SCHOOL. These guys are not free agents.
 
I think the full family move rule is fair. If you are that dedicated to high school sports that you are willing to sell your house and move your entire family then so be it. I don't think 1 parents taking 1 kid and moving to an apartment is enough.
 
You happen to check Christian county?
I did, nothing under their name.

A review of Case Net shows that the father did list a Nixa address in 2016, but prior to that all entries show a Springfield address for him. There hasn't been anything since 2016 on there with his name.

The address that shows up on the one more recent entry on case net for the wife at least is the same one I found when I searched the Greene County assessor's website.

So at one time it appears they did live in Nixa, but as of sometime in '16 or '17 they live in a house in Poo district, and it's where they reside now. Kylan's injunction vs MSHSAA is on case net under his name and he lists the same address in the Poo district.
 
I did, nothing under their name.

A review of Case Net shows that the father did list a Nixa address in 2016, but prior to that all entries show a Springfield address for him. There hasn't been anything since 2016 on there with his name.

The address that shows up on the one more recent entry on case net for the wife at least is the same one I found when I searched the Greene County assessor's website.

So at one time it appears they did live in Nixa, but as of sometime in '16 or '17 they live in a house in Poo district, and it's where they reside now. Kylan's injunction vs MSHSAA is on case net under his name and he lists the same address in the Poo district.
Correct...except it was up until 2020 or 2021. It was Nixa address but not in Nixa school district. Older brother ran track at the Christian county school in JH.
 
Oh—I agree. I’m all for kids transferring and playing immediately, regardless of the reason. A coach can change districts for a better opportunity without having to sit a year. Why are we holding kids to a standard we don’t hold adults? It’s ridiculous.
The whole family moves, then play right away. Too much shady stuff going on these days in private and public schools in all sports. Glad I am out of that area in these times. One question. Isn't Springfield an open enrollment district?
 
Interesting. I do note that the "Nixa" house was last sold right around the same time that their Poo house was last sold. This would indicate that they sold the "Nixa" house to move into the poo one, but who the hell knows.

The older brother is 8 yrs older than Kylan, so he would have graduated in 2016 or so, right around the time they were making the move from Ozark district to Poo.

How do you know they lived there until '20 or '21? Everything I've seen in public records indicates that they moved in 2016
 
Interesting. I do note that the "Nixa" house was last sold right around the same time that their Poo house was last sold. This would indicate that they sold the "Nixa" house to move into the poo one, but who the hell knows.

The older brother is 8 yrs older than Kylan, so he would have graduated in 2016 or so, right around the time they were making the move from Ozark district to Poo.

How do you know they lived there until '20 or '21? Everything I've seen in public records indicates that they moved in 2016
Their neighbor...but could be wrong about the year.
 
Their neighbor...but could be wrong about the year.
Yeah that just sounds like unsubstantiated gossip to me.

It makes sense that they made the move in '16. The older son graduated in 2015 from Ozark (I looked it up) and they then moved the following year to their current address in Poo district, based on the evidence I'm seeing.

It appears that they had done everything right, up until this fiasco, and I'm not even saying they they are wrong in this situation, but at the very least it's contentious.

Like someone said, this would have been a lot easier if they had just moved into the Glendale district.
 
Probably wouldn't if you knew where it came from. I'm not willing to disclose that, so I get the skepticism. Totally respect it.
Yeah I'm not even saying I'm right either, I'm just going by the evidence I've found. I just find it far fetched that they owned a house, sold it in 2016, and still lived in it when they bought another house that same year in Poo district. These are not cheap houses we are talking about either.

I moved a lot and bought houses each time, but I made a point to buy houses that I could later rent out, which I have done. I still own all but one house I've lived in, but can't do that with houses that are in the 300k-400k and up range.
 
A coach changing jobs is a lot different that a kid changing where he goes to school. Lets not forget this is HIGH SCHOOL. These guys are not free agents.
BS. A family should be able to do what they think is best for their kid. Just like a coach, or teacher, or administrator, moves for what’s best for his family. If he okayed trombone and wanted to go to a better school for band no one would care.
 
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