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Shot Clock

Why would anyone drop because there is not a shot clock> They are playing almost the entire season with out it. Many if not Most will not have a shot clock game all season
 
The $8000 is you have a system that is already compatible to add the shot clock. If not, the cost will be quite a bit more. What still gets me is that this is even a discussion after it was voted down by a good margin.
MSHSAA doesn’t care what the members think. It was very obvious after the area meetings that they are going to institute the shot clock whether it is wanted or not. They are under a lot of pressure from the coaches association to do so. Not sure why they would side with them over the members, but they have.
 
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MSHSAA doesn’t care what the members think. It was very obvious after the area meetings that they are going to institute the shot clock whether it is wanted or not. They are under a lot of pressure from the coaches association to do so. Not sure why they would side with them over the members, but they have.
Good.
 
Whether its this question or another, why would it be "GOOD" to not care what the majority of members think?
 
I didn’t say you shouldn’t care. But so what? It’s good for the game. The members are often horrifically wrong.
It won’t be so good for the game when the schools don’t have someone to operate it properly and the officials don’t know how to call it properly.
 
Has anyone heard about what tournaments/shootouts will have a shot clock?
I've heard the Carthage Tournament is a NO.
Not sure why though. Maybe they just don't want to worry about the headache of buying/installing/training for a 3 day tourney??
 
SO who decides if you can use a shot Clock or not? Doesnt this have to be fully approved by MSHSAA? Like, it seems some events and schools are picking and choosing whwtwher it will be used or not. I am in favor of a shot clock, but until it becomes sanctioned why are we even using them.
 
only at tournaments and shootouts and its up to the host. Now, from what I have seen, hosts, are asking teams that are participating if they want it or not...
 
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Obviously many of you have not been at small schools where the talent level is very low. Iowa has had several girls teams forfeit the season because they couldn't get girls out. I had a team of six girls. The shot clock would have made it even harder on them.
 
How does a shot clock make it harder on a small team? Not following that logic.
 
Guidelines from MSHSAA said it could only be used if all participating teams in a tournament agreed to it.
Have a feeling that the Blue and Gold and the Pink and White will I guess be a NO, bc of just the amount of teams that would have to agree to it, but could be completely wrong.
 
From day 1 of the Troy Tournament this evening - directly supervised the table for 2 games while observing 3 others indirectly via youtube - unofficial count of 2 shot clock violations in the five games with no major issues.

Key ingredients

1) your system has a recall feature
2) someone who can concentrate from start to finish and has a clue about basketball

If those are true you should have zero issues
 
So maybe a half dozen shot clock violations throughout the week on the boys side during the Troy Tournament.

But its not about violations its about increasing possessions, which it did dramatically and the points per game followed suit as well. 5 tournament scoring records were broke or tied, 3 being 45-50 years old.

Very few if any major issues. I’d call it a success and there should be no reason not to have it full time next year.

Bottom line is it’s good for the game.
 
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So maybe a half dozen shot clock violations throughout the week on the boys side during the Troy Tournament.

But its not about violations its about increasing possessions, which it did dramatically and the points per game followed suit as well. 5 tournament scoring records were broke or tied, 3 being 45-50 years old.

Very few if any major issues. I’d call it a success and there should be no reason not to have it full time next year.

Bottom line is it’s good for the game.

Why is increasing the number of possessions good for the game. If my team enters the fourth quarter with an 8-point lead, for instance, I want them to eat as much clock as possible and slow the game down.
 
Why is increasing the number of possessions good for the game. If my team enters the fourth quarter with an 8-point lead, for instance, I want them to eat as much clock as possible and slow the game down.
As a fan, I want to see more offensive possessions. People hate soccer because you play for hours and there's one score. Fans like offense. Shot clock forces pace and in theory grows the game.

As a coach, I want to be able to control tempo in any manner I see fit to do so.

I get both sides.
 
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Why is increasing the number of possessions good for the game. If my team enters the fourth quarter with an 8-point lead, for instance, I want them to eat as much clock as possible and slow the game down.
Its good for the team that is down and needs more possessions to come back and win.
 
I witnessed a game over the weekend. Team up 11 with 3:30 left. Tried to pull ball back out and hold it.. Ended up losing the game. It works both ways I guess,
 
From day 1 of the Troy Tournament this evening - directly supervised the table for 2 games while observing 3 others indirectly via youtube - unofficial count of 2 shot clock violations in the five games with no major issues.

Key ingredients

1) your system has a recall feature
2) someone who can concentrate from start to finish and has a clue about basketball

If those are true you should have zero issues
Could someone run the scoreboard/clock and the shot clock at the same time if they were pretty good? Also, does the shot clock automatically pause when the game clock is stopped, or does the shot clock operator have to stop it?
 
Could someone run the scoreboard/clock and the shot clock at the same time if they were pretty good? Also, does the shot clock automatically pause when the game clock is stopped, or does the shot clock operator have to stop it?
1) I'm not saying its impossible, but in practicality no. It is also specifically stated in MSHSAA shot clock guidelines that it must be a separate person.

2) It would have to depend on the setup - specifically on the (ubiquitous) Daktronics 5000 - that is one of the settings on the console. It makes no sense not to set it up that way. In practice - you only turn on/off the shot clock with the switch before game/halftime/turbo clock. Otherwise you use the reset button to pause and hold the shot clock until it is time to run.
 
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