Lebanon, Camdenton, Waynesville, Rolla
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RHS ATHLETICS: Rolla gets two conference invitations; rejects one
Rolla High School, possibly looking for a new athletic conference after the current school year, was invited to join two different conferences late last week. One of those invitationals has
Waynesville has been on the rise since I joined MoSports in 2009.
No they haven’t. (I know you’re being a smart alleck lol)
After Vernon left/retired, they were terrible.
Drehle didn’t do jack there, whoever was after him didn’t do anything, but the current coach is the best shot they’ve got at reviving the program.
All accurate statements. Help me out with the coach there now. I know they hired White, but he left like a couple weeks later (disaster averted, btw...that guy, sheesh). The current coach was head football coach and AD at like Richmond? But wasn't he teaching at Waynesville already??? Like he didn't leave Richmond for the Waynesville football job? I remember it being something odd at the time.
Barkley. He went 44-12 in 5 years as the head man in Lexington before getting out of coaching but staying on as the AD for a few years before moving to Waynesville.
Before Lexington he was an Asst at Odessa and Chrisman.
Played college ball at Garden City CC and Arkansas Tech. I think he was a QB. Can’t remember for sure.
Lexington, that was it! Thanks. I knew it was KC around the river somewhere. He worked with a buddy of mine at Odessa.
How long was he at Waynesville teaching? I'm just curious how long he was out of football. Kind of an interesting story really. He wasn't on the football staff at Waynesville, right?
I chatted with him a few times, probably 4-5 years ago when he was still the AD at Lexington.
Idk if he was already on staff as a coach at Waynesville or not. If he wasn’t, he would have been out of football for 3-4 years I believe. Maybe 5 at the most.
It's interesting to me. It's almost like the timing of it forced them into going this route. And if he really was just teaching and not coaching, what a safety net to have. And they're pretty fortunate he wanted it. That program has lacked focus and consistency since Vernon retired. He and Bob Shore went out around the same time. The Lakers kept it rolling and Waynesville just went off the rails. They've always seem to have athletes. Someone like this could make a huge difference.
I agree that Lebanon makes sense but would throw the balance off as an add with just Kickapoo and Glendale. Waynesville does not fit and neither did Rolla or Camdenton. 6 and 6 for football seems like a better number to me than 7. I will say having just one outlier in Waynesville is significantly more palatable than 3. I also don’t see a need for divisions in baseball and basketball, I’m not familiar enough with the other sports scheduling models to have an opinion there.
We’ll see what kind of schedule they get dealt.
Moving to a “super conference” on year 2 of a rebuild will definitely be a challenge.
That explains why Camdenton didn't come to the COC. But why didn't Lebanon stick with Camdenton and move to the CMAC?
A challenge for sure. No more Parkview, Hillcrest, or Central...which have accounted for all five of their wins the last two seasons. Lower levels don't look great either, at least the HS lower levels. Then again Glendale, Neosho, Willard, and Ozark will all be winnable probably. So a lot will depend on that schedule.
CMAC was only going to add one team is what I was told. Not sure how accurate that is/was. If you're Leb, this COC is the right move. Honestly, it would've been the right move for all of them. And I honestly think all of them would've done it if not for the Will Christian clause. Here's what I do know, two of the four made the move anyway. One (Camdenton) would've. Rolla I'm unsure about.
The previous century? I'm not even sure Camdenton was in the OC in 1999.
Bottom line, the OC disbanded. The COC is going strong. It's really hard to make the argument a league was legitimate if nobody even wants to keep it alive.
Last ten years of COC football
2022 Class 5 semifinals — Carthage
2021 Class 5 state champion — Webb City
2020 Class 5 semifinals — Webb City
2019 Class 6 runner-up — Joplin
2019 Class 5 state champion — Carthage
2019 Class 4 state champion — Webb City
2018 Class 6 semifinals — Joplin
2018 Class 5 semifinals — Carthage
2018 Class 4 semifinals — Webb City
2017 Class 5 semifinals — Carthage
2017 Class 4 runner-up — Webb City
2015 Class 5 semifinals — Carthage
2014 Class 4 runner-up — Webb City
2014 Class 5 runner-up — Nixa
2014 Class 4 state champion — Webb City
2013 Class 4 state champion — Webb City
2012 Class 5 runner-up — Ozark
2012 Class 4 state champion — Webb City
Playoff games between the two leagues in past ten years.
COC 7, OC 0
2022 Carthage 35, Lebanon 14
2021 Webb City 35, Lebanon 13
2020 Webb City 42, Lebanon 14
2019 Carthage 64, Glendale 34
2019 Webb City 62, Camdenton 34
2018 Carthage 43, Lebanon 8
2018 Webb City28, Camdenton 27
Everyone that has been around schools or athletics in this area knows Coach Christian is one of the most respected, well liked men out there.
When it comes down to it The COC only really cared about getting Lebanon. If the others would come great, but I don't think any of those 4 get an invite if it wasn't for Lebanon.
It appears that Camdenton didn't want to play in a tougher conference.
Lebanon isn't a Central Missouri school. It's a pure southwest Missouri town that is geared towards Springfield.
CMAC had scheduling room for 2 easily. They sent out invites to all 4 schools though. Rolla declined the invite even before they let the COC invite expire. Camdenton probably misses playing Helias all the time though breaking up them from Lebanon is a loss in itself. Rolla I would believe will go to Four Rivers or try the independent route for a couple of years. My guess is Rolla goes to Four Rivers
No matter how many threads you put it in, it's still false.
Do you get paid for every post you make about how respected Will Christian is?
Several ways to break this that make a lot more sense for the western schools than if all 4 northern schools came.
Enrollment
Webb would probably prefer to be with the large schools so a “swap” of Webb City and Waynesville probably works here if so desired. Does leave Neosho on an island if you do that, but they may be fine with it for the winnable slate.
Competitive
Carthage probably belongs with the “blue” but just went by this season’s record for quickness
Geography
Republic and Willard draw a bit of the short end here but this is their district alignment in a lot of years.
Enrollment
| Large | Small |
| Joplin | Neosho |
| Kickapoo | Republic |
| Nixa | Lebanon |
| Ozark | Glendale |
| Waynesville | Willard |
| Carthage | Webb City |
Competitive
| Blue | White |
| Nixa | Carthage |
| Kickapoo | Willard |
| Lebanon | Glendale |
| Webb City | Ozark |
| Republic | Neosho |
| Joplin | Waynesville |
Geography
| West | East |
| Carthage | Glendale |
| Joplin | Kickapoo |
| Neosho | Lebanon |
| Republic | Nixa |
| Webb City | Ozark |
| Willard | Waynesville |
Looks like someone is a little salty about being wrong so much in this entire process...I will tread lightly from now on.
Because Webb definitely doesn't have state titles and final four appearances in sports other than football...
Again, show me how I was wrong. Get off Coach Christian's chain crew long enough to explain. I was wrong about the SPS split, and explained why I was wrong and what happened. Everything else has been accurate.
Two weeks ago you could speculate that, but it seems clear now that the OMC isn't going to accept large schools unless your name is Branson. Some of the OMC schools were furious at the prospect of adding Willard to that league.
My understanding though is that they plan to come up with two 6 team divisions NOT based upon geography , success, or enrollment size. As in, two fairly equal divisions amongst all aspects considered. Going to be interesting to see what is done.
WHOA HOOOOO!!! BOSKO LIKEY!!! My heart however does NOT likey the salt. As my doctor likes to tell me
Don’t hold your breath. Washington wants back in and Cuba wants in as well. Would to a big/small split.
Yeah I don't understand what Willard and Neosho were voting on if not an invitation. Confusion.
This is correct. But wouldn't you think "fair" would include all schools being represented in the process?
No, I get that. But there aren't any "bigs". If Rolla and Washington get added, that's a total of four "bigs". I mean, I guess that's possible. Big...Rolla, Washington, Union, Pacific. Small...Owensville, St Clair, Sullivan, St James, Cuba, Hermann, New Haven...It's not like any of the smalls are anywhere close to Rolla or Washington. Owensville, St Clair and Sully are all around 550. Less than half the size.
Josh Scott on the JOCK this morning. Clears some things up about Parkview and OMC. Bet they are in two years and wouldn't surprise me if Central is as well IMO.
