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What is the school in Missouri, that no matter who the coach was would still struggle to win games?
This, IMO, goes well beyond wins and losses. School support, facilities, parental support, etc should all play a role. There are many places across the state where its always going to be difficult to win consistently, or at all.
 
Poplar Bluff always seems to be a hard place to win. There may be some blind squirrel funding an acorn season here and there but we're lucky to go even in a season. Doesn't do us any favors when we're going to be districted with Jackson for the foreseeable future and with Eckley there they'll be set for as long as he wants to stay so even on a good year Bluff would be at best district runner up. Also putting a schedule together is a nightmare with not a lot of St. Louis area schools wanting to make the trip down U.S. 67 or southwest Missouri schools wanting to come across U.S. 60 and if they do the farthest most are willing to travel is Farmington down 67 and West Plains.
 
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What is the school in Missouri, that no matter who the coach was would still struggle to win games?

For who knows what reason, but...

Springfield Central.. (Someone mentioned the inflated # of their enrollment...for some reason--kids that would never play.)
St. Joe Central (always confounds me how bad they are and shouldn't be.)
Northeast High School in KC. Great looking facility and building, but just so many issues.
Central Kansas City - See NE.
SE KC
East KC
Ruskin -- had some good football teams 35 years ago.
Truman (nice stadium)
 
Every school can turn the corner, but some have such an embedded culu
For who knows what reason, but...

Springfield Central.. (Someone mentioned the inflated # of their enrollment...for some reason--kids that would never play.)
St. Joe Central (always confounds me how bad they are and shouldn't be.)
Northeast High School in KC. Great looking facility and building, but just so many issues.
Central Kansas City - See NE.
SE KC
East KC
Ruskin -- had some good football teams 35 years ago.
Truman (nice stadium)
Agreed all the way around. SJC is the most puzzling one to me as well. Kind of wonder if talent "transfers" to relatives addresses on Hwy 92?
Ruskin is so bad always and it doesn't make sense. They are sandwiched between Grandview and Ray South. Same exact demographics, yet they never win. Kind of wonder same is happening there with 8th graders moving next door?
Looks like KC is going to be consolidating high schools in the next 5 years. Lost 1/2 their enrollment over the last decade.
 
I know of some, either being there or playing against. Some schools may have a flash but there are ones that have been down for a while.
 
Odessa ..... before Coach Thomas they went through a coach about every 2 years
 
The bed must have cooled each year during the playoffs
They were an absolute powerhouse in the 1980s. Still remember that COOOOOLD day at Arrowhead in 1986 when they and Camdenton (the Webb City of that era) had to settle for a 20-all tie in the C4 title game.
 
Agape Academy

A school for unmotivated boys

Sexual abuse charges pending


No thank you,
Wow this is a mess.

STOCKTON, Mo. (AP) — A southwest Missouri prosecutor said Tuesday he has charged five employees of a private Christian boarding school with abusing students — far fewer than the number of charges recommended by state investigators.

The five employees of the Agape Boarding School near Stockton were charged with a total of 13 third-degree felony assault counts, Cedar County Prosecuting Attorney Ty Gaither said.

The charges come after the Missouri State Highway Patrol investigated allegations of abuse at the school.

Based on that investigation, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt recommended prosecuting 22 employees with 65 counts on behalf of 36 victims, including felonies for abuse of a child and tampering with a victim, and misdemeanors for endangering the welfare of a child and failure to report child abuse.

After Gaither said last week that he planned to charge far fewer employees than recommended, Schmitt asked Gov. Mike Parson to remove his office from the investigation because he didn’t believe Gaither intended to “seek justice” for all the victims.




Gaither said this office believed “these to be the appropriate charges under the fact of the investigation,” The Kansas City Star reported.

Although Gaither asked for the attorney general’s assistance in the case, Missouri law gives county prosecutors sole authority in deciding what charges are filed.

A Missouri law passed in 1982 exempted religious residential care facilities from state licensure requirements. After the allegations of abuse at Agape arose last year, the Legislature passed a law that gave the state greater oversight of unlicensed residential care facilities for children.

“It’s unacceptable,” said Brett Harper, of Oregon, who attended Agape from 1999 to 2003 and has pushed for three years for an investigation into abuse at the school.

“It’s one third of the people who should be charged and he lowered the charges,” Harper said Tuesday. “Nobody would call that justice.”

The Star reported that two former students contacted the FBI last week and were told the agency’s office was looking into the Agape case. An FBI spokesman in Kansas City did not confirm or deny an investigation.

According to online court records, the probable cause statements describing the alleged offenses will be kept confidential to protect victims’ rights.




Two of those charged are former students who became Agape employees: medical director, Scott L. Dumar, and Seth Duncan, the son-in-law of David Smock, a Stockton doctor who for years has provided medical care for Agape students. The others charged are Christopher R. McElroy, Everett L. Graves and Trent E. Hartman.

An investigation into the school began after The Star reported on the abuse allegations last year. Since then, former students testified at legislative hearings that they tried to report the abuse at Agape and the now-closed Circle of Hope Girls Ranch for years, but that Cedar County authorities and other officials did not respond to the complaints.

Circle of Hope Girls Ranch near Humansville was closed last year after authorities removed about 25 students amid an investigation into abuse and neglect allegations.

The owners, Boyd and Stephanie Householder, were charged in March and await trial on 100 criminal counts — all but one are felonies — including statutory rape, sodomy and physical abuse and neglect. Both have pleaded not guilty and were released in July on $10,000 bond pending trial.
 
Wow this is a mess.

STOCKTON, Mo. (AP) — A southwest Missouri prosecutor said Tuesday he has charged five employees of a private Christian boarding school with abusing students — far fewer than the number of charges recommended by state investigators.

The five employees of the Agape Boarding School near Stockton were charged with a total of 13 third-degree felony assault counts, Cedar County Prosecuting Attorney Ty Gaither said.

The charges come after the Missouri State Highway Patrol investigated allegations of abuse at the school.

Based on that investigation, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt recommended prosecuting 22 employees with 65 counts on behalf of 36 victims, including felonies for abuse of a child and tampering with a victim, and misdemeanors for endangering the welfare of a child and failure to report child abuse.

After Gaither said last week that he planned to charge far fewer employees than recommended, Schmitt asked Gov. Mike Parson to remove his office from the investigation because he didn’t believe Gaither intended to “seek justice” for all the victims.




Gaither said this office believed “these to be the appropriate charges under the fact of the investigation,” The Kansas City Star reported.

Although Gaither asked for the attorney general’s assistance in the case, Missouri law gives county prosecutors sole authority in deciding what charges are filed.

A Missouri law passed in 1982 exempted religious residential care facilities from state licensure requirements. After the allegations of abuse at Agape arose last year, the Legislature passed a law that gave the state greater oversight of unlicensed residential care facilities for children.

“It’s unacceptable,” said Brett Harper, of Oregon, who attended Agape from 1999 to 2003 and has pushed for three years for an investigation into abuse at the school.

“It’s one third of the people who should be charged and he lowered the charges,” Harper said Tuesday. “Nobody would call that justice.”

The Star reported that two former students contacted the FBI last week and were told the agency’s office was looking into the Agape case. An FBI spokesman in Kansas City did not confirm or deny an investigation.

According to online court records, the probable cause statements describing the alleged offenses will be kept confidential to protect victims’ rights.




Two of those charged are former students who became Agape employees: medical director, Scott L. Dumar, and Seth Duncan, the son-in-law of David Smock, a Stockton doctor who for years has provided medical care for Agape students. The others charged are Christopher R. McElroy, Everett L. Graves and Trent E. Hartman.

An investigation into the school began after The Star reported on the abuse allegations last year. Since then, former students testified at legislative hearings that they tried to report the abuse at Agape and the now-closed Circle of Hope Girls Ranch for years, but that Cedar County authorities and other officials did not respond to the complaints.

Circle of Hope Girls Ranch near Humansville was closed last year after authorities removed about 25 students amid an investigation into abuse and neglect allegations.

The owners, Boyd and Stephanie Householder, were charged in March and await trial on 100 criminal counts — all but one are felonies — including statutory rape, sodomy and physical abuse and neglect. Both have pleaded not guilty and were released in July on $10,000 bond pending trial.
This is one of the teams Central beat.
 
One reason for that only:

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Back in the day Marshall was a HOTBED of top notch HSFB.
I think this is reference to Coach Cecil Naylor days. Marshall was tough. Gave many teams trouble. Coach Naylor had a lot of success. Players like Jewel Stephenson, Tim Brown, Jim Heinzler were good ones. Along time ago but did happen.
 
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I would think any public school in STL would be a tough gig. Most of the talent already at Privates... If you develop talent, the recruiters will take it......
 
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For who knows what reason, but...

Springfield Central.. (Someone mentioned the inflated # of their enrollment...for some reason--kids that would never play.)
St. Joe Central (always confounds me how bad they are and shouldn't be.)
Northeast High School in KC. Great looking facility and building, but just so many issues.
Central Kansas City - See NE.
SE KC
East KC
Ruskin -- had some good football teams 35 years ago.
Truman (nice stadium)
once truman sent webb packing its been tough
Charlie works his tail off over there,
hope he gets some luck
 
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For who knows what reason, but...

Springfield Central.. (Someone mentioned the inflated # of their enrollment...for some reason--kids that would never play.)
St. Joe Central (always confounds me how bad they are and shouldn't be.)
Northeast High School in KC. Great looking facility and building, but just so many issues.
Central Kansas City - See NE.
SE KC
East KC
Ruskin -- had some good football teams 35 years ago.
Truman (nice stadium)
Still totally mystified how Hickman Mills, who was good in most all sports, adding to Ruskin didn't make them much better especially in FB.
 
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Still totally mystified how Hickman Mills, who was good in most all sports, adding to Ruskin didn't make them much better especially in FB.
Could be wrong...but they've lost enrollment heavily in the last 10 yrs or so. Meaning, what is there now isn't nearly what was at the two schools prior to the merger. Ray South, Grandview, and LSW have probably benefited from that. Area is pretty rough now. A lot of it looks like a place where people once lived, not where they currently live. Was at Paul's Drive-In not too long ago. Hadn't been in 20 years. Not that it was ever a great location, but man, my head was on a swivel the entire time. Couple that with literally being a couple strung out par 5s from the LS district, I can see why people wouldn't want to be there.
 
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Could be wrong...but they've lost enrollment heavily in the last 10 yrs or so. Meaning, what is there now isn't nearly what was at the two schools prior to the merger. Ray South, Grandview, and LSW have probably benefited from that. Area is pretty rough now. A lot of it looks like a place where people once lived, not where they currently live. Was at Paul's Drive-In not too long ago. Hadn't been in 20 years. Not that it was ever a great location, but man, my head was on a swivel the entire time. Couple that with literally being a couple strung out par 5s from the LS district, I can see why people wouldn't want to be there.
Sadly, Cerner is abandoning the Bannister project to let their people work remotely. That was supposed to revitalize Ruskin district. More bad luck.
 
Sadly, Cerner is abandoning the Bannister project to let their people work remotely. That was supposed to revitalize Ruskin district. More bad luck.
Man...What are they going to do with that space. Already had a pretty big building, right? I used to drive by it at least weekly.
 
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