Cardinal Ritter 0 - 7?

[deacon jones]

LOL it was sarcasm.... MSHSAA is going to do what they want and nobody can say anything. It is what it is.

No, they do what the member schools authorize them to do. They are the employees of the organizations, hired by the organization, and paid by the organization. The membership can change anything it wants to, including the autonomy by which the board of directors operates.
Don't get me wrong- I disagree with much of what they do, and sure as hell question their motives. But the membership can change anything it desires. Getting enough consensus on anything to do that is the tough part.

 

[Local Expert]

ARE YOU MAD!? I mean, if you do this, then we'll have athlete's wearing multi-colored, unattached sleeves!

Absolutely...16 slides dedicated to the use of illegal complementary and analogous colors on home and away jerseys and zero slides about
offensive pass interference...which..according to MSHSAA, doesn't' exist..

 

[Duck_walk]

Absolutely...16 slides dedicated to the use of illegal complementary and analogous colors on home and away jerseys and zero slides about
offensive pass interference...which..according to MSHSAA, doesn't' exist..

People will definitely start wearing sweat bands on their forearms and 13 inch towels with a logo on them. All hell will break loose.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Bosko is glad he sat this one out. Perhaps taking a short break from MoSports would benefit us all.

 

[Lobo243]

Since..MSHSAA is quickly realizing how complicated it is to enforce their
least complicated "POE", which is..you know...the whole "don't cheat" policy...
Can we forgo the yearly and increasingly tedious online rules review...
Or at least give the option to skip the rules and policy "POE" slides
in the presentation that may or may not be used or enforced?

 

[Scrags]

People will definitely start wearing sweat bands on their forearms and 13 inch towels with a logo on them. All hell will break loose.

I say bring back the big towels. I still remember a rainy playoff game in the early 90's, where the visiting team wore towels they stole from the Adam's Mark the team stayed at.

 

[bman_turbo2000]

Do you all know that MSHSAA has taken the wins away already.. website reflects CR foreits all games.

https://www.mshsaa.org/MySchool/Schedule.aspx?s=511&alg=19

 

[cmsupunk]

Do you all know that MSHSAA has taken the wins away already.. website reflects CR foreits all games.

https://www.mshsaa.org/MySchool/Schedule.aspx?s=511&alg=19

This just happened in the last couple hours.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

This just happened in the last couple hours.

will this equate to no playoff?

 

[kaching]

I did see that mshsaa has changed CR games to forfeit. All the teams that lost to them still have losses on their record. I assume those will change to wins? I notice one team in their district has less points than CR - doesn’t seem equitable... I don’t think CR should be allowed in the playoffs but we’ll see...

 

[cmsupunk]

will this equate to no playoff?

Unless then take them out of post season play... Everyone makes it to district playoffs.

 

[Arcola]

Do you all know that MSHSAA has taken the wins away already.. website reflects CR foreits all games.

https://www.mshsaa.org/MySchool/Schedule.aspx?s=511&alg=19

Very surprised that they did this.

 

[Missouri Kid]

I did see that mshsaa has changed CR games to forfeit. All the teams that lost to them still have losses on their record. I assume those will change to wins? I notice one team in their district has less points than CR - doesn’t seem equitable... I don’t think CR should be allowed in the playoffs but we’ll see...

So the question may turn on interpretation of what a "forfeit" represents.
Rules say that a team must schedule...5....games to be eligible for the playoffs. Does that imply that the game must be played? If so, does a forfeit amount to not playing the game. I can see lawyers arguing it both ways. The best thing the institution could do from a public relations standpoint is say, "we will play our last two games within the rules but we are not eligible for post season play due to our 7 forfeits."

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Bosko is glad he sat this one out. Perhaps taking a short break from MoSports would benefit us all.

 

[Ilovewatching]

Is this real?

If true, without the press, is the consequence the same?

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

I see CR is still in 7th place in the seeds. Won't have to face LN until the finals.

 

[Local Expert]

Poor Grandview...No Respect...

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Unless then take them out of post season play... Everyone makes it to district playoffs.

That’s what I mean

 

[bman_turbo2000]

It looks like they did half the updates. They updated CR's items but have yet to update the teams that they played. Updating both sides is required based upon how their system is set up at MSHSSA. Once they catch their error and fix it you will see as Helias 7-0 vs Helias 6-1.

 

[Lobo243]

How did the athletic director or other school administration allow a suspended athlete to participate... incompetence of the mshsaa rules or knowingly allowing it to happen?

 

[Lobo243]

The coaches and administrators think they are doing these kids a favor by patronizing them. When in fact they are crippling them for life.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

It looks like they did half the updates. They updated CR's items but have yet to update the teams that they played. Updating both sides is required based upon how their system is set up at MSHSSA. Once they catch their error and fix it you will see as Helias 7-0 vs Helias 6-1.

That will be a huge boost to Helias if they can pull out a win against Rock Bridge this week

 

[Pancho and Lefty]

How does a team have all of their wins forfeited but still aren't the lowest seed in their district? Would be kind of funny if they were the 8 seed and played LN in district game week 1.

 

[Gameday5013]

How does a team have all of their wins forfeited but still aren't the lowest seed in their district? Would be kind of funny if they were the 8 seed and played LN in district game week 1.

Strength of schedule is better.

 

[Rcarlisle314]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

 

[Cards1968]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

When all-star teams from the big city competing in a small school class get nabbed for cheating they have earned all that comes with it IMO.

 

[Arcola]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

Wouldn’t this have been avoided if adults were acting like adults in the first place?

 

[Scrags]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

No at the end of the day we are talking about a coach, AD, and school who choose to violate, or ignore clear violations. Using the innocence of the kids is just a cop out.

 

[RichardDingledine33]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

Lol what a joke of a comment. People are relieved that something was actually done for the constant cheating that happens. Those folks are catered to and finally it has bit them in the ass. If there is no post season ban there is something corrupt going on.... its not over yet!

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

What Ritter did was stupid, but it is ridiculous for people to take joy in this. If you are celebrating and anticipating punishment then you have some issues that need to be addressed. Also need to stop acting like this is the first time a school has been caught breaking rules and that this is some landmark case. Remember these are kids at the end of the day and it's high time adults starting acting like adults and not like petty teenagers. I swear some of the kids have more sense than the adults and we wonder why we have issues.

Stupid is not the correct word. Blatant would be better. Disregard to rules that are set forth for all schools to follow and they chose to cheat, manipulate and cover up the choice they made to win. To me, there is no joy in the outcome, but their actions are a slap in the face to all the football teams, players, coaches and schools. I do hope, for football sake, that they will be banned from post season play this year for their action.

 

[Rcarlisle314]

You don't know who knew what. ADs aren't aware of everything and the school admin may not have known either especially since the infraction occurred in a game played in Chicago that they may or may not have attended. They could have been lied to as well.

 

[BPcompete]

How does a team have all of their wins forfeited but still aren't the lowest seed in their district? Would be kind of funny if they were the 8 seed and played LN in district game week 1.

Because its extremely low rated teams in said district and the district standings also factor in strength of schedule. Ritter has played the most difficult schedule in all of Class 2

 

[Scrags]

You don't know who knew what. ADs aren't aware of everything and the school admin may not have known either especially since the infraction occurred in a game played in Chicago that they may or may not have attended. They could have been lied to as well.

You are telling me they did not send any administrators to the game in Chicago. Furthermore, you are suggesting an administrator at a school their size wouldn't be able to identify one of their top athletes OR a new kid? Come on pal.

 

[Arcola]

You don't know who knew what. ADs aren't aware of everything and the school admin may not have known either especially since the infraction occurred in a game played in Chicago that they may or may not have attended. They could have been lied to as well.

So did the kids on the team not know it was wrong?

 

[Rcarlisle314]

No petty adults are just in their feelings and have decided to take pleasure in teams they don't like being punished. At some point, you have to realize that is a game and when rural vs city and other beefs have gone a step too far. Totally understand being punished for wrongdoing but celebrating and anticipating it is a bad look.

Lol what a joke of a comment. People are relieved that something was actually done for the constant cheating that happens. Those folks are catered to and finally it has bit them in the ass. If there is no post season ban there is something corrupt going on.... its not over yet!

 

[Lobo243]

You don't know who knew what. ADs aren't aware of everything and the school admin may not have known either especially since the infraction occurred in a game played in Chicago that they may or may not have attended. They could have been lied to as well.

At a school the size of CR which is a relatively small high school... even if there wasn’t an administrator in attendance in Chicago... bad gas travels fast in a small school. It wouldn’t have taken 6 weeks for them to be made aware.

 

[Scrags]

Poor Grandview...No Respect...

There was time when a guy could hold someone up against the wall by their neck and demand respect. Unfortunately for the Grandview Eagles and their coach, those days are long gone...

 

[Veerman_12]

There was time when a guy could hold someone up against the wall by their neck and demand respect. Unfortunately for the Grandview Eagles and their coach, those days are long gone...

 

[Rcarlisle314]

If that many people knew what happened, it would not have taken until now for Ritter to get busted. STL coaching is small and there is a lot of animosity towards Ritter and other privates, so someone would have snitched them out earlier if this was widespread knowledge. I don't think this is the well-organized conspiracy some are making out to be. If it was, then it would have been thought out better and executed better.

 

[Veerman_12]

There was time when a guy could hold someone up against the wall by their neck and demand respect. Unfortunately for the Grandview Eagles and their coach, those days are long gone...