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I've said on here multiple times that Parents are a huge part of the problem and issue and that is often reflected in the student. And the issue is obviously complex and unique to each student, parent, teacher, school district and school within that district around the nation.

I think you are missing the crux of the issue that a lot of parents and the public have with the current teaching in some schools and in some districts. The issue is that a lot of schools and teachers now want to be in the value and ethics business....interjecting their own political bias, beliefs and view points into the curriculum for the greater good.

Even if that is not the Norm in most schools it happens enough and in enough communities that it upsets parents and causes a disruptions. And is a pox upon the profession and that view point of the profession is becoming the norm that teachers are more interested in being activist, spewing CRT, Climate Change, Capitalism is bad BS and other fringe stuff than actually educating kids on the core subjects.
you read too much fauxnews.

They play to folks like you.
 
I've said on here multiple times that Parents are a huge part of the problem and issue and that is often reflected in the student. And the issue is obviously complex and unique to each student, parent, teacher, school district and school within that district around the nation.

I think you are missing the crux of the issue that a lot of parents and the public have with the current teaching in some schools and in some districts. The issue is that a lot of schools and teachers now want to be in the value and ethics business....interjecting their own political bias, beliefs and view points into the curriculum for the greater good.

Even if that is not the Norm in most schools it happens enough and in enough communities that it upsets parents and causes a disruptions. And is a pox upon the profession and that view point of the profession is becoming the norm that teachers are more interested in being activist, spewing CRT, Climate Change, Capitalism is bad BS and other fringe stuff than actually educating kids on the core subjects.
Climate change is "fringe stuff ?" I guess that science is not "core stuff." Man do you have an agenda !
 
Climate change is "fringe stuff ?" I guess that science is not "core stuff." Man do you have an agenda !
Is psych care 'fringe stuff' or 'core stuff'?

I really need to stop reading his posts. Just a bunch of gobbledy gook from alt right nutjobs
 
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I've said on here multiple times that Parents are a huge part of the problem and issue and that is often reflected in the student. And the issue is obviously complex and unique to each student, parent, teacher, school district and school within that district around the nation.

I think you are missing the crux of the issue that a lot of parents and the public have with the current teaching in some schools and in some districts. The issue is that a lot of schools and teachers now want to be in the value and ethics business....interjecting their own political bias, beliefs and view points into the curriculum for the greater good.

Even if that is not the Norm in most schools it happens enough and in enough communities that it upsets parents and causes a disruptions. And is a pox upon the profession and that view point of the profession is becoming the norm that teachers are more interested in being activist, spewing CRT, Climate Change, Capitalism is bad BS and other fringe stuff than actually educating kids on the core subjects.

I thought that public schools were failing our children, but you say instead they are teaching an abstruse law school theory? That sounds pretty advanced to me! I know this isn’t exactly common knowledge, but CRT is a law school theory that has been around for a long, long time. In law schools. Where they teach many different law theories as academic knowledge to future lawyers, etc. It is not new. It is certainly not being taught in high schools. There are many problems in public schooling, CRT is not one of them. You’re barking up the wrong tree on that at least.
 
I thought that public schools were failing our children, but you say instead they are teaching an abstruse law school theory? That sounds pretty advanced to me! I know this isn’t exactly common knowledge, but CRT is a law school theory that has been around for a long, long time. In law schools. Where they teach many different law theories as academic knowledge to future lawyers, etc. It is not new. It is certainly not being taught in high schools. There are many problems in public schooling, CRT is not one of them. You’re barking up the wrong tree on that at least.
He literally only knows what his whackjob, anti-school media tells him.

Low information voter.
 
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I thought that public schools were failing our children,
It infuriates me every time I see that statement. I don't believe all or most of our public schools are failing to educate. I think the percentage of failing schools in MO is small. Many city schools and small, poor, rural schools perform poorly on standardized testing, but the vast majority of public schools are more than adequate academically. Most do a good job of teaching the entire spectrum of students.

I worked in 4 different school districts and only one was subpar academically, but it was the 10th smallest high school in MO and in one of the poorest districts in the state - poverty was generational and most kids lacked ambition in school. The other 3 schools provided a quality education. As a teacher, you just know when you work at a good school, and have the test scores to prove it. I believe those schools are the norm and not the exception!!

"Our failing schools" is a myth. You can cite our low ranking in the world on education as proof of failing but I'm confident the vast majority of our kids are receiving a quality education. Our failing schools are a social problem, not an educational problem.
 
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It infuriates me every time I see that statement. I don't believe all or most of our public schools are failing to educate. I think the percentage of failing schools in MO is small. Many city schools and small, poor, rural schools perform poorly on standardized testing, but the vast majority of public schools are more than adequate academically. Most do a good job of teaching the entire spectrum of students.

I worked in 4 different school districts and only one was subpar academically, but it was the 10th smallest high school in MO and in one of the poorest districts in the state - poverty was generational and most kids lacked ambition in school. The other 3 schools provided a quality education. As a teacher, you just know when you work at a good school, and have the test scores to prove it. I believe those schools are the norm and not the exception!!

"Our failing schools" is a myth. You can cite our low ranking in the world on education as proof of failing but I'm confident the vast majority of our kids are receiving a quality education. Our failing schools are a social problem, not an educational problem.

People also willfully refuse to take into account that when we compare the numbers of who the U.S. educates to who most other countries educate, we are comparing apples to sandwiches.
 
People also willfully refuse to take into account that when we compare the numbers of who the U.S. educates to who most other countries educate, we are comparing apples to sandwiches.
What the heck does that mean? The U.S. educates kids of school age everywhere I know of.
 
What the heck does that mean? The U.S. educates kids of school age everywhere I know of.
Yes, but other countries do not. We test all of them, no matter their disability. Other countries are not going to spend their time and money educating and testing a kid if they show signs the kid will never reach a certain level.
 
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People that think those test scores is the end all of measuring teachers and the educational system as a whole, really have NO CLUE
Agreed. It's like private and public small class athletics.

If i don't have to let captain emo and every IEP kid into my district it sure helps keep my numbers down to where i can win titles. Also don't hurt to be able to have a 50 mile school district.
 
Climate change is "fringe stuff ?" I guess that science is not "core stuff." Man do you have an agenda !
I never said Climate change wasn't happening clearly the data is real in that regard....but the way it is approached and taught is very divisive. I can promise you that the Milankovitch Theory is never even broached on this subject at the class room level and is often suppressed.
 
Is psych care 'fringe stuff' or 'core stuff'?

I really need to stop reading his posts. Just a bunch of gobbledy gook from alt right nutjobs
Some stuff taught is very fringe and often not based on data.....but all of science does that as well.
 
I thought that public schools were failing our children, but you say instead they are teaching an abstruse law school theory? That sounds pretty advanced to me! I know this isn’t exactly common knowledge, but CRT is a law school theory that has been around for a long, long time. In law schools. Where they teach many different law theories as academic knowledge to future lawyers, etc. It is not new. It is certainly not being taught in high schools. There are many problems in public schooling, CRT is not one of them. You’re barking up the wrong tree on that at least.
Most people understand that CRT has been corrupted from the original class text book definition......and I'm not saying it's wide spread. But the Perception is that CRT is spreading into the everyday classroom among the other things I pointed out. .that teachers are focused on outside issues as opposed to actual education.

The debate of are schools failing students is complex. I was pointing out that some teachers are not helping by focusing on issues that upset a large percentage of parents.
 
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Most people understand that CRT has been corrupted from the original class text book definition......and I'm not saying it's wide spread. But the Perception is that CRT is spreading into the everyday classroom among the other things I pointed out. .that teachers are focused on outside issues as opposed to actual education.

The debate of are schools failing students is complex. I was pointing out that some teachers are not helping by focusing on issues that upset a large percentage of parents.
Once again, a total load of crap !
 
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Most people understand that CRT has been corrupted from the original class text book definition......and I'm not saying it's wide spread. But the Perception is that CRT is spreading into the everyday classroom among the other things I pointed out. .that teachers are focused on outside issues as opposed to actual education.

The debate of are schools failing students is complex. I was pointing out that some teachers are not helping by focusing on issues that upset a large percentage of parents.
It's the perception because you borg get it drilled into your heads by your alt-right whackjob media.

and you keep on believing the crap they make up.

What public school in MO teaches CRT? Please back up your bs with evidence.
 
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It's the perception because you borg get it drilled into your heads by your alt-right whackjob media.

and you keep on believing the crap they make up.

What public school in MO teaches CRT? Please back up your bs with evidence.
No kidding..! CRT is high level stuff that is college level material. However our high level know it all thinks that it may permeate the public schools. Totally clueless !
 
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Today's repubs have to be the most gullible group of people to ever exist. See The Big Lie, voter fraud, Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, covid is fake, the vaccine doesn't work, global warming doesn't exist, on and on and on.............. if Fox and/or Trump said it, so it's a fact!! SMH I could have never imagined 10 years ago that a large segment of our population could be gullible enough to buy such a sack of BS that the Trump movement has sold them.
 
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Today's repubs have to be the most gullible group of people to ever exist. See The Big Lie, voter fraud, Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, covid is fake, the vaccine doesn't work, global warming doesn't exist, on and on and on.............. if Fox and/or Trump said it, so it's a fact!! SMH I could have never imagined 10 years ago that a large segment of our population could be gullible enough to buy such a sack of BS that the Trump movement has sold them.
I'm with you on that one...
 
It's the perception because you borg get it drilled into your heads by your alt-right whackjob media.

and you keep on believing the crap they make up.

What public school in MO teaches CRT? Please back up your bs with evidence.
Springfield public schools handed out a guideline that was CRT inspired, I held it in my own hands, got a copy from a Administrator friend of mine he wanted me to look it over. Does it say CRT across the front? Nope but it is pure CRT otherwise. SPS claimed it just teaches equity but that is not the case.

Do I think that Sparta, Fordland, Clever, Billings and other Rural schools are? No but if a school district is touting up that only using English is racist, or education being funded by property tax is racist...you have hit CRT territory.
 
No... That "perception" is false.
It might be false but clearly that is not the perception, all though I think the perception is over blown I do think there is a underlying current for a lot of younger teachers to be activists. Some of my teacher friends who have been at it a while tell me their is a Gulf in SPS in that regard big time between the younger and older teachers. They even suggested to me who they wanted me to vote for School Board wise and that has never been the case before to try and stop the creep as they called it away from the core curriculum to something else.
 
Today's repubs have to be the most gullible group of people to ever exist. See The Big Lie, voter fraud, Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, covid is fake, the vaccine doesn't work, global warming doesn't exist, on and on and on.............. if Fox and/or Trump said it, so it's a fact!! SMH I could have never imagined 10 years ago that a large segment of our population could be gullible enough to buy such a sack of BS that the Trump movement has sold them.
Your perception is the issue and how you present it. Most Rep. don't believe the Big lie from Trump but he was the guy so you back him and his idiotic statements because he is better than Biden.

And when the MSM aka Times Mag. actually admits that a Elitist group of Leftists did a shadow campaign and did some shifty stuff to hamper his re-election. Well Some people are going to perceive that fraud was involved... especially after the Bogus Steel Dossier and two weak sauce impeachments. That is understandable..that people would see the Dem's as 100% corrupt




And clearly you don't get the point of what Conservatives think of the Jan. 6th protest, most of it was peaceful and some of it was a riot with some knuckle heads who need punished, but that it wasn't a insurrection designed to overthrow the govt and it wasn't any worse than the summer of the BLM. IT was just pay back.

As far as the Vax goes people on both sides of the isle didn't take the vax for various reasons. A lot of conservatives refused out of pure Principle based on the Abortion cry my body my choice. They took a stand using that idea and belief, good for them. If they didn't want the vax they shouldn't have to get it. The more the radical left tried to force it the more resistance they got.

The climate change issue is very polarizing. There are a lot of moving parts, how much of climate change is man made? Some? All? None? Can anything be done about it without totally upending modern civilization? Do we have the ability to Power society with Green Energy? Why are we walking away from the one true Green Energy Nuclear?

Conservatives are about taking the slow approach and that Climate Change is happening some is man made, some natural and the answer is adaption. And that time and the advancement of technology in the future will eventually solve the problem but in the here and now drastic changes are not warranted.

Leftist are running around like chicken little, banning Plastic Straws, allowing children to sue the govt about Climate change, and believing the big lie that Solar and Wind can meet our energy needs. Or that Electric Cars are the Savior of the environment LOL. As they protest and close the one True Clean Energy Nuclear.....
 
blah blah blah ....CRT is a Fox hot button issue they can magnify and expound on purely to rile the white right!! Sieg Heil !!!

I can only think of 3 people out of all my friends, family, and acquaintances who have ever mentioned CTR, and all 3 are die hard Trumpers who believe every conspiracy and bull shit story that Trump and Fox News have ever came up with, and all 3 were convinced that every school in the country were teaching CRT..
 
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I got as far as"it was not an insurrection designed to over throw the government. If you still think they didn't go there thinking they could get the election overturned you are are not living in reality. They even thought Trump would march there with them!
 
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Me, my parents, my much older sisters, my kids….four generations of my family and none of us were ever in a classroom that taught us about the Tulsa massacre.

Thousands of black folks wiped out. Not a damn word about it. Like it never happened. That is what MG and his tribe prefer. White wash everything. The victors control history. We don’t want white kids to “feel bad” by understanding the past.

We don’t want people to know that Nixon started the drug war vs hippies and blacks as a political strategy. Too much guilt in knowing.
 
I got as far as"it was not an insurrection designed to over throw the government. If you still think they didn't go there thinking they could get the election overturned you are are not living in reality. They even thought Trump would march there with them!
The next sentence was that it was payback for the summer of BLM. That is ridiculous.
It sounds like Trump thought he was going with them.
 
Springfield public schools handed out a guideline that was CRT inspired, I held it in my own hands, got a copy from a Administrator friend of mine he wanted me to look it over. Does it say CRT across the front? Nope but it is pure CRT otherwise. SPS claimed it just teaches equity but that is not the case.

Do I think that Sparta, Fordland, Clever, Billings and other Rural schools are? No but if a school district is touting up that only using English is racist, or education being funded by property tax is racist...you have hit CRT territory.
So that's a "No school in MO teaches CRT"

BOOOOT
 
The next sentence was that it was payback for the summer of BLM. That is ridiculous.
It sounds like Trump thought he was going with them.
Yeah I saw that what Hutchinson said about the tussle in the limo has been backed up by a DC cop that was actually in the car. Trump actually told them he would be walking to the Capitol with them.
 
Yeah I saw that what Hutchinson said about the tussle in the limo has been backed up by a DC cop that was actually in the car. Trump actually told them he would be walking to the Capitol with them.
BUT SOMEONE SAID ANONYMOUSLY AND NOT UNDER OATH THAT IT WAS HOGWASH!!!!

I saw it on fox news.

100% true for sure.
 
The next sentence was that it was payback for the summer of BLM. That is ridiculous.
It sounds like Trump thought he was going with them.
I absolutely believe that Trump and his loyalists' attitude leading up to and on Jan 6 was "if they can do it, so can we". Violence was the intent. I do admire and respect the Capitol Police for not opening fire.
 
Me, my parents, my much older sisters, my kids….four generations of my family and none of us were ever in a classroom that taught us about the Tulsa massacre.

Thousands of black folks wiped out. Not a damn word about it. Like it never happened. That is what MG and his tribe prefer. White wash everything. The victors control history. We don’t want white kids to “feel bad” by understanding the past.

We don’t want people to know that Nixon started the drug war vs hippies and blacks as a political strategy. Too much guilt in knowing.
I have no problem with teaching kids about the Tulsa massacre or that up until the Civil rights laws and such that America did have Systemic Racist policies built in. Teaching history is one thing, trying to claim and blame people or one race for all the ills is another. And the constant attacking of white people who where not even alive and involved in that era does not heal wounds or bring people together it ends up dividing and creating hate. It's the approach and style that is being taken that is the issue.

And maybe you should read this book....about NIxon and his Civil Rights ideas...was Nixon a bigot? Sure most people from that generation was...but Nixon voted for and supported every Civil Rights Bill and was for AA and more funding for Blacks who did business.

Amazon product ASIN 0674006232
Or Look into Nixon and Whitney Youngs relationship.....https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/eulogy-delivered-burial-services-for-whitney-m-young-jr-lexington-kentucky
 
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