Lockwood Tournament Results sorry don't remember scores
Stockton beat Lamar in the Final
Weaubleau won 3rd big over Golden City
Pleasant Hope over Lockwood for 5th
Ash Grove over Jasper for 7th
THE Class 1 Hoops Thread 2018-19
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Lockwood Tournament Results sorry don't remember scores
Stockton beat Lamar in the Final
Weaubleau won 3rd big over Golden City
Pleasant Hope over Lockwood for 5th
Ash Grove over Jasper for 7th
Peter Quill
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Hard to say who is going to come out of SWMO right now. Seems that part of the SWMO teams are going South East this year when district time comes around. So with the changes in alignment it’s pretty open. If I had to pick who will come out of the quadrant it would probably be Lakeland.
The Grove is adjusting to the lack of depth that they’ve been accustomed to having the past 4 years but by the end of the year they will be a tough out. Still playing a really tough schedule this year so they’re going to take some losses.
They're young, but they have the IQ and composure of a much older team. They have some absolute knockdown shooters, and they play hard. They split with my class 4 team in two games this summer. They have the ability to be extremely impressive at times. Brock Wakefield may be a player of the year candidate in a year or two, and the Dinkins boy is a lethal shooter, too. Their bigs play smart and have athleticism that will be dangerous soon.
Bigger but slower than Dora, Smaller but better shooters than Eminence. Those will be great games. I hate that they got put in a different district than Eminence this year. Those were some of my favorite games to go to growing up. Bet I've been to 20 or 30 of them. It reminds me a lot of the UNC/Duke games. Doesn't really matter how good the teams are, the game will be competitive.
We will find out a lot more about North Andrew in their next two games. They play East Atchison Friday and then open conference play next Tursday against Worth County.
I still think Pattonsburg will win the West despite their big loss to Jefferson. I think the GRC West boys is down this year from previous years.
I still think Pattonsburg will win the West despite their big loss to Jefferson. I think the GRC West boys is down this year from previous years.
East Atchison would definitely be a good measuring stick for North Andrew. The big game in the area definitely is Jefferson v. Mound City on Friday night. From my perspective, Jefferson, Winston, and Mound City are on their own tier in the area...Wellington Napoleon I just don't know about, but suspect they are there.
We will have to see about Pattonsburg as well
Tonight’s a big night. Find out who the favorite will be in Class 1 as Jefferson travels to Mound City tonight.
Who is everyone going to pick?
Jefferson Program DNA: Structured and focused...desiring open three pointers. Tempo Control...they usually press the whole game and push the ball up, especially on makes. They are largely unflappable and stick to the plan. They won't make many mistakes or turnovers.
Mound City: Strong, Athletic, more liberty on offense, with more dynamic scorers. Length is also in their favor. Mound City may have cemented their place in the district championship last year with the win against Jefferson, but the program hasn't "arrived" yet. Coach isn't as seasoned (nor is anyone in the area). Word is that MC can be riled and emotionally charged at times. They have a couple of guards (1 soph, and 1 freshman) averaging over 20 points per game, and they are creators, not just benefactors of a system.
The game is at Mound City, and probably a full house for both the girls and boys game.
My pick: Mound City by single digits in a thriller.
I’m going Mound City. Getting healthy now after a couple injuries in the state title football game. MC beat them last year and returned almost everyone from the team that won the district. They know how to win over there. I’ve got Mound City by 10.
I think the style of play of both teams, there are really 3 scenarios...
Jefferson wins a gritty, systematic game by close margin
Mound City wins a close game
Mound City goes on full tilt and blows them out...(this being the least likely, but it could happen with their two guards)
Jefferson wins a gritty, systematic game by close margin
Mound City wins a close game
Mound City goes on full tilt and blows them out...(this being the least likely, but it could happen with their two guards)
I have a feeling it might be challenging..but I wonder if we can beat the stats off the old thread? https://ibb.co/pQtHSNZ
I have a feeling hoops tourney having a C2 team to look after may be a little harder to get there...will miss the SJC analysis.
I have a feeling hoops tourney having a C2 team to look after may be a little harder to get there...will miss the SJC analysis.
I will note I came across some more info on the top 10 as well. Wellington Napoleon won 70-66 to Concordia...so Concordia might be worthy of a top 10 look.
I also see via maxpreps that Wellington has Trey Shannon (I'm assuming coach's kid) is averaging 28.5 a game? Not too shabby. I believe they play in the I-70 conference tournament final tomorrow night. Looks like according to their roster they are all about the same size... 5'10-6'1 and two seniors are their heavy scorers so far.
I also see via maxpreps that Wellington has Trey Shannon (I'm assuming coach's kid) is averaging 28.5 a game? Not too shabby. I believe they play in the I-70 conference tournament final tomorrow night. Looks like according to their roster they are all about the same size... 5'10-6'1 and two seniors are their heavy scorers so far.
Also found a little highlight reel on Walnut Grove from the other night...Ryan Keith can play...and they are still chucking the threes like no other. http://www.maxpreps.com/video/watch.aspx?videoid=106675a8-baad-4a3d-b954-bcf2d25413ae
If you ever want to see (roughly) how teams records stack up across the state in one place...maxpreps is the way to go. I wish that more schools would post updates on there though!! http://www.maxpreps.com/division/mo...basketball-winter-18-19/standings-class-1.htm
Just click on the win loss in the second column to get it in order of win percentage
Just click on the win loss in the second column to get it in order of win percentage
even fewer teams post stats (which I understand) http://www.maxpreps.com/leaders/bas...ass-1/fzyDjb3GiUOFu33uhR8j-A/stat-leaders.htm
the way too early maxpreps rankings (and a lot of schools need their scores posted) ---must have at least 3 games to make the rankings
# School Ovr. Rating Str.
1 Dora 4-0 18.6 5.3
2 Lakeland (Deepwater) 4-0 17.0 1.3
3 Slater 4-0 16.0 1.3
4 Halfway 3-0 15.0 1.4
5 South Iron (Annapolis) 3-0 13.0 -2.7
6 Winston 6-0 12.9 -4.4
7 Delta 3-1 10.6 4.6
8 Meadville 4-1 10.6 0.8
9 Climax Springs 4-1 8.7 -0.9
10 Macks Creek 3-1 8.3 -0.2
11 St. Elizabeth 6-1 7.5 -3.8
12 Mercer 2-1 7.2 2.4
13 North Harrison (Eagleville) 2-1 6.7 3.2
14 Prairie Home 3-2 5.9 3.1
15 Stanberry 2-1 5.2 2.9
16 Risco 3-2 4.8 1.9
17 Miami (Amoret) 3-2 4.3 0.0
18 Wellsville-Middletown (Wellsville) 3-1 4.2 -4.9
19 Novinger 2-2 4.1 5.0
20 Concordia 2-1 3.8 -0.7
21 Keytesville 3-1 3.3 -4.7
22 Green City 4-2 2.9 -3.0
23 Glasgow 2-2 2.8 2.5
24 Bunker 2-1 2.7 -1.8
25 Pilot Grove 3-2 2.2 -1.6
# School Ovr. Rating Str.
1 Dora 4-0 18.6 5.3
2 Lakeland (Deepwater) 4-0 17.0 1.3
3 Slater 4-0 16.0 1.3
4 Halfway 3-0 15.0 1.4
5 South Iron (Annapolis) 3-0 13.0 -2.7
6 Winston 6-0 12.9 -4.4
7 Delta 3-1 10.6 4.6
8 Meadville 4-1 10.6 0.8
9 Climax Springs 4-1 8.7 -0.9
10 Macks Creek 3-1 8.3 -0.2
11 St. Elizabeth 6-1 7.5 -3.8
12 Mercer 2-1 7.2 2.4
13 North Harrison (Eagleville) 2-1 6.7 3.2
14 Prairie Home 3-2 5.9 3.1
15 Stanberry 2-1 5.2 2.9
16 Risco 3-2 4.8 1.9
17 Miami (Amoret) 3-2 4.3 0.0
18 Wellsville-Middletown (Wellsville) 3-1 4.2 -4.9
19 Novinger 2-2 4.1 5.0
20 Concordia 2-1 3.8 -0.7
21 Keytesville 3-1 3.3 -4.7
22 Green City 4-2 2.9 -3.0
23 Glasgow 2-2 2.8 2.5
24 Bunker 2-1 2.7 -1.8
25 Pilot Grove 3-2 2.2 -1.6
Here is the new MOBCA Poll:
Class 1
Team Record
1 Eminence 2-0
2 Dora 4-0
3 South Iron 3-0
4 Lakeland 4-0
5 St. Elizabeth 6-1
6 Slater 4-0
7 Halfway 3-0
8 Mound City 2-0
9 Linn County 2-0
10 Winston 6-0
Others receiving votes: Walnut Grove, La Plata, Jefferson, Risco, Meadville, Canton
Class 1
Team Record
1 Eminence 2-0
2 Dora 4-0
3 South Iron 3-0
4 Lakeland 4-0
5 St. Elizabeth 6-1
6 Slater 4-0
7 Halfway 3-0
8 Mound City 2-0
9 Linn County 2-0
10 Winston 6-0
Others receiving votes: Walnut Grove, La Plata, Jefferson, Risco, Meadville, Canton
After years of YOU DON'T KNOW ME harassing me about Max Preps, I started sending game scores in last year. I still don't send individual stats....too old school I guess. Coaches can go scout in person (or by HUDL, if you have it and a few friends) rather than surfing the net to get prepared. That's the problem with this "Millennial" generation (YDKM)....they worship Sheldon Cooper rather than Bobby Knight. (lol).
Mound City is at least 4-0, Jefferson is the same. I wish schools would post their stuff on Mshsaa like they are supposed to...and maxpreps would link up data.
Gregg Popovich was quoted recently as saying good basketball is gone...it's all down to who makes the most 3 pointers... “These days there’s such an emphasis on the three because it’s proven to be analytically correct,” Popovich offered with what appeared to be a sneer. “Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn’t, you win. You don’t even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don’t even care. That’s how much an impact the three-point shot has and it’s evidenced by how everybody plays.”
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/11/29/18118915/gregg-popovich-still-hates-three-pointers
The high level analytics must be practiced at Walnut Grove, Winston, and Jefferson.
You know those 3 coaches?....Meinders, Lewis and Jermain.....their hair is a lot grayer than when they started....well, Coach Jermain's would be if he still had any.
Analytics? analytics? (Colts Jim Mora imitation)..
Analytics? analytics? (Colts Jim Mora imitation)..
Do these coaches even pay attention? How is Jefferson not in the Top 10?
I think they win by about 6-8 tonight. The game I watched against Pattonsburg was a higher level defensively than what I have seen in the past.
Well-Nap will have a big test against KC Lutheran next week. They are another team that is getting no attention that should be.
I think they win by about 6-8 tonight. The game I watched against Pattonsburg was a higher level defensively than what I have seen in the past.
Well-Nap will have a big test against KC Lutheran next week. They are another team that is getting no attention that should be.
Final Scores:
East Atchison 62 North Andrew 57
Mound City 63 Jefferson 61
East Atchison 62 North Andrew 57
Mound City 63 Jefferson 61
Meanwhile Winston is 6-0 and just cruising along like they always do. Mound City is the real deal. Remember MC hasn’t had many practices yet and are still healing from football (or just fully healthy)
They are currently my favorite in NWMO. They are very good and tonight showed it. And they will get better, as stated above, when they get more practices in. I saw them this summer and they beat everyone they played at the camp I reffed at. So, I’m not surprised by the start.
Eminence lost their first game of the season to Ranked C3 Springfield Catholic 74-60. It was a 2 point game I believe after 3 quarters
Looks like maxpreps had it: http://www.maxpreps.com/games/baske...schoolid=bd8c2281-d7f0-4f9d-9a2c-af0457e5b1dd
Wellington Falls 54-45 to St. Paul Lutheran of Concordia. and 2-2 overall
Wellington Falls 54-45 to St. Paul Lutheran of Concordia. and 2-2 overall
Linn County played NW Mendon last night (no score found) and will play Meadville in a game tonight between contenders and rivals in NEMO.
It appears from scores entered in Mshsaa, we should be on the lookout for the Delta Bobcats who have knocked of SCC in Overtime and also a solid C2 Oak Ridge team. Maybe they are the #3 team in SEMO class 1? Not sure.
Stealing from the Poster who put in about the SEMO Christmas Tournament seeds:
1. Cape Central
2. Charleston
3. Jackson
4. Oran
5. Cape Notre Dame
6. Delta
7. Oak Ridge
8. Scott City
9. Chaffee
10. Scott County Central
11. Kelly
12. Woodland
13. Advance
14. Meadow Heights
15. Leopold
16. Bell City
I love this tournament based on all sizes of schools and 4 games. Oran (C2) looks to be very strong this year, with Delta being the top C1 school, followed by Oak Ridge (C2) and SCC down at 10.
1. Cape Central
2. Charleston
3. Jackson
4. Oran
5. Cape Notre Dame
6. Delta
7. Oak Ridge
8. Scott City
9. Chaffee
10. Scott County Central
11. Kelly
12. Woodland
13. Advance
14. Meadow Heights
15. Leopold
16. Bell City
I love this tournament based on all sizes of schools and 4 games. Oran (C2) looks to be very strong this year, with Delta being the top C1 school, followed by Oak Ridge (C2) and SCC down at 10.
I think Slater is my favorite for now in NEMO. Meadville, Northwestern, Linn County, La Plata chasing. Don't sleep on Glasgow either...Coach Kropp will have his guys playing well by season's end.
5-1 La Plata will have a test with Mercer on 12/20 at the NCMC Trenton Shootout, and then again 1/4 with Linn County.
