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Rockhurst done

One positive case on a football team could turn into 15 other players on the team being quarantined for the game. In the end all Rockhurst could have suited up was a JV squad and maybe they didn't want to risk injury just to play a game.
 
World wide that is correct. Now you are including "complications". Stop acting like this is some "end of the World virus". It is nowhere near that UNLESS you are over 80. A little common sense goes a long way and HERD IMMUNITY (this is the Planetary virus i.e. EVERYONE will eventually be exposed) is the answer not HIDING from it.
Yes! Including "complications" is a must!! Lets say someone has a pre-existing condition. Normally their body, with the help of medications, can manage. Now this person catches COVID and suddenly their immune system cant keep up, causing their pre-existing condition to flare up and ultimately kill them. So what killed them? COVID or their pre-existing condition!? NICE TRY!!
 
I’m a Monett guy, I have zero dogs in the fight with Webb and Carthage! Just annoyed with how much some of the Webb fans complain when things don’t go their way!

Is this behavior is exclusive to Webb, then, or is your annoyance just exclusive to Webb?
 
I know its good, but just stay away from the stuff guys!
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Good wishes!
With symptoms?? Sick, kinda sick, or feel ok? Any idea where you were exposed?
I’m not sure where exposed but I think it was possibly at work. The guy on the opposite cubicle from me was coughing Friday and missed Monday and Tuesday.

My symptoms were odd. I’ve never really had a fever or lost smell or taste. I woke up early Tuesday morning with a chest cough, my calves both really hurt and I was very dizzy, heart racing (I have Afib). Doctor was pretty sure I didn’t have it until the test came back positive. Yesterday was bad, no doubt. I got the z-pack and a levabuterol inhaler and it seems to be doing the trick.

My .02 is the people most at risk are those who get it and ignore the symptoms until it is too late.
 
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I’m not sure where exposed but I think it was possibly at work. The guy on the opposite cubicle from me was coughing Friday and missed Monday and Tuesday.

My symptoms were odd. I’ve never really had a fever or lost smell or taste. I woke up early Tuesday morning with a chest cough, my calves both really hurt and I was very dizzy, heart racing (I have Afib). Doctor was pretty sure I didn’t have it until the test came back positive. Yesterday was bad, no doubt. I got the z-pack and a levabuterol inhaler and it seems to be doing the trick.

My .02 is the people most at risk are those who get it and ignore the symptoms until it is too late.

I have wolff parkinson white syndrome so I really don't want the Rona because of what I have heard it does to the heart. Again my thoughts are with you.
 
0.001 percent of the World's population. Not like cancer, car accidents, smoking etc. etc. never mind other pathogens spare the World.

Couldn't you compare literally any one cause of death with every other cause of death and say the same exact thing? I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, just that the logic is faulty.
 
World wide that is correct. Now you are including "complications". Stop acting like this is some "end of the World virus". It is nowhere near that UNLESS you are over 80. A little common sense goes a long way and HERD IMMUNITY (this is the Planetary virus i.e. EVERYONE will eventually be exposed) is the answer not HIDING from it.
Pure ignorance
 
I have wolff parkinson white syndrome so I really don't want the Rona because of what I have heard it does to the heart. Again my thoughts are with you.
The doctor prescribed me a specific inhaler because he said certain decongestants (like DayQuil)bring on Afib. I would think you would have the same risk, probably worse with Wolff parkinson so let’s hope it stays away from you.
 
World wide that is correct. Now you are including "complications". Stop acting like this is some "end of the World virus". It is nowhere near that UNLESS you are over 80. A little common sense goes a long way and HERD IMMUNITY (this is the Planetary virus i.e. EVERYONE will eventually be exposed) is the answer not HIDING from it.

HERD IMMUNITY IS SO WRONG. Do the math....
Herd immunity is reach when est. 60-70% of the population has been infected and developed immunity.
We are approaching 9 million people infected out of the total US population of 331 million.
Herd immunity will be reached when 200 million Americans have been infected and developed immunity.
That's a death sentence for hundreds of thousands of Americans.

We can't throw our hands up in the air and let it run it's course. We have to buy time until we get a vaccine. From the beginning, scientist said it would take from a year to a year and a half for a vaccine. I am still optimistic of that time frame. We can continue taking precautions to give science a chance instead of just giving up now.

This next 3-4 months of normal flu season with covid is going to be bad, as scientist had warned us the surge was coming. Remember covid started last year at the end of normal flu season. We're just getting started this year and it's rising everywhere.
 
I doubt the kid told his parents “ hey can I get tested”. I’m sure the kid was sick enough to go to the dr. Then all drs. Immediately give you the test. This if I don’t get tested crap is ridiculous.
 
I doubt the kid told his parents “ hey can I get tested”. I’m sure the kid was sick enough to go to the dr. Then all drs. Immediately give you the test. This if I don’t get tested crap is ridiculous.
or was exposed from someone who had it and showed no illness.
 
Lol. I don’t know for sure but I think I got it last Friday.
The doctor prescribed me a specific inhaler because he said certain decongestants (like DayQuil)bring on Afib. I would think you would have the same risk, probably worse with Wolff parkinson so let’s hope it stays away from you.
or was exposed from someone who had it and showed no illness.
Look people I am sure every one of us is exposed to some degree every day. Cheeta comes into everyone’s office every morning to take our temperature,,,,then we all go around the plant potientialy exposing hundreds of people who go home and on the way home stop at the store and expose dozens of people before they get home to expose their own family.

Masks are of very little use to keep from passing it on, and zero use keeping you from getting it.

Until their are treatments and vaccines it’s pretty much like Drago said
 
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Masks are of very little use to keep from passing it on, and zero use keeping you from getting it.
Interesting. Masks do very little from passing it on? Zero from keeping someone from getting it? I believe there is some sound science that suggests the opposite on your first point there. Your second point all depends on what type of mask you're wearing.
 
Look people I am sure every one of us is exposed to some degree every day. Cheeta comes into everyone’s office every morning to take our temperature,,,,then we all go around the plant potientialy exposing hundreds of people who go home and on the way home stop at the store and expose dozens of people before they get home to expose their own family.

Masks are of very little use to keep from passing it on, and zero use keeping you from getting it.

Until their are treatments and vaccines it’s pretty much like Drago said
Masks are 95% effective when within 6 ft. for under 15 minutes if both parties are wearing them properly
 
We can't throw our hands up in the air and let it run it's course. We have to buy time until we get a vaccine. From the beginning, scientist said it would take from a year to a year and a half for a vaccine. I am still optimistic of that time frame. We can continue taking precautions to give science a chance instead of just giving up now.
How many more millions have to lose their income to achieve your utopian goal? Seems the better path is to have those at risk take the necessary precautions and allow the otherwise healthy to get back to work, if that's even possible at this late stage. Chicago is shutting down again and that will be the final straw for one of the best dining areas in the world. I hate what the liberal movement has done to one of the most prosperous times in our country's history. KC/Political Crap rant over.
 
Interesting. Masks do very little from passing it on? Zero from keeping someone from getting it? I believe there is some sound science that suggests the opposite on your first point there. Your second point all depends on what type of mask you're wearing.
A cloth face covering is not intended to protect the wearer, but may prevent the spread of virus from the wearer to others

That is a copy right from CDC website

You are correct that if everyone was clean shaven and were properly fitted with good cartridge style medical grade respirators it would almost stop infections if properly used
 
A cloth face covering is not intended to protect the wearer, but may prevent the spread of virus from the wearer to others

That is a copy right from CDC website

You are correct that if everyone was clean shaven and were properly fitted with good cartridge style medical grade respirators it would almost stop infections if properly used
Thank you for supporting my point.
 
A cloth face covering is not intended to protect the wearer, but may prevent the spread of virus from the wearer to others

That is a copy right from CDC website

You are correct that if everyone was clean shaven and were properly fitted with good cartridge style medical grade respirators it would almost stop infections if properly used
I go back to when we had this discussion previously. If I take a spray bottle and hold a mask over it will it decrease the amount of liquid in the air... the answer is yes and it applies both ways. While masks don't provide a huge benefit to the wearer they do provide a small one, and a big one for everybody else masks will not prevent the disease but limit the spread of it
 
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How many more millions have to lose their income to achieve your utopian goal? Seems the better path is to have those at risk take the necessary precautions and allow the otherwise healthy to get back to work, if that's even possible at this late stage. Chicago is shutting down again and that will be the final straw for one of the best dining areas in the world. I hate what the liberal movement has done to one of the most prosperous times in our country's history. KC/Political Crap rant over.
This is a joke.
 
I think herd immunity gets a bad rap because it implies that people are insensitive or don’t care that a lot of people are going to get sick and die. I think it is more of an inevitability. I think eventually most of us will have had it.

I think I’m lucky to have got it later. Back in the early spring we didn’t have a good handle on how to deal with it and we are clearly getting better now. Apart from the most vulnerable ones in the population now which we have to protect this will go away when most of us have had it and recovered.

Thank goodness this isn’t the Spanish Flu or we would probably have about 15 million dead by now.
 
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It's terrible logic that shows zero empathy. I'm sick of it.

I've known three people that tested positive. Two of them in their forties and had some pretty bad symptoms.
Where's the empathy for the vast majority of the population it doesn't affect?
Where's the empathy for school-aged children that have had their life (and education) completely turned upside down?
Where's the empathy for the millions who have lost jobs?
Empathy isn't secular.
 
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How many more millions have to lose their income to achieve your utopian goal? Seems the better path is to have those at risk take the necessary precautions and allow the otherwise healthy to get back to work, if that's even possible at this late stage. Chicago is shutting down again and that will be the final straw for one of the best dining areas in the world. I hate what the liberal movement has done to one of the most prosperous times in our country's history. KC/Political Crap rant over.
agree great post
 
How many more millions have to lose their income to achieve your utopian goal? Seems the better path is to have those at risk take the necessary precautions and allow the otherwise healthy to get back to work, if that's even possible at this late stage. Chicago is shutting down again and that will be the final straw for one of the best dining areas in the world. I hate what the liberal movement has done to one of the most prosperous times in our country's history. KC/Political Crap rant over.
What about people that have to stay home?
Is it fair for them to have to stay home while everyone else lives life?
What about those that rely on caregivers?
What if a kid brings it home, then it gets passed to grandma?
What if...
What if...
What if...
 
Interesting. Masks do very little from passing it on? Zero from keeping someone from getting it? I believe there is some sound science that suggests the opposite on your first point there. Your second point all depends on what type of mask you're wearing.
Back last Feb Fauci was saying that the only actual studies on mask usage showed they were almost completely ineffective. On May 31st in a CNN interview Fauci said “masks are basically symbolic “

He is our top infectious disease guy.

Does anyone have link to results from an actual scientific study done and released after June 1st that made everyone suddenly change their minds about mask usage??
 
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I have empathy for all of them. It all sucks. But are you really comparing a year of subpar education and losing a job to people dying or surviving and having long-term effects?? They aren't equal.

If our dear leader had just admitted this was serious in March and not made it political (you're an idiot if you really think he took it seriously), then the effects mentally, financially, economically, and health-wise would be FAR LESS. I'm not a fan of people acting like we should have had zero deaths. Not realistic. But he botched this and most people think this way. It's why he's going to lose the popular vote by 10-12 million next week.
First of March Fauci was telling everyone the threat to the USA was minuscule. So Trump shouldn’t have listened to him back then, but he should now??
 
Seriously, how easy would it have been for him to just tell America "this is very, very serious. The best thing we can do right now is care for one another and wear these masks that the best experts in the world recommend. To be a patriot right now is to care for others."

Instead, he is incapable of showing any vulnerability WHATSOEVER. He knew his fanbase, who pleasures themselves to the BS ideal of freedom, would rally around anti-science sentiments. You are a fool and a baby if you see a mask ordinance and a suggestion to stay home for a couple of months as an infringement of your "freedom".
Back in March the best experts were telling him masks were useless
 
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I have empathy for all of them. It all sucks. But are you really comparing a year of subpar education and losing a job to people dying or surviving and having long-term effects?? They aren't equal.

If our dear leader had just admitted this was serious in March and not made it political (you're an idiot if you really think he took it seriously), then the effects mentally, financially, economically, and health-wise would be FAR LESS. I'm not a fan of people acting like we should have had zero deaths. Not realistic. But he botched this and most people think this way. It's why he's going to lose the popular vote by 10-12 million next week.
Yes, I am most certainly equating it to that. Because it's not that simple. The long-term effects on financial and mental health for some will linger as well. And you have zero clue of long-term effects of the virus. Just like the medical community has zero clue.

I don't know if he took it seriously or not...and I don't care. It's not the point. This was going to run rampant no matter what. It's a virus. Virus are gonna virus. Without a vaccine (that, btw, if is at all like the flu vaccines, will operate at about 40% validity) it's either shut down or live life with precautions. The BS notion of flattening the stupid curve early and opening things back up is just as idiotic as anything to do with this whole thing.

One thing we can agree on, yes this completely sucks. It's the damnedest thing I've seen in 45 years of living. I've got a 55 year old type 1 diabetic brother that works at a hospital. It absolutely sucks. But changing the livelihood of the mass majority of the population for an extremely small percentage of the population is the most sucky of sucks. And that 55 year old type 1 diabetic brother would scream that from the mountain tops.
 
Back last Feb Fauci was saying that the only actual studies on mask usage showed they were almost completely ineffective. On May 31st in a CNN interview Fauci said “masks are basically symbolic “

He is our top infectious disease guy.

Does anyone have link to results from an actual scientific study done and released after June 1st that made everyone suddenly change their minds about mask usage??

Yes: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article
It points out what is effective and what is ineffective as well.
 
How many more millions have to lose their income to achieve your utopian goal? Seems the better path is to have those at risk take the necessary precautions and allow the otherwise healthy to get back to work, if that's even possible at this late stage. Chicago is shutting down again and that will be the final straw for one of the best dining areas in the world. I hate what the liberal movement has done to one of the most prosperous times in our country's history. KC/Political Crap rant over.

Have we become so selfish and spoiled that we can't sacrifice for another 6 months to a year to save tens of thousands of lives?

Yes, some people are hurting and we should be helping them thru this crisis. Unemployment is at 8%, that means the other 92% is working. Why should we send another $1,200 check to people working? Most people I know never missed a pay check since covid started.
 
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