New era in Webb City football starts now.
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The real star coach is the one Seneca has now.
A WC guy and I was just talking about this last night. He said they are playing the same offense.
Playing as one of the smaller schools in
class 5 you would think they would mix a little more passing game into the game plan if they have the ability to throw it. It seems like they will have a much harder time with the guys up front playing against the bigger schools.
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Does WC have a QB up to that task? They had a ton of injuries last season and it seemed they was going through QBs and RBs like water so we never got a good look.
People aren't leaving Webb City. In fact yet another co-worker of mine just moved in from Joplin bc his oldest kid is about to start school.
However I have heard that more than a few people have been rather open expressing their disapproval of the new coach hire. Allegedly this is mostly people relatively new to WC, thought the admin could have and should have gone after a bigger name with an iron clad resume. Maybe a Jon Perry type? I know some that REALLY wanted Bailey but supposedly he was not at all interested in HC.
Opening at Nixa is a tough start and I'm afraid some of those voices will get real loud if that game doesn't go well. One of the worst things that can happen to Coach M would be a splintering of the support structure. Some parents faction and start trying to undermine and change things in the feeder programs. Or telling their kid to do one thing while coach wants them to do something else. More kids go all-in on baseball. I doubt that will happen but it could if this season or next doesn't establish that WC is still WC. The rest of the COC is already showing up to WC playing with a bit more confidence because they are no longer seen as unbeatable. At least for now.
Isn't that one of the points of running the veer though? To neutralize a size disadvantage? Playing against larger schools is not new to WC, they were doing this long before bumping to C5.
Yes, I thought that was the rationale for the academies all running some version of it.
On the other hand, I always felt that Webb's success was attributable to the dominating play of their lines and just wearing teams down. Sometimes dominating meant playing a really good, maybe even superior, opposing individual to a standstill and letting the skill people do the rest.
Their dedication to the weight room was evident and their technique was outstanding. Today, a lot of other teams have that same level of preparation so different story. AND, you cannot underestimate that the COC is a really good conference.
Not sure they had the freshman that was really quick that played some and a junior that they would bring in when they were going to pass but he didn’t play a bunch so not real sure.
It has shown in the past that when they can’t dominate up front and they have to pass it is a struggle to move the ball effectively. So I was thinking that with a new coach they might try to balance the attack a bit.
It wasn't necessarily "normal" but it wasn't unusual either. I believe the last was 2017. They won state again in 2019 but had a loss to Joplin. Seems like in the past any state champion team was also undefeated because regular season losses were all but unheard of. I think the COC is just a lot more competetive now than it was 2000-2015. I think part of what we're seeing now could be the reality of what happens if larger schools dedicate comparable efforts to weights, programs, good coaching, getting all the best kids to play, things that used to set WC apart but are becoming more common now.
There have been no undefeated team since 2017 by any COC school. Here are the last undefeated in regular season COC's though:
WC in 2018 (lost in semis I think to Ladue)
Joplin in 2019 (lost in championship game to Desmet)
Carthage in 2021 lost in district final to state champion Webb City who had losses to Joplin, Nixa and Carthage.
*Carthage was technically undefeated in 2020 but did not play WC.
Last year Republic stole an undefeated COC from Nixa in OT. And Carthage could have nabbed it if Nixa's 2pt conversion had failed in their game. The COC was really tough last year and it wasn't one of WC's strongest teams, they were plagued with injury among other things but they still managed a very respectable finish by anyone else's standards.
Also just to clarify I'm not suggesting WC won more games back in those years because their schedule was easy. They scheduled some very tough non-con opponents. Won some, lost some. Some of the teams WC had in that era were off the charts good. The COC was decidedly easier though and prior to that the SWC was not even close.
Ooohhhh. I get it now. Your comments all make sense. Your 5th grade son wants to sling the ball around the yard because that’s what he sees on TV, and you’re wondering if you should be shopping him around to some of the nearby schools.
Actually 4th grade but my son can’t even play QB because little jimmy’s dad won’t let him but he is the best anywhere around according to his personal speed coach and his personal qb training coach and is one of the best in the region according to the coaches at all the regional camps we pay to go to. Alabama and Clemson both are already looking at him.
The couple years M ran the offense, we saw more passing so I think he'll probably add more in during his tenure. I hope the best. Good guy.
I have seen Webb sling it around a bit, when they have the kids that could execute it. They even do it in youth, and yes I have seen teams in youth run different offenses at times.
I find it funny that Webb had a bit of a down season "for them" and remember many coaches would love to finish as they did, and people are already starting to dig the grave and etch the grave stone.
It will be interesting to see what the new coach does, but I still remember the year they went 5-5 and many started digging thier grave then, John while he had won early was still young and unproven, many were ready to run him out of town, but Webb came thru that okay and even stronger, many forget that period because they have been so successful for so long.
I find it funny that Webb had a bit of a down season "for them" and remember many coaches would love to finish as they did, and people are already starting to dig the grave and etch the grave stone.
It will be interesting to see what the new coach does, but I still remember the year they went 5-5 and many started digging thier grave then, John while he had won early was still young and unproven, many were ready to run him out of town, but Webb came thru that okay and even stronger, many forget that period because they have been so successful for so long.
I know of the one for safety reasons and that is a substantial loss. Probably the most athletic kid in his class. I haven’t heard of the other one, that is interesting.
The other one is definately playing elsewhere but as for the why he transferred out......there are way too many rumors around Webb to start flinging butter at walls. I do hope it works out well for both Webb and the young man.
Some people were whispering behind the scenes that maybe the party was over but in reality it was just that the class of 1999 was kind of a turd in terms of athletes aside from a couple standouts.
One thing that is different vs 1998 is now you've got a lot of move-ins, people who sold and bought homes, in some cases convincing a spouse to leave a beloved hometown - for their kids sports endeavors. People with a lot of skin in the game, people with expectations far beyond what was the case in the 1990s. Maybe that won't be a factor but I think it will be.
Plus there is social media. I just think a mediocre season or two early on for McFarland would be a lot uglier for him than the 12 months during and after Roderiques 5-5 team were for him.
I'm sure I liked life much better before social media.
I hate social media so much. I can't even imagine what it's like to be a teenager now. It just seems awful.
I was really looking forward to seeing him destroy people....and the matchup with the 6'8 tackle from Nixa. Oh well
