Missouri Media Rankings for Week 2
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Liberator Dad
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I am looking forward to attending the Big 8 games this year. My son landed his first coaching job at a Big 8 school this year. I watched him play from 3-12 and 4 years of college and now I get to watch him coach in a great conference. It has been a great ride and I am looking forward to seeing him move to this next step. So Big 8 here I come!
Liberator Dad
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I hope he doesn't kill me for saying but, Aurora...
Liberator Dad
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I'll be at the Aurora game Friday night watching them play Lamar. Haven't seen Lamar play all the way through the run they have had. Ought to be fun.
Big win for him last week over Mountain View Liberty!! CONGRATS!!!!
If you go the Aurora/Seneca game would like to meet another poster.
Liberator Dad
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You bet, I will probably go, my son is fresh out of college so he is usually up in the press box calling defenses etc. back when he was playing in high school I met several of the Webb City posters. They were great guys and we bought each other a hotdog before they whipped our butts LOL although I will say my son's senior year we kept it very close in a monsoon LOL.
Liberator Dad
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I know. But I need to go support my son. Been going to his games for 14 years. The Liberators need a win badly. I hope they pull it out tomorrow. I'll be listening on my radio app 
Really?? I'm assuming you're just trolling but in any case.....
The '08 Cassville team that won state was actually a very average team that got on a roll at the end and took advantage of some opportunities (Monett losing their QB, some interesting stuff in the L-R game and the first year they took 2 teams out of Districts in which they finished 2nd). That team lost what, 3 games and was an opponents missed extra point from not even making the playoffs?
I've lived in Monett for 25 years and had sons play in high school in both periods being discussed. Last year's Monett team was the best offensive team Monett has had in the 25 years I have been here I think. They were big and athletic and could run or throw the ball. Very balanced and I think that is what made them different than any of the other teams. I think there have been a couple better defenses than last year's but last year's defense got the job done when it counted. They would compete very well in any period and were always right there with Lamar. Led Lamar from the first quarter into the 4th last year and the difference was kickoff returns. 2 for TDs and another that set up a TD. The year before, the Monett-Lamar game was a single score game with about 5 minutes left in the 4th if I remember correctly. If Lamar could compete, so could last year's Monett team.
Fire Away!! LOL
Not going to fire away, but just take a look at the quality of opponents they were playing in conference last year. Aurora, Mac, Seneca, and East Newton were terrible. Cassville and Mt. Vernon were okay at best. Lamar did what Lamar does. You can't honestly tell me that you think most of these programs are at the level they have been in the past?? I'm glad the class 3 state champs are excited that they kept in close against the Class 2 state champs...
This guy is ridiculous. Yes high schools have conferences that will have a few teams that aren't good almost every year. What do you expect? Like someone said, you're obviously trolling and have no.idea what you're talking about.
In 2008 East Newton, Aurora, CJ, MV & Seneca were not good, Monett steam rolled thru the conference that year they beat those 5 schools by a combined score of 223-15. That is 44 points per game scored on 5 teams in what you are saying was a tuff year? They were not challenged until the Lamar game when we lost our QB. So not sure what you are remembering about that conference being so much stronger that year?
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LOL As I've stated in previous post I agree that the Big 8 is one of the if not the strongest small school conferences in the state. As stated by bullit above in 2008 there were 5 teams that weren't very good, thats not a great percentage. For this year example I feel Lamar is still a very good team, but I don't think they are near the team they have been in the past just because of the loss of so much speed, and some depth (still probably win another championship though). I think Monett or Cassville are sitting behind them. Cassville might be better than last year, but Monett is nowhere close to the same team. I still feel everyone else is very average, and yes I know Seneca and MV are 2-0. On a side note the trade off of CJ for Mac didn't help matters, and the new conference realignment isn't helping the conference at all as far as football is concerned..
The Class 2 champs you speak of would TURBO CLOCK EITHER OF THE back to back Cassville teams
Bottombulb while i may not agree with you please dont let people run you off. Its nice to actually have something to talk about for once
Are we talking about the same conference (Big 8) that has half its members ranked in the top 10 media poll in their respective class? This is considered down?...ok.
Yes Mac County is not very good in the past but they are 2-0 out of conference right now, but come on until about the last 2-3 years in the conference CJ was about average at best and not like they were Hanging up Conference banners every year much less in the thick of the race. In fact their last year in the Conference Lamar throttled them 56-34 and CJ only lost to Webb 14-7, so is the conference weaker or are we stronger? Maybe that is why other teams are getting blown out more now. And I might be older than you so I can remember when Neosho Webb Carthage were in our conference. So things change just the facts of life I wish CJ would have stayed but they moved on and so must the Big 8.
Only time will tell about this year, but so far out of conference most of the Big 8 schools have done very well, we will just bet up on each other come conference play. I think whichever class 3 team comes out on top in the Big 8 has a good chance of hoisting or at least competing to for the state banner come the end of the year.
Cassville definitely took advantage of reclassification during their state runs leaving a void left by the dominant teams between 2000-2008. (Harrisonville, Platte County moved to Class 4 and Maryville dropped to Class 2)
Plus that was the first year you got a do over in district play if you finished second, otherwise they would have been done.
There is ALWAYS something to talk about on here! Just look at the Doc Guys! We have been keeping the same thread going to months now. We even hold the record for most replies!!!
I do agree with you that whichever team comes out will have a good shot at making a state run. Glad to see someone on here level headed enough not to get overly defensive in a conversation and be able to just talk. I know you have been in monett for a long time, and I have gotten to watch a lot of Monett football too over the years, and I still firmly believe you guys have had multiple teams better than the state championship team from last year. I just feel the path to winning it isn't quite as tough as it has been in the in the past. I understand the CJ deal just because they were so much bigger than some of the schools in the conference that it was probably time to go,.
Got to keep things interesting some how on here. It's been stagnant for to long.
Not just talking about the Big 8. Talking about the whole state of class 3 football. It just got turned into a Big 8 discussion.
Easy there buddy! Im starting to think you dont know what the word stagnant means. This place has been FAR from "stagnant." Just go look at the thread Top Doc QBs! We Doc Guys keep things interesting around as best we can.
Youre darn right we are Joe! At least a few of us Doc Guys are sticking TOGETHER!
I don't agree with the statement (Monett has had multiple teams better then last year's state title team). That was the most talented team I've seen Monett have in a long time. Never saw their 70's state title teams play, but I'd bet you would have to go that far back to see a Monett team on that level.
Oh boy here were go. Yes I will visit your thread from time for quick laugh. I must say that you are a good sidekick to J. Kane.
Going to have to agree to disagree on that one. They did have a talented team, but their team speed wasn't there at all. The coaching staff did a great job of putting kids in the right spots. They had a good front seven, but their secondary was bad. I saw the Mt. Vernon game at Monett last season, and if MV had any kind of defense at all they would have handled monett. They all just looked scared of Branch though. That very mediocre mv team gave the cubs all they wanted so don't tell me this was the most talented group monett had ever put on the field.
Wait what?? That game was 44-28 I don't think that is giving the Cubs all they wanted. Pushed them yeah.
In the Lamar-Monett game last year, neither team led by more than a touchdown until Lamar scored at the 7:57 mark of the 4th quarter to take a 43-34 lead. A couple minutes later, Lamar scored to make the final score 49-34.
The game was tied at 7-7 in the first and 21-21 at the half. Monett scored at the 8:27 mark of the 3rd quarter with Lamar scoring at the 6:49 mark. But Lamar missed the extra point and Monett led going into the 4th 28-27. Lamar scored at the 11:03 point in the 4th and never trailed again. It was a back and forth game and very exciting to watch.
Lamar's Luke Hardman, did not dress out for this game. If he had, I don't believe the game would have been as close. He was a threat to score everytime he touched the ball. On defense, he usually shut down the other teams best receiver. He was a difference maker on both sides of the ball.
The game was tied at 7-7 in the first and 21-21 at the half. Monett scored at the 8:27 mark of the 3rd quarter with Lamar scoring at the 6:49 mark. But Lamar missed the extra point and Monett led going into the 4th 28-27. Lamar scored at the 11:03 point in the 4th and never trailed again. It was a back and forth game and very exciting to watch.
Lamar's Luke Hardman, did not dress out for this game. If he had, I don't believe the game would have been as close. He was a threat to score everytime he touched the ball. On defense, he usually shut down the other teams best receiver. He was a difference maker on both sides of the ball.
Seeing as the score was 28-30 going into the fourth quarter I would have to disagree. The cubs got away late (as they should have been the whole game) but that game was in doubt the entire time. If you were at the game then there is no questioning that. Should be a good matchup for the two tomorrow night.
