Gun restriction vs. Abortion

[Neutron Monster]

And gun ownership is up! Problem solved!

The opposite is true, actually - the rate of gun ownership has declined. The average household is less likely to own a gun. See http://www.newsweek.com/us-gun-ownership-declines-312822 and many other sources.

To the extent gun sales are up, that reflects the average gun owner owning more guns.

 

[millerbleach]

It's legal. In the eyes of this great nation, that makes it right. I'm not addressing this topic any more. I will be happy to discuss ridding the world of guns any time you wish, just keep the two topics separate. Get your own thread.

So, abortion was wrong when it was illegal but right now that it's legal?

Slavery was once very legal so it must have been right too.

 

[millerbleach]

America is a much less violent place that it was 20-30 years ago.

So why all the concern now? Things are better but worry has increased.

 

[millerbleach]

There have been 994 mass shootings in the US since 2012, that's way more than 2 or 3 a year.

And there have been maybe 10 on the national news.
I guess the rest of them were too normal to mention.

 

[millerbleach]

I'm sure you do, people are usually very cavalier about sharing their elective abortion stories... *sarcasm off*

Call me a liar if you wish but people who have abortions usually end up with great remorse and share their experience. None have ever claimed they had pregnancy complications. ALL have said it seemed like the smart thing to do but regret it beyond belief.

 

[Neutron Monster]

So why all the concern now? Things are better but worry has increased.

Not true at all - go look at public polling on crime. Crime was a major political issue 25 years ago. It generally isn't in 2015. Many people used to consider crime the single most important issue facing our country - more important than the economy or foreign relations. Almost no one would say that now.

Look at the initiatives pushed in 1992-1996 by Clinton. No one in either party today is talking about anything like that. You could never have had a debate about reducing mandatory minimums in 1994 - we're talking about significantly reshaping the bill signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

 

[Neutron Monster]

And there have been maybe 10 on the national news.
I guess the rest of them were too normal to mention.

sadly true, things that are normal here would be national outrages in other countries