I know that’s what a lot of people want to see but I think that’s unlikely. Will Webb football be what it was in the 2000-2010s almost no chance of that. Even with roderique I don’t think that would be the case. Not unless they can convince a few hundred kids who don’t play football to leave the school so they can drop a classification.
Two bad losses while abnormally short handed isn’t the end of everything. Now if losing these games becomes a trend we’re seeing when the field is covered with skilled experienced athletes that’s a different matter but it’s not where we’re at today.
Today they are just struggling and everyone is enjoying seeing Webb city be legit bad at football for the first time any of us can remember.
It’s been said many times before (probably even in this thread), but even JRod went 5-5 his second season.
However, one season like this is an aberration. Two and the coaching staff has some explaining to do.
Biggest concern has to be the weight room/conditioning. I get it - football is a violent sport and there will always be injuries. But the injuries these Webb teams endure every season for the last 5+ years are atypical. And severe. We’re not talking about turning an ankle or spraining a wrist. We’re talking about season ending knee injuries season after season.
People used to joke that Webb was putting something in the water to make their kids bigger and faster. Now the joke is the water is making them brittle.
Also, I think this is showing a little of the limitations of Coach Wyatt. He is a great X and Os coach and he is doing a good job with the Zizzers IMO. But he is also a guy who is going to rub some the wrong way and he is not going to get out some of the athletes on the fence about things. The result of this is going to be lower numbers. This is what separates Coach Ary from many coaches including Wyatt. He was great at X and Os and had the personality to get out and keep kids playing. Perkins had that personality as well, but struggled with more of the game and discipline stuff. Wyatt has been at schools where lower numbers were not a big issue and pretty much everyone played both sides of the ball. Now that he has moved up in class size that becomes a bigger issue. Will be interesting to see how he maneuvers in those waters. I think they have a good shot of winning their district still. But maybe tough to go much beyond that.
1. He sounds like Buckmaster. He was a great coach but some kids didn't want to play for him. A kid would either love him or hate him
2. WP and CJ will play in the district title game. WP has a better first string. I would say CJ has more depth. Only a few kids are playing both ways for CJ right now. The game may be decided by how many injuries WP has at that time.
UNREAL a little piece of Pick Em I never anticipate using happened the SUPER BONUS/DEDUCTION which is for any game that spreads 60+. Not only did this happen but it was the NWCMO Game of the Week!
The reward for those who picked correctly is 5 pts. (2 for the bonus/deduction, 2 for the game of the week plus 1 for the super) with a deduction of 2 pts. for incorrect choices.
ANOTHER huge one was the 8-man Game of the Week which also went bonus/deduction ergo correct picks get 3 pts. with a single point deduction for incorrect ones.
NOW that we've cleared that up the Stats to the minute are done and Boogie_mane is gonna win easily with an incredible 28 pts. with this afternoon's game at University Academy to come.
Look for that game score to appear as known this afternoon then all the usual stats to come.......................
Hope springs eternal! Reality check. The teams Webb has lost to have been clobbered by a couple teams remaining on your schedule (Republic and Carthage). Small chance against Neosho or Joplin. I’ll give you Willar_.
This is what is shocking to me. Kickapoo didn't even belong on the same field as Republic last night. Republic could have scored 80 if they had wanted too. Webb will have to improve massively to just lose to Republic by 14.
Would tickle me to death if they would win out. None of the teams left on their schedule are much better than average football teams. When Webb was halfway healthy they had Nixa on their heals for two quarters and scored more on them than anyone so far.
I saw kids on defense last night standing on their heels waiting to get hit, time to start some different kids and find a group that wants to play
Hope springs eternal! Reality check. The teams Webb has lost to have been clobbered by a couple teams remaining on your schedule (Republic and Carthage). Small chance against Neosho or Joplin. I’ll give you Willar_.
The win against Lebanon is very misleading. The yellow jackets drove up and down the field on the cardinal defense, but turned the ball over four or five times in that game.
Oh, and don’t look now but they are averaging 35.5 ppg scoring. By end of regular season that will likely be over 40.
I thought losing 9 starters from last year on offense would lower that?
I sure did at least early (which only really verified opening night when nobody knows what to expect) but yeah they are really settling into an offense that can control clock with an explosive Soph QB who is also settling in. Scary stuff for future opponents. Skipping Homecoming (pretty much always do) next week but will be over in GV Week 6.
I've been privately telling local friends etc. #6 has yet to really break loose welp last night ended that. Only very minor, fixable critiques would be the very high arc on a few of the QB's passes and the end zone fumbles (one called the other not). Come playoff time if they can stay healthy OMG OMG.
It’d be nice if the Jeff Citys, the Webb Citys, etc could maintain a great representation of Missouri public school football, but things do change. Of course, if Jeff was still able to do what they did, Capital City would still just be a non-footballer’s dream.
I think one can both enjoy watching them struggle while also having an enormous amount of respect for the tradition they have. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. And totally agreed, it will be really interesting to watch it all unfold.
Also, I think this is showing a little of the limitations of Coach Wyatt. He is a great X and Os coach and he is doing a good job with the Zizzers IMO. But he is also a guy who is going to rub some the wrong way and he is not going to get out some of the athletes on the fence about things. The result of this is going to be lower numbers. This is what separates Coach Ary from many coaches including Wyatt. He was great at X and Os and had the personality to get out and keep kids playing. Perkins had that personality as well, but struggled with more of the game and discipline stuff. Wyatt has been at schools where lower numbers were not a big issue and pretty much everyone played both sides of the ball. Now that he has moved up in class size that becomes a bigger issue. Will be interesting to see how he maneuvers in those waters. I think they have a good shot of winning their district still. But maybe tough to go much beyond that.
Unfortunately I think Nixa will remain a problem for the next few years, their QB threw a heck of a ball and he’s got plenty of athletes to throw it to. And he’s only a sophomore. This might be the best team they’ve had in awhile.
I think Carthage will be fine, think last night shows where they need to improve if they want to make a run in Class 5. Agree with the other messages, I think the west side of the COC is completely wide open, not sure we’ve got a good read on anyone after playing the east side. Nixa will steamroll through that side.
I think Nixas Soph class is solid. They come back to Earth after that group. I’d imagine once this group that is juniors graduate they’ll be back to being good, but nothing like they are now. No knock, just that they won’t be steamrolling all of SWMO.
Unfortunately I think Nixa will remain a problem for the next few years, their QB threw a heck of a ball and he’s got plenty of athletes to throw it to. And he’s only a sophomore. This might be the best team they’ve had in awhile.
I think Carthage will be fine, think last night shows where they need to improve if they want to make a run in Class 5. Agree with the other messages, I think the west side of the COC is completely wide open, not sure we’ve got a good read on anyone after playing the east side. Nixa will steamroll through that side.
I am with Mr. Hat here. I get why others are giddy over watching them struggle, but I have nothing but respect for the run they have had. Every school that hates them wishes their school was like them. It is no doubt going to be an interesting story to follow.
I think one can both enjoy watching them struggle while also having an enormous amount of respect for the tradition they have. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. And totally agreed, it will be really interesting to watch it all unfold.
I take a great amount of pride in the fact the entire state is so giddy WC is having a poor season so far. This is decades of angst and frustration being built up and finally expressed. Only shows what a historical run WC has been on. Live it up fellas, you deserve to have a little fun after watching that dominance for so long.
Others are welcome to knock Webb and/or kick them when down. Hey I get it they've knocked the crap out of so many SWMO FB programs over the years................rivals etc. they have been such with my Alma Mater Kearney but I have nothing but pure, flat out respect for them and everything they've done for MO HSFB over the decades. Yeah I'm the sappy type who roots for all the kids but, my goodness, they are gonna recover and I cannot wait to see them do it!
I am with Mr. Hat here. I get why others are giddy over watching them struggle, but I have nothing but respect for the run they have had. Every school that hates them wishes their school was like them. It is no doubt going to be an interesting story to follow.
For being one of the biggest class 4 teams we play way too many kids both ways. Never seen this small of a Zizzer team. There are some good players that could be playing but refuse to play, who step out their Sophomore year. It was obvious in the 4th quarter they were out of gas. Could be the reason why Jones pass game is suffering by play defense end the entire game. Just my two cents.
I think that is definitely a huge problem right now. Other teams have way more left in the tank and the Zizzers are spent. A little cooler weather will help with that possibly. But it still is not a good situation.
For being one of the biggest class 4 teams we play way too many kids both ways. Never seen this small of a Zizzer team. There are some good players that could be playing but refuse to play, who step out their Sophomore year. It was obvious in the 4th quarter they were out of gas. Could be the reason why Jones pass game is suffering by play defense end the entire game. Just my two cents.
Would tickle me to death if they would win out. None of the teams left on their schedule are much better than average football teams. When Webb was halfway healthy they had Nixa on their heals for two quarters and scored more on them than anyone so far.
I saw kids on defense last night standing on their heels waiting to get hit, time to start some different kids and find a group that wants to play
