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when are School Administrators going to figure out they need to lock the doors

Police engaged with the shooter BEFORE he entered the school. Why didn’t they stop him? He could just blow a hole in a locked door or shatter a window. It’s too easy to get a weapon. How about we don’t let these punks own guns nor body armor.
 
Texas state senator Roland Gutierrez to CNN: 18 kids and 3 adults dead, shooter's grandmother still alive (was airlifted), school shooter was born in North Dakota, went to high school in Uvalde, on his 18th birthday bought two assault rifles. It’s too damn easy.

Constitutional carry: no license, no training.
 
Ole Abbott signed into law last year that 18 year olds can purchase guns (used to be 21). You can’t rent a car at 18. You can’t buy beer at 18. You aren’t mature enough for those, but by golly you are ready to own a powerful weapon with no training. Wonder why this keeps happening?
 
You want to talk about extremism? The Texas gun law is so extreme right it’s unfathomable.

 
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Texas state senator Roland Gutierrez to CNN: 18 kids and 3 adults dead, shooter's grandmother still alive (was airlifted), school shooter was born in North Dakota, went to high school in Uvalde, on his 18th birthday bought two assault rifles. It’s too damn easy.

Constitutional carry: no license, no training.
And that's never going to change in our country. But we can and should take simple steps to actually protect kids in schools. You would rather see them slaughtered than actually take steps to protect them
 
Police engaged with the shooter BEFORE he entered the school. Why didn’t they stop him? He could just blow a hole in a locked door or shatter a window. It’s too easy to get a weapon. How about we don’t let these punks own guns nor body armor.
I have not read anywhere that police engaged the shooter before he entered the school. I do think you are just making stuff up. Funny how we pay for every airport to have armed security, metal detectors, security fences and bomb sniffing dogs,,but we won't do the same common sense steps to protect children
 
So let’s spend trillions fortifying every building of every school and arming everyone to the teeth. I thought you liked low taxes. That’s the life we want. Of course we need to do the same for every grocery store and theatre and mom and pop shop. I thought you supported small business? Whatever makes you feel better, just keep spewing your nonsense. #Prolifemyarse

We will have to build a bubble of bullet proof glass so kids can go out at recess. And the same for our practice fields and parks. And definitely a dome for every football stadium with metal detectors.
That’s the dystopian life we need.
 
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I agree the doors should have been locked. There are very few schools "in this day and age" with unlocked doors. However, many rural parents do not want metal detectors at entrances, and kids subject to being searched on entry. In relatively "safe" places in the country, people don't want their children to feel like they are entering a jail or prison. I agree, it should be a local school board decision on the extent of security measures used. But doors should be locked, and everyone buzzed in during the school day. That's not an expensive, intrusive, or difficult safety measure.

When I first heard the news from Texas yesterday, one of my first thoughts was I would bet anyone any amount of money that an AR15 was involved!!!!
 
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If you are going to blame the principal, let’s just blame the kids for not wearing bullet proof vests and helmets as they cowered in the corner and were blasted beyond recognition. It’s easy access to guns. By a freakin high school kid. They need to post the pictures TODAY of those kids. Then we can decide what to do.
 
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I agree the doors should have been locked. There are very few schools "in this day and age" with unlocked doors. However, many rural parents do not want metal detectors at entrances, and kids subject to being searched on entry. In relatively "safe" places in the country, people don't want their children to feel like they are entering a jail or prison. I agree, it should be a local school board decision on the extent of security measures used. But doors should be locked, and everyone buzzed in during the school day. That's not an expensive, intrusive, or difficult safety measure.

When I first heard the news from Texas yesterday, one of my first thoughts was I would bet anyone any amount of money that an AR15 was involved!!!!
Would love for that to be possible. The district I teach in has 2 annex buildings. With at least 5 classrooms with doors that lead directly to the outside. Those doors would have to be locked and teachers opening doors every time a student comes in, goes out to the restroom, etc.
And the door to get into the building next to us either has to be locked or a card swipe, with probably 200 kids going in and out that door a day (obviously I am counting trips out and in not total students). Who is locking, unlocking, and locking back that door? Several schools just were built in a different time, before machine guns made things different.
 
I am tired of wondering if the kid I made mad yesterday is coming up here with an automated weapon today. They don't respect anything, especially life. The same kid pointed a gun used in hunter safety in a teacher's face, the firing pin was out of it but still...
 
Guns at a young age are part of the problem. So is mental health. I read that the shooter was bullied? Probably desensitized with violent first shooter video games.
 
Police engaged with the shooter BEFORE he entered the school. Why didn’t they stop him? He could just blow a hole in a locked door or shatter a window. It’s too easy to get a weapon. How about we don’t let these punks own guns nor body armor.
Can’t stop that, getting a gun on the street or from the criminal element will always be easy.It’s to easy to get drugs how about we don’t let addicts get drugs or use them. How’s that worked out.
There is no way to stop insane people from doing insane things.
 
So let’s spend trillions fortifying every building of every school and arming everyone to the teeth. I thought you liked low taxes. That’s the life we want. Of course we need to do the same for every grocery store and theatre and mom and pop shop. I thought you supported small business? Whatever makes you feel better, just keep spewing your nonsense. #Prolifemyarse

We will have to build a bubble of bullet proof glass so kids can go out at recess. And the same for our practice fields and parks. And definitely a dome for every football stadium with metal detectors.
That’s the dystopian life we need.
I find it funny that you think that it won’t cost Trillions to enforce or institute the type of gun laws you and the left want.
 
Would love for that to be possible. The district I teach in has 2 annex buildings. With at least 5 classrooms with doors that lead directly to the outside. Those doors would have to be locked and teachers opening doors every time a student comes in, goes out to the restroom, etc.
And the door to get into the building next to us either has to be locked or a card swipe, with probably 200 kids going in and out that door a day (obviously I am counting trips out and in not total students). Who is locking, unlocking, and locking back that door? Several schools just were built in a different time, before machine guns made things different.
Not a machine gun a semi/auto. Don’t lie.
 
Not a machine gun a semi/auto. Don’t lie.
A gun is a gun.
That wasn't a lie, that was a mistake. I don't know guns, I just know that they are using ones that shoot a lot of ammo.
For you to call that a lie is ridiculous.
 
I am tired of wondering if the kid I made mad yesterday is coming up here with an automated weapon today. They don't respect anything, especially life. The same kid pointed a gun used in hunter safety in a teacher's face, the firing pin was out of it but still...
no school shooter that I know of has ever had an automatic weapon . Its Impossible to remove all dangerous weapons from society and even if you have the political will to make it happen it would take decades. Hardening schools is not terribly difficult to do
 
Guns at a young age are part of the problem. So is mental health. I read that the shooter was bullied? Probably desensitized with violent first shooter video games.
You said it, violent video games put this all in motion, they are desensitized about killing!
 
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It's a lot harder and more expensive than you think.
I tried to pick my granddaughter up at Mark Twain in Webb and had to buzz in, identify myself, get picture in front of camera before they would unlock door and let me in. It's not rocket science, do you want kids safe or not???
 
I’m pretty sure the high school I used to work at had at least 12-15 doors in the main building that went outside. Efficient student flow calls for using all of those doors. The Unitec building is across the parking lot. The multi purpose building is 50 yards away. The alternative school building is across another parking lot. Let’s be real.

Just make it harder than hell to access guns. Put an age limit on them. If you aren’t trusted enough to buy a beer, you can’t buy a semi-automatic weapon. Make people responsible for their weapons. If your kid uses your weapon to harm someone, you are in some major trouble. Secure your damn guns.

And one other thing. Gun nuts don’t get to pick what guns are called. If a gun is used in an assault its a freakin assault weapon. if you can shoot a bullet every second, that’s a freakin machine gun.
 
MGHS I'll bet you a $100 bill that the next mass shooting involves a shooter with a AR15.

BET???????
 
I’m pretty sure the high school I used to work at had at least 12-15 doors in the main building that went outside. Efficient student flow calls for using all of those doors. The Unitec building is across the parking lot. The multi purpose building is 50 yards away. The alternative school building is across another parking lot. Let’s be real.

Just make it harder than hell to access guns. Put an age limit on them. If you aren’t trusted enough to buy a beer, you can’t buy a semi-automatic weapon. Make people responsible for their weapons. If your kid uses your weapon to harm someone, you are in some major trouble. Secure your damn guns.

And one other thing. Gun nuts don’t get to pick what guns are called. If a gun is used in an assault its a freakin assault weapon. if you can shoot a bullet every second, that’s a freakin machine gun.
I can easily shoot a bullet a second with an old fashion revolver. You are clueless
 
Can you shoot 30 bullets in 30 seconds? Shut up goober.
So shooting and killing 6 kids in six seconds is ok??

with a revolver in each hand that's 12 killed in 12 seconds so I guess since it's not a semiautomatic black rifle that would be ok also
 
What prevents a murderer from buying a gun from an older person. 21? What's the difference? You are talking about one size that fits all without explaining how this massacre could've been prevented. It's easier to blame Texas, Greg Abbott and your political opponents, while the southern border is wide open, while real terrorists walk across. Either you are for the law or lawlessness, nothing is relative.
You folks need to get off this open border crap! the reports I've seen says they arrest thousands per day. If they arrest them then they ain't just walkin across the border and go anywhere they please, they're getting caught! You can't keep them from showing up, Mexico needs to step it up and not let them in their country and walk across it to get here.
 
So shooting and killing 6 kids in six seconds is ok??

with a revolver in each hand that's 12 killed in 12 seconds so I guess since it's not a semiautomatic black rifle that would be ok also
You do know the AR15 tears the hell out a human body right? Getting shot by anything while school is not acceptable but a pistol will never be able to do the same damage as an AR15, or many other rifles, and you know it!
 
You do know the AR15 tears the hell out a human body right? Getting shot by anything while school is not acceptable but a pistol will never be able to do the same damage as an AR15, or many other rifles, and you know it!
Well of course,,,a 30-30 has more muzzle energy than a .223 fired from a AR-15. Almost every rifle round is more effective than the average pistol cartridge
 
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You folks need to get off this open border crap! the reports I've seen says they arrest thousands per day. If they arrest them then they ain't just walkin across the border and go anywhere they please, they're getting caught! You can't keep them from showing up, Mexico needs to step it up and not let them in their country and walk across it to get here.
That’s their red herring.
 
A couple blasts from an AR 15 and that locked door is in pieces. But cards is an expert
 
A couple blasts from an AR 15 and that locked door is in pieces. But cards is an expert
You have watched too many movies. 65 grain .22 caliber bullets traveling at 4000 feet per second just explode when they hit something solid like a heavy steel door.

have you ever fired an AR-15 or anything that fires a .223 cartridge??
 
So you are for the law when it's relative. I have witnessed illegal immigrants in droves on my flights from El Paso Texas to KC for nearly 2 years. They are dressed in Walmart sweats, wear cheap sneakers, carry a cell phone and government issued folder. They are from every country in world. They were apprehended. But according to common knowledge they're not obligated to return for the immigration hearing in a meaningful way. I have taken photographs. I have seen bus loads of groups leaving the airport. They are the ones that have bothered to get assistance before dispersing across the USA. We are paying for them. It's that simple. This is only one airport, I do not see the other airports at the Southern border. I had two flights per week for 10 years. I can see the border from my hotel.
There are thousands of people flying into our country from Europe and Asia every day. Many of them stay even when their visas expire. This was happening before during and after the Trump administration.
im trying to remember when you whined about them also.
 
You have watched too many movies. 65 grain .22 caliber bullets traveling at 4000 feet per second just explode when they hit something solid like a heavy steel door.

have you ever fired an AR-15 or anything that fires a .223 cartridge??
Heavy steel door? How many schools have you visited? Bahahahahaha
 
A gun is a gun.
That wasn't a lie, that was a mistake. I don't know guns, I just know that they are using ones that shoot a lot of ammo.
For you to call that a lie is ridiculous.

Your not stupid you know the difference between Automatic Fire and Semi-Automatic fire. Surely you have watched a Movie with Machine guns one trigger pull and the gun fires till the trigger is released. A military grade weapon......the public can own them but the Red tape is massive, the expense sucks and the ATF can knock on your door unannounced at anytime to expect all your weapons. So owing a Full Auto is rare, but not impossible.

Every gun can shoot a lot of ammo....My 30.06 has a 10 round mag and I have several of those....Yes you don't know guns but I can't fathom a person not knowing the difference between a Machine gun and regular gun.

Sure you like Parroting the MSM narrative that guns are the issue when it's the people wielding the guns that are the issue. Taking away legal guns will not stop the highly motivated and mentally ill person from obtaining a illegal firearm and doing carnage. Just like prohibition didn't work or the war on drugs hasn't worked either.
 
MGHS I'll bet you a $100 bill that the next mass shooting involves a shooter with a AR15.

BET???????
Of course it will be a AR15 because that is the gun that the MSM has hyped up as the weapon of choice of Mass shooters and thus the mentally deranged latches on to those tropes and it becomes a self fulfilling situation. The mental make up these people are such that they develop a copycat viewpoint to achieve the outcome they desire. Out law AR15 and they will still get them you will just create a black market. Do you recall the 70's and 80's when the MSM hyped up the 38 special as the weapon of choice and of course it became the cheap disposable gun of death in that era.

The logical way of looking at it is that AR15 kill less people than violence done with Hands, Feet, Knifes, Clubs or handguns. The threat is minimal. The sensation by the media and the emotional outburst by the left is massive on a scale that doesn't reflect the actual danger or threat.
 
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