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Trump May Have Read The Constitution, It's Unclear If He Understands It

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The First Amendment

Shortly after the November 2015 terrorist attacks in Paris, Trump told Fox News that the U.S. government should close mosques where “some bad things are happening.”

At its core, Trump’s proposal would target a religious institution for sanction because of its members’ adherence to certain beliefs. It’s a textbook example of the kind of action expressly prohibited by the First Amendment—which protects religious liberty and bans laws that would prohibit the “free exercise” of religion. This is known as the Free Exercise Clause.

Trump could claim that he sought to shut down only mosques that advocate what he calls “radical Islam” (although he made no effort to provide evidence of such advocacy). Even this modified proposal, however, would run afoul of not only the Free Exercise Clause but also the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment, which allows us to stop speech that incites immediate violence but not broadly controversial speech that might inspire some future violent act.

Trump has also suggested that as president, he would enact new restrictions on the First Amendment’s guaranteed freedom of the press. “We're going to open up those libel laws,” Trump said in February. “So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace … we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected.” In a constitutional democracy, it is essential that the press has broad freedom to investigate public officials so that voters have the information needed to hold them accountable.

The Eighth Amendment

“What do you think about waterboarding?” It’s the rhetorical question that Trump asked of an adoring Ohio audience in June. He answered his own inquiry: “I like it a lot. I don't think it's tough enough.” He seemed to yearn for the medieval torture and execution options available to ISIS militants, saying incredulously: “So we can't do waterboarding, but they can do chopping off heads, drowning people in sealed cages? You have to fight fire with fire.”

Trump’s personal constitution is deeply at odds with the restraints demanded by the U.S. Constitution.

Perhaps more troubling, in December, Trump brazenly expressed his desire to seek to kill and torture not only terrorists, but their family members. That idea has been met with shock and horror from a bipartisan swath of lawmakers, military officials and former Cabinet members—and there’s a basic constitutional reason why.

The Eighth Amendment prevents the use of cruel and unusual punishment, protecting people within the U.S., at a minimum, from punishments that involve torture and the intentional infliction of pain. Justice Antonin Scalia famously argued that torture to gather information is not unconstitutional because it is not “punishment” within the meaning required by the clause. However, Trump’s discussions of waterboarding and intentional attacks on civilian family members of terrorists have the flavor of punishment-as-vengeance, rather than torture intended to gather intelligence. If this is indeed their purpose, and if he means to apply them to the war on terror within the United States, then they are clearly unconstitutional. In fact, they would serve well as hypotheticals that constitutional law professors might use to demonstrate how the ban on cruel and unusual punishment might be violated. (The proposal to target terrorists’ innocent civilian family members would also be a violation of the Fifth Amendment’s requirement of “due process,” because they have committed no crime and would have had no trial.)

The 14th Amendment

Donald Trump’s statements about Muslims run up against so many clauses of the Constitution that it’s hard to pick just one. But the 14th Amendment is key here. This includes the Equal Protection Clause, which forbids the government from depriving individuals from “equal protection of the laws”—a protection that courts have ruled extends to all levels of government in our federal system.

Trump’s suggested “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S.” clearly runs afoul of both. The policy would, in effect, deny the right of Muslims who are U.S. citizens to leave the country, as they would presumably be banned from reentry once abroad.

Trump has attempted to walk the statement back, claiming that while his ban focused on only those seeking to immigrate to the U.S., we had to generally be “vigilant” about all Muslims entering the country. As he put it, this policy “[would] not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant.” As a policy, "vigilance" targeted at all Muslims inside the country’s borders creates a presumption of guilt based solely on religious belief, a clear violation of the Free Exercise and Equal Protection Clauses—protections that extend to citizens and noncitizens alike.

At minimum, Trump’s various iterations of a policy limiting travel and immigration for Muslims suggests heavy profiling based not just on religion but also on race and ethnicity.

Trump’s proposed ban on foreign Muslims immigrating to the United States may also violate our Constitution. Despite the fact that immigration policy is set by the president and Congress, under the First Amendment’s Free Exercise Clause and the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause (which is applied to the federal government through the Fifth Amendment), any law based on animus—hatred of a particular ethnic or religious group—is unconstitutional, and this certainly qualifies. The high court has held that immigration restrictions based on ideology do not necessarily violate the Free Speech Clause, but discrimination based on religion is different. Trump’s proposal erroneously ascribes dangerous beliefs to an entire religion.

Separation of Powers

In perhaps the most perfect storm of Trump’s hostility to constitutional values, in June, he declared U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel unfit to preside over lawsuits against Trump University solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage. In Trump’s view, this Indiana native who was born to parents from Mexico could never fairly preside over a case against Trump in light of Trump’s proposal to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico. This hostility became even more apparent when Trump threatened the judge’s tenure, should he win the presidency.

Trump’s comments about Judge Curiel drew attention for suggesting ethnic prejudice is at work in his thinking. However, they also suggest a fundamental misunderstanding about the role of the judicial branch in U.S. government. The judicial branch is not supposed to be beholden to personal interests of the president. In fact, the founders designed the judiciary to counter the power of the presidency. This system of constitutional checks and balances, James Madison wrote in the Federalist Papers, is “essential to the preservation of liberty.” He emphasized the importance of an independent judiciary, quoting Montesquieu in Federalist 47: “There is no liberty, if the power of judging be not separated from the legislative and executive powers.” Trump’s threat to remove Judge Curiel because of a personal vendetta indicates a clear disregard for the independence of the judiciary.

Currently, we have many checks to protect an independent judiciary. An essential one is the requirement that the Senate confirm Supreme Court justices. Even so, there is reason to fear that Trump could undo our constitutionally designed independent judicial system without a care. Responding to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's criticism of him, he tweeted out a threat to “swamp” the court with “real judges and real legal opinions,” which many read as a statement of his intent to pack the court with justices who would do his bidding instead of acting as independent stewards of justice.

To those of us who study the Constitution, this is a frightening prospect. Unbeknownst to many Americans, there is nothing in our Constitution that requires nine Supreme Court justices. At the founding we had six, for most of American history we’ve had nine, and currently we have eight. In a controversial move during his tenure in the White House, President Franklin Roosevelt once threatened to add justices until they—to use Trump’s term—“swamped” the court and issued rulings favorable to his view. FDR’s threat, though controversial, was intended to preserve his New Deal policies, now widely recognized as constitutional, against a conservative Supreme Court that was hostile to them. Trump’s threat, however, appears intended to further his unconstitutional agenda. Of course, it is unclear what exactly Trump meant, but his indifference to the constitutional values of the rule of law and an independent judiciary might just give him the confidence to try to pack the high court.
 
So Trump blatantly (at best) disregards the Constitution (which you "conservatives" howl about and claim to care for when a democrat is in office) and none of you have anything to say in his defense?

Shocking.
 
So Trump blatantly (at best) disregards the Constitution (which you "conservatives" howl about and claim to care for when a democrat is in office) and none of you have anything to say in his defense?

Shocking.
You posted at 10:28 PM. Sleepy. This article is word vomit. Not at a single constitutional law has been violated.
 
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Are you saying the press is not reporting the truth?

Did I say that?

There are examples in the original post. Do you disagree that what he has done (as outlined in the OP) are in violation (directly or indirectly) of the 1st, 8th, and 14th Amendments.

If not, why not?
 
At its core, Trump’s proposal would target a religious institution for sanction because of its members’ adherence to certain beliefs. It’s a textbook example of the kind of action expressly prohibited by the First Amendment—which protects religious liberty and bans laws that would prohibit the “free exercise” of religion. This is known as the Free Exercise Clause.
Are these people US citizens? If they are, he will be in violation. If he does, I will lead you in the revolt.
 
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In a constitutional democracy, it is essential that the press has broad freedom to investigate public officials so that voters have the information needed to hold them accountable.
If they lose their job, or he throws them in prison. I will march on Washington with a pitchfork.
 
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I will read more of this later. It's a good article, I take back my vomit comment and reclassify it as Constitutional Law is above my pay grade.
My first thought is, every state would become a sanctuary city. This idea is the ultimate goal of left. Alinsky progressives are smarter than me.
 
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Are these people US citizens? If they are, he will be in violation. If he does, I will lead you in the revolt.

Most of them are yes.

Put the shoe on the other foot, if Trump was threatening to shut down christian churches with known Klan or white nationalist militia affiliations, or Black Panther affiliations, would there be outrage?

Shutting down a mosque that US citizens use because of suspected "bad things" happening there is in direct violation of the 1st amendment.
 
If they lose their job, or he throws them in prison. I will march on Washington with a pitchfork.

What if he simply litigates them into impotence? Curbing or eliminating libel laws in such a manner that journalists can be sued successfully for reporting (accurate) things that are harmful to his reputation or administration is just censorship of the press by a different name.
 
It would be one thing if Trump merely displayed a lack of knowledge of the Constitution. Ignorance can be corrected. However, the problem is not just that Trump is ignorant of the Constitution; it’s that he doesn’t care. His political philosophy, to the extent that he has one, is the demagoguery that the Founders designed the Constitution to protect us against.

The Founders’ fears of a threat to constitutional democracy led them to design a system to thwart potential demagogues, a system built upon three branches of government to check and balance one another’s powers. But these checks are not fail-safe, and historically, even the strongest of constitutional regimes can collapse. Think of the Roman Republic, which also had a system of checks and balances but ultimately gave way to the dictatorship of the Caesars. A President Trump could try to pack the court, repeatedly seek to enact unconstitutional policy, and threaten the judiciary. Indeed, these are all actions he has threatened to carry out if he becomes president.

Trump has a dictator’s impulse to simply make decisions without regard for his potential constitutional role or its limits.

The prospect of shaking up our political system has excited Trump’s supporters. But many of those same supporters—including Tea Partyers and traditional Republicans, whose party descended from the drafters of the 14th Amendment—purport to value the Constitution. They should wake up to the fact that the presidency that Trump has in mind will undermine the Constitution they claim to cherish.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139
 
Black Panther, no way. Mention a cop shooting the next sentence is Emmit Til has been killed again. Remember, America is systemically racist.
Obama and Hillary suggested that Trump is a candidate for the Klan or white nationalists, nice move.
 
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The First Amendment

Shortly after the November 2015 terrorist attacks in Paris, Trump told Fox News that the U.S. government should close mosques where “some bad things are happening.”

At its core, Trump’s proposal would target a religious institution for sanction because of its members’ adherence to certain beliefs. It’s a textbook example of the kind of action expressly prohibited by the First Amendment—which protects religious liberty and bans laws that would prohibit the “free exercise” of religion. This is known as the Free Exercise Clause.

Trump could claim that he sought to shut down only mosques that advocate what he calls “radical Islam” (although he made no effort to provide evidence of such advocacy). Even this modified proposal, however, would run afoul of not only the Free Exercise Clause but also the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment, which allows us to stop speech that incites immediate violence but not broadly controversial speech that might inspire some future violent act.

Trump has also suggested that as president, he would enact new restrictions on the First Amendment’s guaranteed freedom of the press. “We're going to open up those libel laws,” Trump said in February. “So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace … we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected.” In a constitutional democracy, it is essential that the press has broad freedom to investigate public officials so that voters have the information needed to hold them accountable.

The Eighth Amendment

“What do you think about waterboarding?” It’s the rhetorical question that Trump asked of an adoring Ohio audience in June. He answered his own inquiry: “I like it a lot. I don't think it's tough enough.” He seemed to yearn for the medieval torture and execution options available to ISIS militants, saying incredulously: “So we can't do waterboarding, but they can do chopping off heads, drowning people in sealed cages? You have to fight fire with fire.”

Trump’s personal constitution is deeply at odds with the restraints demanded by the U.S. Constitution.

Perhaps more troubling, in December, Trump brazenly expressed his desire to seek to kill and torture not only terrorists, but their family members. That idea has been met with shock and horror from a bipartisan swath of lawmakers, military officials and former Cabinet members—and there’s a basic constitutional reason why.

The Eighth Amendment prevents the use of cruel and unusual punishment, protecting people within the U.S., at a minimum, from punishments that involve torture and the intentional infliction of pain. Justice Antonin Scalia famously argued that torture to gather information is not unconstitutional because it is not “punishment” within the meaning required by the clause. However, Trump’s discussions of waterboarding and intentional attacks on civilian family members of terrorists have the flavor of punishment-as-vengeance, rather than torture intended to gather intelligence. If this is indeed their purpose, and if he means to apply them to the war on terror within the United States, then they are clearly unconstitutional. In fact, they would serve well as hypotheticals that constitutional law professors might use to demonstrate how the ban on cruel and unusual punishment might be violated. (The proposal to target terrorists’ innocent civilian family members would also be a violation of the Fifth Amendment’s requirement of “due process,” because they have committed no crime and would have had no trial.)

The 14th Amendment

Donald Trump’s statements about Muslims run up against so many clauses of the Constitution that it’s hard to pick just one. But the 14th Amendment is key here. This includes the Equal Protection Clause, which forbids the government from depriving individuals from “equal protection of the laws”—a protection that courts have ruled extends to all levels of government in our federal system.

Trump’s suggested “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S.” clearly runs afoul of both. The policy would, in effect, deny the right of Muslims who are U.S. citizens to leave the country, as they would presumably be banned from reentry once abroad.

Trump has attempted to walk the statement back, claiming that while his ban focused on only those seeking to immigrate to the U.S., we had to generally be “vigilant” about all Muslims entering the country. As he put it, this policy “[would] not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant.” As a policy, "vigilance" targeted at all Muslims inside the country’s borders creates a presumption of guilt based solely on religious belief, a clear violation of the Free Exercise and Equal Protection Clauses—protections that extend to citizens and noncitizens alike.

At minimum, Trump’s various iterations of a policy limiting travel and immigration for Muslims suggests heavy profiling based not just on religion but also on race and ethnicity.

Trump’s proposed ban on foreign Muslims immigrating to the United States may also violate our Constitution. Despite the fact that immigration policy is set by the president and Congress, under the First Amendment’s Free Exercise Clause and the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause (which is applied to the federal government through the Fifth Amendment), any law based on animus—hatred of a particular ethnic or religious group—is unconstitutional, and this certainly qualifies. The high court has held that immigration restrictions based on ideology do not necessarily violate the Free Speech Clause, but discrimination based on religion is different. Trump’s proposal erroneously ascribes dangerous beliefs to an entire religion.

Separation of Powers

In perhaps the most perfect storm of Trump’s hostility to constitutional values, in June, he declared U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel unfit to preside over lawsuits against Trump University solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage. In Trump’s view, this Indiana native who was born to parents from Mexico could never fairly preside over a case against Trump in light of Trump’s proposal to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico. This hostility became even more apparent when Trump threatened the judge’s tenure, should he win the presidency.

Trump’s comments about Judge Curiel drew attention for suggesting ethnic prejudice is at work in his thinking. However, they also suggest a fundamental misunderstanding about the role of the judicial branch in U.S. government. The judicial branch is not supposed to be beholden to personal interests of the president. In fact, the founders designed the judiciary to counter the power of the presidency. This system of constitutional checks and balances, James Madison wrote in the Federalist Papers, is “essential to the preservation of liberty.” He emphasized the importance of an independent judiciary, quoting Montesquieu in Federalist 47: “There is no liberty, if the power of judging be not separated from the legislative and executive powers.” Trump’s threat to remove Judge Curiel because of a personal vendetta indicates a clear disregard for the independence of the judiciary.

Currently, we have many checks to protect an independent judiciary. An essential one is the requirement that the Senate confirm Supreme Court justices. Even so, there is reason to fear that Trump could undo our constitutionally designed independent judicial system without a care. Responding to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's criticism of him, he tweeted out a threat to “swamp” the court with “real judges and real legal opinions,” which many read as a statement of his intent to pack the court with justices who would do his bidding instead of acting as independent stewards of justice.

To those of us who study the Constitution, this is a frightening prospect. Unbeknownst to many Americans, there is nothing in our Constitution that requires nine Supreme Court justices. At the founding we had six, for most of American history we’ve had nine, and currently we have eight. In a controversial move during his tenure in the White House, President Franklin Roosevelt once threatened to add justices until they—to use Trump’s term—“swamped” the court and issued rulings favorable to his view. FDR’s threat, though controversial, was intended to preserve his New Deal policies, now widely recognized as constitutional, against a conservative Supreme Court that was hostile to them. Trump’s threat, however, appears intended to further his unconstitutional agenda. Of course, it is unclear what exactly Trump meant, but his indifference to the constitutional values of the rule of law and an independent judiciary might just give him the confidence to try to pack the high court.
The constitution doesn't apply to foreign nationals not on US soil. They have ZERO constitutional rights unless they are inside the borders of the USA

A Syrian in a refugee camp in Turkey, or in transit any place in the world has no constitutional rights
 
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The constitution doesn't apply to foreign nationals not on US soil. They have ZERO constitutional rights unless they are inside the borders of the USA

A Syrian in a refugee camp in Turkey, or in transit any place in the world has no constitutional rights
Generally true although the executive branch is still constrained by laws passed by Congress. Those laws preclude the use of religion as a basis for setting immigration policy. You can't favor a religion. You can accept a minority religion as persecuted as a reason for accepting a refugee. you can't say we are excluding religion X.
 
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Black Panther, no way. Mention a cop shooting the next sentence is Emmit Til has killed again. Remember, America is systemically racist.
Obama and Hillary suggested that Trump is a candidate for the Klan or white nationalists, nice move.

Is that an answer or are you tap dancing around the question?

I'll ask again and see if I get an answer from you this time.

If Trump was talking about shutting down Christian churches with klan affiliation because "bad things were happening" in them, as he claimed about mosques would that be constitutional?

For all intents and purposes, the Klan is a terrorist organization so would shutting down their churches violate the constitution? If not, why not?
 
Is that an answer or are you tap dancing around the question?

I'll ask again and see if I get an answer from you this time.

If Trump was talking about shutting down Christian churches with klan affiliation because "bad things were happening" in them, as he claimed about mosques would that be constitutional?

For all intents and purposes, the Klan is a terrorist organization so would shutting down their churches violate the constitution? If not, why not?

It could violate the constitution since an act of violence must be committed before the federal authorities are allowed to shut them down. Again, I am not a constitutional lawyer. The intricate clauses in Constitutional Law take years to understand through the study of the precedence of previous rulings. I am not a lawyer.
Do I think shutting down a Christian Church that is a front for KKK terrorism? yes, I would burn it to the ground along with all the Bibles and clergy robes. Is a KKK church a leap from racism to terrorism? Ridiculous. Under the 14th Amendment, all Americans are guaranteed the equal rights under the law. Discriminatory acts were outlawed 50 years ago in the civil rights act. Democrats have been reintroducing racial categories into virtually every aspect of life and creating bureaucracies for race based privileges for designated groups. This has been extended into gender and ethnicity. While institutional and systemic was outlawed 50 years ago, Democrats continue to try and end it when there is no evidence that systemic racism actually exists. This is not to say that prejudice people don't exist but there is no systemic racism in American Institution's and if there is its already illegal, and easily remedied. Identifying groups and not individuals is antithetical to America's founding. Are all KKK people terrorist?. No. Are all Muslims terrorist no? This is ridiculous.
 
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It could violate the constitution since an act of violence must be committed before the federal authorities are allowed to shut them down. Again, I am not a constitutional lawyer. The intricate clauses in Constitutional Law take years to understand through the study of the precedence of previous rulings. I am not a lawyer.
Do I think shutting down a Christian Church that is a front for KKK terrorism? yes, I would burn it to the ground along with all the Bibles and clergy robes. Is a KKK church a leap from racism to terrorism? Ridiculous. Under the 14th Amendment, all Americans are guaranteed the equal rights under the law. Discriminatory acts were outlawed 50 years ago in the civil rights act. Democrats have been reintroducing racial categories into virtually every aspect of life and creating bureaucracies for race based privileges for designated groups. This has been extended into gender and ethnicity. While institutional and systemic was outlawed 50 years ago, Democrats continue to try and end it when there is no evidence that systemic racism actually exists. This is not to say that prejudice people don't exist but there is no systemic racism in American Institution's and if there it is already illegal, and easily remedied. Identifying groups and not individuals is antithetical to America's founding. Are all KKK people terrorist?. No. Are all Muslims terrorist no? This is ridiculous.

That word salad is hard to follow.

The question isn't "Is the Klan a terror group" (they are). The question is, would shutting a church with Klan affiliations down violate the constitution?

To those of us who aren't trying to BS our way out of admitting Trump is advocating violating the Constitution in multiple ways, yes shutting down a mosque or a church regardless of what is going on there is a violation of the Constitution.
 
That word salad is hard to follow.

The question isn't "Is the Klan a terror group" (they are). The question is, would shutting a church with Klan affiliations down violate the constitution?

To those of us who aren't trying to BS our way out of admitting Trump is advocating violating the Constitution in multiple ways, yes shutting down a mosque or a church regardless of what is going on there is a violation of the Constitution.
No Judge Judy, he is not. Not a single mosque has been shut down. Not a single church with KKK affiliations has been closed. Evidence? Define Klan affiliations. You stole the term word salad from me. A Muslim ban? Seriously, you lie.
 
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Constitutional Law and American Democracy
Wolters Kluwer, 2011
A new approach to constitutional law that ties cases to the most salient and controversial debates in our polity today, Constitutional Law and American Democracy presents a wide selection of carefully selected readings and cases that create a compelling, nuanced view of current key political and constitutional issues and interpretive approaches and problems through engaging topics of especially high interest to students.
You can ask for a free copy, this a sample of Brettschneiders readings.
 
No Judge Judy, he is not. Not a single mosque has been shut down. Not a single church with KKK affiliations has been closed. Evidence? Define Klan affiliations. You stole the term word salad from me. A Muslim ban? Seriously, you lie.

What is a ban on people from predominantly Muslim countries supposed to achieve?
 
That word salad is hard to follow.

The question isn't "Is the Klan a terror group" (they are). The question is, would shutting a church with Klan affiliations down violate the constitution?

To those of us who aren't trying to BS our way out of admitting Trump is advocating violating the Constitution in multiple ways, yes shutting down a mosque or a church regardless of what is going on there is a violation of the Constitution.
What did I miss? Did Trump shut down a Mosque? When and Where?
 
The ban is for people from countries with high levels of terrorist activity. They also have a lot of sand. Trump must hate sand.

Interesting, why no ban on Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Pakistan?

All a terrorist from Syria has to do is make it to Saudi Arabia or Egypt, catch a flight and now they're in the country in spite of the ban.
 
The ban is for people from countries with high levels of terrorist activity. They also have a lot of sand. Trump must hate sand.
It's a temporary Syrian refugee ban to screen for potential terrorists. The plan was poorly laid out, but corrected in 24 hours with minimal disruption.
In reality, this refugee ban was an attempt to rescue Christian Muslims. There is no URGENCY to import Islamic Muslims. Islamist faith is the majority in the UN camps. It's not working out so well ( the Christians that are still living in the UN camps). The real racism stems from the progressive elites in this country, and all the morons that follow it in lock step, complete with the media whitewashing and calling Trump a liar at every turn. The actual redeemers that Progressive follow are when they talk themselves, which never seems to end.
 
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Interesting, why no ban on Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Pakistan?

All a terrorist from Syria has to do is make it to Saudi Arabia or Egypt, catch a flight and now they're in the country in spite of the ban.
Now Gubba you know he is just following Obama's lead on these counties. You know the smartest Pres, ever. Oh wait Trump has said he and his generals were the worst ever so it makes little sense to use his policies, Oh wait I'm sooooooooooooooooooo confused you do know according to the great truth teller the sun came out during his speech and then poured as soon as he was done. Oh wait every picture I seen it looked cloudy and rainy during the speech and hardly a drizzle after, but that was probably just the evil media. Oh I'm sooooooo confused.:confused::confused:
 
Look above at the fake outrage from a phony Libertarian who misspelled totalitarian. U.S. can help many more Muslim refugees by helping fund the UN refugee camps. That's what Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab nations do... rather than massively import dangerous Jihadis from Islamic war zones.
 
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Look above at the fake outrage from a phony Libertarian who misspelled totalitarian. U.S. can help many more Muslim refugees by helping fund the UN refugee camps. That's what Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab nations do... rather than massively import dangerous Jihadis from Islamic war zones.
I do not care about his EOs they are basically what he said all along on his campaign trail. what does worry me his his constant lying. Calls of sunshine when it clearly is not shining and pouring rain when it isn't to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This guy is not right. All you heard during the campaign is what a liar Hillary is, but now we are told that his words mean nothing, but look into his heart. Lies on top of lies in order to make yourself look good to your peers is a form of mental disease period.
 
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Kumbaya is not sung by the Sunni/Shia. However, they both have the same attitude about Kaffir. The West is not human to them.
 
Look above at the fake outrage from a phony Libertarian who misspelled totalitarian. U.S. can help many more Muslim refugees by helping fund the UN refugee camps. That's what Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab nations do... rather than massively import dangerous Jihadis from Islamic war zones.

I never wrote totalitarian, so how did u misspell it?
 
It's a temporary Syrian refugee ban to screen for potential terrorists. The plan was poorly laid out, but corrected in 24 hours with minimal disruption.
In reality, this refugee ban was an attempt to rescue Christian Muslims. There is no URGENCY to import Islamic Muslims. Islamist faith is the majority in the UN camps. It's not working out so well ( the Christians that are still living in the UN camps). The real racism stems from the progressive elites in this country, and all the morons that follow it in lock step, complete with the media whitewashing and calling Trump a liar at every turn. The actual redeemers that Progressive follow are when they talk themselves, which never seems to end.
What is a Christian Muslim?
 
What is a Christian Muslim?
Good question. IDK. A Christian that lives in hells fury. WTF are they doing there? Please don't announce you denounced Mohammad and converted!
As far as I understand, there is no difference between the Government and Religion. That's why they want to come here! The Government actually wants you to die, and take as many infidels along the way.
Christians in this country don't want a theocracy. They aren't like liberals, demanding that everyone enthusiastically support their beliefs. Liberals have one belief, be tolerant of the intolerant and intolerant of the tolerant.
 
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