Teachers who previously worked in a different industry

[Toots_mcgee]

Also, spouses who are retired teachers.

Some in Congress are actually trying to help us get our full SS benefits. Chances are probably not great it will get thru, but at least they are aware of the issue.

Of course the freedom caucus is trying to hose us.

What to know about the House push to expand some Social Security benefits

The House is expected to try next week to pass a Social Security-related bill to ensure benefits for workers who are also eligible for other pensions despite a surprise move by hard-right Freedom Caucus leaders to derail the effort. It’s a quick turnaround to salvage what had been a bipartisan...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Toots_mcgee]

Welp it was going to pass in the house, so members of the freedom caucus chose election night to kill it while none of its supporters was around to object.

Members of the House Freedom Caucus orchestrated an unusual play on the House floor on Election Night that resulted in killing, at least for now, a broadly popular Social Security bill that was set to hit the floor for a vote as soon as next week, Roll Call reported.

Reps. Garret Graves, R-La., and Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., had successfully rounded up the 218 signatures needed for a discharge petition to bypass GOP leaders and bring up House Resolution 82, bipartisan legislation that would repeal two long-standing provisions docking Social Security benefits for certain retirees, including teachers in Texas and several other states. With 330 co-sponsors, including Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., passage of the Social Security Fairness Act was all but guaranteed. HR 82 would repeal the “windfall elimination provision” and “government pension offset,” which reduce Social Security benefits for those who spent portions of their careers in state and local government or other positions where their earnings weren’t subject to Social Security taxes.

On Tuesday night while presiding over a 7-minute pro forma session, Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Harris, R-Md., recognized Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., for a unanimous consent request. Good’s request to lay the Social Security bill on the table was agreed to by unanimous consent, with no one else in the chamber to object. In this context, laying the bill on the table has the same effect under House rules as defeating a bill on the floor, Roll Call reported. So, HR 82 is dead for the time being. -—Texas Classroom Teacher’s Association, 11/6/2024

 

[Toots_mcgee]

Freedom caucus couldn’t stop it!!!

That bill passed in the house 326-75. Now it is up to Chuck Schumer to give firefighters, policemen and teachers the rest of their SS. 🤞

 

[65TPT]

I would be perfectly fine if they got rid of Social Security. I understand the people who paid in deserve their share, but moving forward I would be fine investing that money on my own.

 

[Expect2Win]

Freedom caucus couldn’t stop it!!!

That bill passed in the house 326-75. Now it is up to Chuck Schumer to give firefighters, policemen and teachers the rest of their SS. 🤞

Are they going to do this to speed up the demise of SS?

 

[Toots_mcgee]

I assume a lot of house members have either earned state level pensions and/or have family members affected by this law. Because they haven’t gotten 325 votes on any bill of this sort in forever.

It’s a stupid law. Why should my wife not get my SS survivor benefits just because she taught 30 years and got a pension???

 

[hoopsrus6]

Don't know much about this, did the teachers/firefighters/police, etc. and their employers pay FICA exactly like other employees did?

 

[hoopsrus6]

I would be perfectly fine if they got rid of Social Security. I understand the people who paid in deserve their share, but moving forward I would be fine investing that money on my own.

I would like to have that option for sure.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Don't know much about this, did the teachers/firefighters/police, etc. and their employers pay FICA exactly like other employees did?

Pretty sure this mainly affects people that worked outside of the public school system at some point.
I'm fully vested in SS since I didn't start teaching until i was in my 30s and kept 'second jobs' for quite some time as well.

I doubt people are going to get 'something for nothing'.

I would also like to have back the money I paid in over the years to invest on my own.

 

[hoopsrus6]

Pretty sure this mainly affects people that worked outside of the public school system at some point.
I'm fully vested in SS since I didn't start teaching until i was in my 30s and kept 'second jobs' for quite some time as well.

I doubt people are going to get 'something for nothing'.

I would also like to have back the money I paid in over the years to invest on my own.

Everyone that paid in should be treated equally, I can't imagine any reason to do otherwise.

This could be a day to remember...I MAY ACTUALLY AGREE WITH TOOTS ON SOMETHING!!!!!!!!

Mark it down! 😂

 

[Toots_mcgee]

one part of it is If you worked long enough to qualify for SS and then you taught and earned a pension—not paying into SS, then they reduce your earned SS benefit significantly.

The second part is if you earned a teacher pension but your spouse paid into SS for years, you don’t get any survivor benefits from SS like people working in the private sector if your spouse dies before you do.

 

[hoopsrus6]

one part of it is If you worked long enough to qualify for SS and then you taught and earned a pension—not paying into SS, then they reduce your earned SS benefit significantly.

The second part is if you earned a teacher pension but your spouse paid into SS for years, you don’t get any survivor benefits from SS like people working in the private sector if your spouse dies before you do.

That sounds unfair to me and I hope it gets changed.

Whodathunk it...dogs sleeping with cats, pangolins kissing bats...Hoops is aligned with Toots on this one...STAMP IT!!!!!!

 

[65TPT]

one part of it is If you worked long enough to qualify for SS and then you taught and earned a pension—not paying into SS, then they reduce your earned SS benefit significantly.

The second part is if you earned a teacher pension but your spouse paid into SS for years, you don’t get any survivor benefits from SS like people working in the private sector if your spouse dies before you do.

I don't know enough about SS, but my understanding is that children only get benefits if they are younger than 18 when their parents die? Correct me if I'm wrong. If that is the case, then that is another reason I would add to wanting to get rid of SS.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I don't know enough about SS, but my understanding is that children only get benefits if they are younger than 18 when their parents die? Correct me if I'm wrong. If that is the case, then that is another reason I would add to wanting to get rid of SS.

Just give me my money back.

 

[bksfg4]

Just give me my money back.

Cry about it some more maybe? I heard somewhere if you are the biggest victim, you get the most clout in certain circles.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Cry about it some more maybe? I heard somewhere if you are the biggest victim, you get the most clout in certain circles.

You seem really triggered.

Ts and Ps.

 

[bksfg4]

You seem really triggered.

Ts and Ps.

Like a dem after a Trump victory cuz your winning so bigly

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Like a dem after a Trump victory cuz your winning so bigly

I always do write in candidates.

You twoparty clowns are screwing up my country.

 

[bksfg4]

I always do write in candidates.

You twoparty clowns are screwing up my country.

“My country” … I’m inspired by your consistent narcissism. Very Trumplike

 

[Veer2Eternity]

“My country” … I’m inspired by your consistent narcissism. Very Trumplike

lol you disappear from July to Nov 7th.
Therapy.