No middle class, no republic: GOP plans to destroy America’s safety net will also kill democracy

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Eliminating regulations to free up business is a bad thing in the eyes of libs. There is no way to show them otherwise. They think every government regulation is going to be eliminated because there is no way a conservative could make smart cuts. They still can't get over losing control.

As usual you've missed the point entirely. You may trust companies to just "do the right thing", but history shows, time and again, that companies will pollute and destroy anything in their path as long as it improves their bottom line.

We only get one planet, if you screw it up there's nowhere else to go. There's always more money to be made, but there's only one planet.

Also I like being able to breathe clean air, have clean water to drink, have reasonable assurances that companies aren't exposing me to toxic or nuclear waste.

You THINK companies care about people, we KNOW they only care about money.

 

[FistOH]

I'm sure he is now terrified.

The Federal Government owns 28% of all the land mass in the United States. The Government could solve the problem by giving away land.

 

[millerbleach]

Do you have a household income of over $250,000? I doubt it, so why are you so cavalier about the shrinking middle class?

Just because you say i'm "cavalier" doesn't make it so. Liberal policies are shrinking the middle class not taxes being too low. In my lifetime (quite a bit longer than yours) the standard of living in the middle class has soared to unthinkable heights. Just because the rich got richer didn't make everyone else poorer.

 

[millerbleach]

As usual you've missed the point entirely. You may trust companies to just "do the right thing", but history shows, time and again, that companies will pollute and destroy anything in their path as long as it improves their bottom line.

We only get one planet, if you screw it up there's nowhere else to go. There's always more money to be made, but there's only one planet.

Also I like being able to breathe clean air, have clean water to drink, have reasonable assurances that companies aren't exposing me to toxic or nuclear waste.

You THINK companies care about people, we KNOW they only care about money.

Liberal theology in a nutshell.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Liberal theology in a nutshell.

Realizing that companies aren't going to do the right thing if there's money to be made and we only have one planet is liberal theology?

Sounds like common sense, something you're obviously short on...

 

[Scout 4u]

Realizing that companies aren't going to do the right thing if there's money to be made and we only have one planet is liberal theology?

Sounds like common sense, something you're obviously short on...

Gubbba still believes that government is the answer.
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Really
Make that "Liberal" Government

 

[millerbleach]

Realizing that companies aren't going to do the right thing if there's money to be made and we only have one planet is liberal theology?

Sounds like common sense, something you're obviously short on...

Common sense to liberals. Glad i'm short on that.

 

[FistOH]

I can tell you that my area spent 2 consecutive years of production cycles just working on compliance with new regulations. Now the even worse part of this is that the new regulations were really just rehashing of existing regulations. The new stuff really does nothing to aid the consumer whatsoever over what already existed but it was nice that we could lose a couple years of production of new product to that. In my area, I would estimate the well over 50% of our time is spent on regulatory compliance.

Interesting. I will take your word for it. I recently read an article that Government doesn't keep you from succeeding, it limits how successful you can be (and as the article alludes disincentivises people from growing their business). Taxes and regulations make employing other people more onerous than most people can imagine. Managing people is hard enough without all of the government regulatory BS that sits on top of it. Then they sue you. The article basically corroborates your statement exactly. "Because of regs you often literally spend 50%+ of your time filling out forms showing you are in compliance" with some Duh Duh's nutball idea. That's time that could have been spent making product finding customers, etc. (i.e. doing business). So instead of working full time on your business you are working half-time or less (being government compliant <<produces>> *nothing at all* so in my book is *not* conducting business). I tend to agree with one poster's comment. Government regulation is necessary but it needs to be simple.

 

[wcowherd]

Miller doesn't want the government to make sure our drinking water is safe and our food is clean. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

I tend to agree with one poster's comment. Government regulation is necessary but it needs to be simple.

Such a j@ck@ss..."one poster", you can't even bring yourself to admit publicly that you agree with me, but you'll type multiple posts about Gary Johnson and weed use, and now attack my family.

I bet Jesus is proud of your behavior. Coward

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Miller doesn't want the government to make sure our drinking water is safe and our food is clean. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

Miller doesn't want ANY government intrusion...unless it's to restrict rights to people he disagrees with.

 

[FistOH]

Such a j@ck@ss..."one poster", you can't even bring yourself to admit publicly that you agree with me, but you'll type multiple posts about Gary Johnson and weed use, and now attack my family.

I bet Jesus is proud of your behavior. Coward

Ok Gary is awesome. What would Jesus do? You win. I agree with everything you write from now on. You're the one that got personal. If you can dish out personal insults you should be able to take it. Obviously we need separation. I will be the coward and bow out. You scare me. Peace out.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Ok Gary is awesome. What would Jesus do? You win. I agree with everything you write from now on. You're the one that got personal. If you can dish out personal insults you should be able to take it. Obviously we need separation. I will be the coward and bow out. You scare me. Peace out.

When did I get personal? Was it before or after you trolled me mercilessly? Guarantee I can pull up more personal and hateful crap from you than you can from me...

 

[millerbleach]

Miller doesn't want the government to make sure our drinking water is safe and our food is clean. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

I don't need the government to have safe water or clean food(your words not mine). Raise and grow your own food and purify your water. If you want it done for you, pay someone to do it. Only dependent libs need protected from basic necessities.

 

[wcowherd]

Raise and grow your own food and purify your water.

You are quite dense.

 

[Scout 4u]

When did I get personal? Was it before or after you trolled me mercilessly? Guarantee I can pull up more personal and hateful crap from you than you can from me...

Interesting that you would bring that up.

Though I may disagree with you on just about everything...

I always measure my negative response to you in a very respectful way.

You on the other hand are Mr Potty Mouth.

Kind of think the folks who monitor this site
would find your negative behavior unsettling. Oh no!

With a college degree and all I believe they would expect more from you...
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Well for what it's worth...
Have a HAPPY 2017

Think I'll just post some more X-mas Cheer and Happy New Year stuff

 

[millerbleach]

You are quite dense.

You just can't believe anyone would think government dependence is a bad thing.
Government "services" are such a huge part of everyones life now you couldn't eliminate them all at once. People must be weaned off them. The main focus of conservatives is the regulation parts that are so burdensome.
Of course that means New York City will continue to become swampland and the poles will keep melting unless that coming ice age I was taught about in school finally happens.

 

[millerbleach]

You on the other hand are Mr Potty Mouth.

Kind of think the folks who monitor this site
would find your negative behavior unsettling. Oh no!

With a college degree and all I believe they would expect more from you...

Moderators are liberals. They have no interest in stopping liberal bad behavior.
Ag Man is a threat to the human species though.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Moderators are liberals. They have no interest in stopping liberal bad behavior.
Ag Man is a threat to the human species though.

Please, give 5 examples of my "potty mouth" toward other posters...

Miller you have no idea what a liberal is, you think it's anyone who doesn't think just like you. Chris Christie is a liberal by your approximation.

 

[millerbleach]

Christie is not a liberal and not a conservative. He is a middle of the road stand for nothing moderate.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Christie is not a liberal and not a conservative. He is a middle of the road stand for nothing moderate.

Moderate...you mean someone who is trying to work for all the people, not just the right or left's special interests?

 

[millerbleach]

Please, give 5 examples of my "potty mouth" toward other posters...

Why 5? isn't one all it takes?
By the way, they are EVERYWHERE. A list of 20 wouldn't take long, well, maybe longer than Dr J.

Such a j@ck@ss..."one poster", you can't even bring yourself to admit publicly that you agree with me

"I don't like you so I'm going to subvert the discussion" and try to do your best to be turds in the punch bowl like Miller and Scout?

I seriously want to know. Don't worry I'm not going to call your employer and tell them you're an asshole, I'm sure they already know that.

am raising a family, active in church and the community so that candy assed morons like yourself can call me "boy".

Duck, I get how that may seem enticing, but you don't want that. Fisthimself's stalker schtick gets old real fast.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Why 5? isn't one all it takes?
By the way, they are EVERYWHERE. A list of 20 wouldn't take long, well, maybe longer than Dr J.

You guys consider that "potty mouthed" I thought conservatives were supposed to be tough? That's mild by any definition.

 

[millerbleach]

You guys consider that "potty mouthed" I thought conservatives were supposed to be tough? That's mild by any definition.

Why are they not as bad as D bag????

I don't want censoring, I want equal treatmenr.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Why are they not as bad as D bag????

I don't want censoring, I want equal treatmenr.

Be careful what you wish for, a LOT of your conservative compatriots will be gone too. FistOH, CoachPerk, Chief Justice, just to name a few who I know for a fact have said worse than what you posted on me..

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Why are they not as bad as D bag????

I don't want censoring, I want equal treatmenr.

You want equal treatment, how about you start policing your own...that would stop a lot of the issues right there.

 

[millerbleach]

Equality is what libs cry out for everyday, why fear it?

 

[millerbleach]

You want equal treatment, how about you start policing your own...that would stop a lot of the issues right there.

I'm not a moderator! No "police" license. Said I didn't want censorship didn't I?

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

Equality is what libs cry out for everyday, why fear it?

If you get what you want it would just be you and Scout and a bunch of liberals. And they don't respond to Scout, so it would literally be you vs. everyone else and I'm not sure you want your beliefs examined that closely. God forbid you might learn something...I doubt it, but maybe.

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

I'm not a moderator! No "police" license. Said I didn't want censorship didn't I?

You can tell them to knock it off when you know they're spouting BS or being ignorant for the sake of being ignorant.

If you don't want to be referred to as a turd in the punch bowl, quit being one.

 

[millerbleach]

I couldn't care less if you think i'm a turd in the punch bowl or anything else. You really don't have any people skills or manners in general. Why are the rules different for non libs?

 

[Gubbba Bump Shrimp]

I couldn't care less if you think i'm a turd in the punch bowl or anything else. You really don't have any people skills or manners in general. Why are the rules different for non libs?

I'll lose sleep over what a farmer with no education thinks of me.

So back to the point, why are Republicans bent on destroying the middle class?

 

[millerbleach]

They aren't and statements like that show why your opinion is not valued.

 

[Scout 4u]

Moderate...you mean someone who is trying to work for all the people, not just the right or left's special interests?

RINO Republican...
TRUMP was right to dump him.

 

[vbsideout]

Everything has a balance. You push that thing too far either way and you lose balance and I think that is a bad thing.

 

[Scout 4u]

Everything has a balance. You push that thing too far either way and you lose balance and I think that is a bad thing.

Of course it is a bad thing to take extremist views but who among you took us serious before the election?

As early as a month ago True Conservatives were thrown under the bus by the John McCains and Lindsey Grahams of the Republican Party.

Now that the American people have spoken, they want to "Compromise"?!?

As I have said for nearly a decade now...

We are not RINO Republicans, not Liberal Democrats, not the despicable Deplorable's the Leftist Media portrayed US as and not Obstructionist that shut down the government for fun.
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We are just Americans that have had enough...
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Underestimating US has now cost you nearly 90% of the State Legislatures in the country.

Underestimate Trump and we soon will own the White House.