Pre-emptive thread

[Sam Stone]

In anticipation of this weekend's results:

If _____________________ team wins their class, there is no way of determining if they would have won a larger class, but it is doubtful.

And if _________________ team wins their class, that doesn't necessarily mean that ____________________ was the 2nd best team, or ____________________________ was the 3rd best team, etc.


There. That should settle that.

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

If Jackson wins, they are the best in state and that's really not open for discussion.

Whomever wins Class 1 and 2 will have earned it fair and square. No asterisk.

Class 3 was ravaged by the 'rona. Sucks, but if there's an asterisk to be applied this is the class to do it in. Still, it was a very strong class this year.

Class 4 was most hurt by the 'evening out' of class sizes it seems. Lopped off too much to fill in Class 5 from a competition standpoint. Might take a few years to see some recovery.

 

[Cheetah King]

If Jackson wins, they are the best in state and that's really not open for discussion.

Whomever wins Class 1 and 2 will have earned it fair and square. No asterisk.

Class 3 was ravaged by the 'rona. Sucks, but if there's an asterisk to be applied this is the class to do it in. Still, it was a very strong class this year.

Class 4 was most hurt by the 'evening out' of class sizes it seems. Lopped off too much to fill in Class 5 from a competition standpoint. Might take a few years to see some recovery.

Agree 100%.

 

[JNreturns]

Yeah, NO...

Ray Pec Wins
WINS: #125 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) (23-0),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (35-32),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (24-17),
#280 Liberty (MO) (35-7),
#353 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) (42-34),
#407 Nixa (MO) (18-15),

Jackson's Wins

WINS: #488 Cardinal Ritter (St. Louis, MO) (56-32),
#661 Fort Zumwalt North (O'Fallon, MO) (49-14),
#883 Fox (Arnold, MO) (59-21),
No one else below 1,000

 

[Stryk3]

If Jackson wins, they are the best in state and that's really not open for discussion.

Whomever wins Class 1 and 2 will have earned it fair and square. No asterisk.

Class 3 was ravaged by the 'rona. Sucks, but if there's an asterisk to be applied this is the class to do it in. Still, it was a very strong class this year.

Class 4 was most hurt by the 'evening out' of class sizes it seems. Lopped off too much to fill in Class 5 from a competition standpoint. Might take a few years to see some recovery.

No Asterisk for any class! Everyone and every class has been affected....period. Teams that have survived this deserve everything they get.

 

[JNreturns]

If Jackson wins, they are the best in state and that's really not open for discussion.

Whomever wins Class 1 and 2 will have earned it fair and square. No asterisk.

Class 3 was ravaged by the 'rona. Sucks, but if there's an asterisk to be applied this is the class to do it in. Still, it was a very strong class this year.

Class 4 was most hurt by the 'evening out' of class sizes it seems. Lopped off too much to fill in Class 5 from a competition standpoint. Might take a few years to see some recovery.

Ummm NO

Yeah, NO...

Ray Pec Wins
WINS: #125 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) (23-0),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (35-32),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (24-17),
#280 Liberty (MO) (35-7),
#353 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) (42-34),
#407 Nixa (MO) (18-15),

Jackson's Wins

WINS: #488 Cardinal Ritter (St. Louis, MO) (56-32),
#661 Fort Zumwalt North (O'Fallon, MO) (49-14),
#883 Fox (Arnold, MO) (59-21),
No one else below 1,000

 

[TruthSerum]

Yeah, NO...

Ray Pec Wins
WINS: #125 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) (23-0),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (35-32),
#186 Liberty North (Liberty, MO) (24-17),
#280 Liberty (MO) (35-7),
#353 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) (42-34),
#407 Nixa (MO) (18-15),

Jackson's Wins

WINS: #488 Cardinal Ritter (St. Louis, MO) (56-32),
#661 Fort Zumwalt North (O'Fallon, MO) (49-14),
#883 Fox (Arnold, MO) (59-21),
No one else below 1,000

Ray Pec LOSSES:
#542 Lee’s Summit West (Lee's Summit, MO) (34-27)
#1283 Park Hill (Kansas City, MO) (19-13)

Jackson's LOSSES:
NONE

 

[JNreturns]

Ray Pec LOSSES:
#125 Lee’s Summit West (Lee's Summit, MO) (34-27)
#1283 Park Hill (Kansas City, MO) (19-13)

Jackson's LOSSES:
NONE

When you play a sissy schedule, of course you don't lose any.

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

When you play a sissy schedule, of course you don't lose any.

Of all the years to not use Calpreps as the definitive source, this one is it.

 

[TruthSerum]

When you play a sissy schedule, of course you don't lose any.

That’s right, all of Jackson’ opponents were girls’ teams. Forgot about that.
Understand, when you compete in a sparsely populated area, unlike KC, STL & SWMO area teams, it‘s always a problem finding opponents willing to play your team.

 

[Cheetah King]

Ray Pec LOSSES:
#542 Lee’s Summit West (Lee's Summit, MO) (34-27)
#1283 Park Hill (Kansas City, MO) (19-13)

Jackson's LOSSES:
NONE

This exactly. I 100% agree that Ray-Pec has played a better schedule but Jackson has barely broke a sweat this year,

 

[JNreturns]

That’s right, all of Jackson’ opponents were girls’ teams. Forgot about that.
Understand, when you compete in a sparsely populated area, unlike KC, STL & SWMO area teams, it‘s always a problem finding opponents willing to play your team.

And it is can be a real wake up call when you play a team that has played 6 teams better than anyone you have seen this year.

 

[JNreturns]

Of all the years to not use Calpreps as the definitive source, this one is it.

yeah...true Helias proved that. No business winning that game against Smithville. Extremely overrated.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

If Jackson wins, they are the best in state and that's really not open for discussion.

Whomever wins Class 1 and 2 will have earned it fair and square. No asterisk.

Class 3 was ravaged by the 'rona. Sucks, but if there's an asterisk to be applied this is the class to do it in. Still, it was a very strong class this year.

Class 4 was most hurt by the 'evening out' of class sizes it seems. Lopped off too much to fill in Class 5 from a competition standpoint. Might take a few years to see some recovery.

Only 2 that had a chance was St. Marys (lost to Lutheran North) and Odessa (beat SOBOCO 32-20 and BO beat them 42-21 and beat Maryville 28-14 and BO beat them 51-8). Not really the best class to put an asterisk on.

 

[TruthSerum]

And it is can be a real wake up call when you play a team that has played 6 teams better than anyone you have seen this year.

Correction: MAYBE ”6 teams better than anyone” Jackson has had a CHANCE TO PLAY this year.

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

Only 2 that had a chance was St. Marys (lost to Lutheran North) and Odessa (beat SOBOCO 32-20 and BO beat them 42-21 and beat Maryville 28-14 and BO beat them 51-8). Not really the best class to put an asterisk on.

Only class outside of Class 6 (St Louis) that lost anyone of note. The undefeated reigning champs are a HUGE asterisk. I also give Blair Oaks a ton of credit as their side of the bracket was daunting and they emerged. Class 3 was without a doubt the deepest class this year. Doesn't change the fact it was significantly weakened by COVID-19.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Only class outside of Class 6 (St Louis) that lost anyone of note. The undefeated reigning champs are a HUGE asterisk. I also give Blair Oaks a ton of credit as their side of the bracket was daunting and they emerged. Class 3 was without a doubt the deepest class this year. Doesn't change the fact it was significantly weakened by COVID-19.

If you have to take into account the teams that are playing in the Spring and not even in the hunt. That makes class 5 and 6 the ones with the biggest asterisks

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

If you have to take into account the teams that are playing in the Spring and not even in the hunt. That makes class 5 and 6 the ones with the biggest asterisks

Is there a defending champion in those classes scheduled to play this Spring?

 

[TruthSerum]

If Jackson played any teams as good as those you'd have a point, but they haven't played any.

Jackson beat 3 teams ranked above Park Hill and 1 team above LS West, so I had a point and I made it.

 

[shoot90draw]

I think Jackson needs to call up Colquitt County and schedule a game for next season

 

[bhunt95]

I think Jackson needs to call up Colquitt County and schedule a game for next season

Don't get that guy back on this board...

 

[BoosterBosko]

Don't get that guy back on this board...

Good lord. That guy was a bigger bozo than Joey AND MAGA!!

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Forget the "they don't play anybody" argument. Everybody start districts the same - win and advance, or lose and go home.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Is there a defending champion in those classes scheduled to play this Spring?

If you want to go there, Class 4 does not have the last 3 state champs in it this year

 

[Mofan79]

Good lord. That guy was a bigger bozo than Joey AND MAGA!!

Rush Propst records career win No. 300

First-year Valdosta High School head coach Rush Propst reached a career milestone Friday. Valdosta defeated Lovejoy, 52-14, in the first round of the Georgia state playoffs. The win is No. 300 in h…

volswire.usatoday.com

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

If you want to go there, Class 4 does not have the last 3 state champs in it this year

They were lost to realignment, not COVID. We're obviously not going to agree.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Rush Propst records career win No. 300

First-year Valdosta High School head coach Rush Propst reached a career milestone Friday. Valdosta defeated Lovejoy, 52-14, in the first round of the Georgia state playoffs. The win is No. 300 in h…

volswire.usatoday.com

WHO CARES!?

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

They were lost to realignment, not COVID. We're obviously not going to agree.

 

[bhunt95]

Rush Propst records career win No. 300

First-year Valdosta High School head coach Rush Propst reached a career milestone Friday. Valdosta defeated Lovejoy, 52-14, in the first round of the Georgia state playoffs. The win is No. 300 in h…

volswire.usatoday.com

Just curious. How you win a national title in High School.

Share this

Rush Propst records career win
Rush Propst’s career by the numbers

• Ashville High School (1989-93)
• Eufaula High School (1994-96)
• Alba High School (1997)
• Alma Bryant High School (1998)
• Hoover High School (1999-2007)
• Colquitt County High School (2008-18)
• UAB (2019, volunteer consultant)
• Valdosta High School (2020)

300-100 career record
139 players signed scholarships at Colquitt County (over 250 total players in career)
1 National championship (2015)
5 AHSAA Class 6A state championships (2000, 2002–2005)
2 GHSA Class 6A state championships (2014–2015: 30-game win streak)

 

[Mofan79]

WHO CARES!?

i'm pretty sure Rush Propst was orabidone...

 

[BoosterBosko]

i'm pretty sure Rush Propst was orabidone...

Someone actually once mentioned that there was a poster on a Georgia site who went by various forms of "o rabid one".......

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Someone actually once mentioned that there was a poster on a Georgia site who went by various forms of "o rabid one".......

And his pic was.......

 

[TruthSerum]

I wouldn't expect a citation.

I wouldn’t give you one if you had.

 

[O line wins games]

They were lost to realignment, not COVID. We're obviously not going to agree.

But they were actually realigned due to the states new balancing act, combined with the number of schools that opted for spring pulling schools up. PC would still have been class 4 and more than likely will be next. Webb City is going to be really close to going back down to four as well. So, you could make the argument relatively easily that they were in fact lost to 'Rona.

 

[Mofan79]

But they were actually realigned due to the states new balancing act, combined with the number of schools that opted for spring pulling schools up. PC would still have been class 4 and more than likely will be next. Webb City is going to be really close to going back down to four as well. So, you could make the argument relatively easily that they were in fact lost to 'Rona.

I don't have the numbers in front of me but something like 15 teams got moved into class 5 this year from just the realignment if Webb was in the top quarter of 4 ( pretty sure they were) there is a good chance they will stay in 5

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

I don't have the numbers in front of me but something like 15 teams got moved into class 5 this year from just the realignment if Webb was in the top quarter of 4 ( pretty sure they were) there is a good chance they will stay in 5

Not sure on PC, but Webb is solidly C5. I'll concede PC would have done well in C4. I'll also stick to C3 being impacted more. It's subjective.

 

[Cheetah King]

If Jackson played any teams as good as those you'd have a point.
[/QU

Not sure on PC, but Webb is solidly C5. I'll concede PC would have done well in C4. I'll also stick to C3 being impacted more. It's subjective.

the framework was changed pre-Covid. I’m sure a few teams got bumped up due to teams opting out

 

[Arcola]

C’est moi.

Peter Quill

 

[Arcola]

Tu es?

Tu es?

 

[freezeoption]

Celesvie