Muslim in the White House

[wcowherd]

With people like you voting, I wouldn't doubt it

Yes, I'm very much inclined to vote for a member of Isis as president of the United States...

 

[ag-man]

Yes, I'm very much inclined to vote for a member of Isis as president of the United States...

You have bragged up the average Muslim, and said most anyone is better than Huckabee.
A good God fearing Christian man versus your average Muslim. You said it.

 

[ag-man]

Ag man. Seems you only stereotype chosen religious groups. You must be miserable.

Nope, I'm good.

I have my beliefs and morals, from the good bible.

Where do you get yours?

 

[ag-man]

You never answered me cow, how many people has Mike Huckabee beheaded in the name of Christianity ?

How many people have been beheaded in the last 6 months in the name of Islam?

Yea, I would rather a Muslim be running our country instead of Mike.

 

[Duck_walk]

From my Heroes Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Dave Letterman, Michael Moore, and Keith Olbermann.

 

[ag-man]

Shakes head, goes to bed.

 

[The Rumor]

You would rather have a Muslim be president than Mike Huckabee????

How many people has Mike Huckabee beheaded????

How many people has the average American Muslim beheaded???

The caricature of US-based Muslims in this thread is depressing.

 

[The Rumor]

You have bragged up the average Muslim, and said most anyone is better than Huckabee.
A good God fearing Christian man versus your average Muslim. You said it.

considering huckabee is about as far as you can get from me on most issues, I can't really disagree with him. He is a nice man, and I don't doubt he is a devout person who is good to his family and his community, but his political beliefs consist of cramming the evangelical faith down my throat and pushing for right wing economic populism. No thanks

 

[The Rumor]

You never answered me cow, how many people has Mike Huckabee beheaded in the name of Christianity ?

How many people have been beheaded in the last 6 months in the name of Islam?

Yea, I would rather a Muslim be running our country instead of Mike.

Dude you are beating the straw man to death. The choice isn't a member of ISIS or mike huckabee. Stop pretending that it is.

 

[The Rumor]

People try to say most Muslims are peaceful people and it's the radical Muslims that give them a bad name. In fact if they truly believe in the Koran there is no way to be peaceful. I don't know all the teachings of the Koran by any means, but from what I have read ISIS is living out the TRUE Islamic belief system. Those folks are destroying ancient artifacts they claim are blasphemy to their reglion. They don't care about anything or anyone but their beliefs, nor do they care about survival. Their end game IS the end of the world. I have NO doubt they would love to get someone in position of power in our country. Not sure if ISIS has the patience to do it that way but the Iranians do.

ooh, the Muslimchurian candidate comes from Iran, good call to use a name brand country, it will help you sell the movie script.

To be a little more serious, there are plenty of militant Islamic fanatics in the world, no one is denying that, but they are not a major group in the Islamic community in the US.

 

[The Rumor]

Yes, I'm very much inclined to vote for a member of Isis as president of the United States...

I knew it! Cowherds for Baghdadi 2016

 

[vbsideout]

Constitution No religious test shall ever be required to run for elected office. End of debate! Obama was called the Devil and Hitler, not to mention a Muslim but was allowed to run and he won twice. That's called democracy. That's why Huckabee is allowed to run. He believes his religious beliefs supercede the Supreme Court. We shall see if he wins like the Muslim Obama did.

 

[wcowherd]

You never answered me cow, how many people has Mike Huckabee beheaded in the name of Christianity ?

How many people have been beheaded in the last 6 months in the name of Islam?

Yea, I would rather a Muslim be running our country instead of Mike.

That's such a straw man argument. It's like saying how could you want a Christian in the Oval Office? Look at the terrible things perpetrated by Christians.

 

[3Rfan]

ooh, the Muslimchurian candidate comes from Iran, good call to use a name brand country, it will help you sell the movie script.

To be a little more serious, there are plenty of militant Islamic fanatics in the world, no one is denying that, but they are not a major group in the Islamic community in the US.

If they chose, or have chosen, someone to run for president someday I'm pretty sure he wont be proclaiming he is an ISIS supporter or has been sent by the Clerics in Iran. That would pretty much defeat the purpose of being here.

 

[millerbleach]

Constitution No religious test shall ever be required to run for elected office. End of debate!

Who has said a Muslim can't RUN for office? New end of debate.

 

[wcowherd]

I doubt many people who are islamophobic have ever actually met a Muslim.

 

[ag-man]

I doubt many people who are islamophobic have ever actually met a Muslim.

Wouldn't know, I probably have, although being Muslim and being gay are a lot alike. Most people don't want to admit to it. And with good reason.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Wouldn't know, I probably have, although being Muslim and being gay are a lot alike. Most people don't want to admit to it. And with good reason.

you need to come to the big city once in awhile

 

[Neutron Monster]

I doubt many people who are islamophobic have ever actually met a Muslim.

I think this is a big part of it

 

[Neutron Monster]

If they chose, or have chosen, someone to run for president someday I'm pretty sure he wont be proclaiming he is an ISIS supporter or has been sent by the Clerics in Iran. That would pretty much defeat the purpose of being here.

This is tin foil hat quality, 3R. The idea that someone is going to find a natural born American sleeper and somehow get them to be President is crazy.

For one, anyone who is actually Muslim currently has no chance to be President - the plot makes no sense to anyone with half a brain. America may have been ready to elect a black man and it may be ready to elect a woman, but it likely isn't ready to elect a Muslim, especially when you consider there are no truly prominent Muslims who could possibly be elected now.

Further, there are so many easier things to do. If someone wants to damage the US, they can just get a gun and shoot some people. They can build a bomb like those guys in Boston. They can wage electronic war on us like China does. Etc. No one serious is going to waste time and resources on this stupid of a plot.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Who has said a Muslim can't RUN for office? New end of debate.

That's not what the Constitution actually says, it doesn't speak about being eligible to run.

Way to not end anything. And you're supposed to represent the party with a boner for the Constitution.

 

[3Rfan]

This is tin foil hat quality, 3R. The idea that someone is going to find a natural born American sleeper and somehow get them to be President is crazy.

For one, anyone who is actually Muslim currently has no chance to be President - the plot makes no sense to anyone with half a brain. America may have been ready to elect a black man and it may be ready to elect a woman, but it likely isn't ready to elect a Muslim, especially when you consider there are no truly prominent Muslims who could possibly be elected now.

Further, there are so many easier things to do. If someone wants to damage the US, they can just get a gun and shoot some people. They can build a bomb like those guys in Boston. They can wage electronic war on us like China does. Etc. No one serious is going to waste time and resources on this stupid of a plot.

When did I say it would be soon, or even in my lifetime? I said they are a very patient people and would have no problem biding their time to get someone in a position of power.

 

[ag-man]

you need to come to the big city once in awhile

No thanks NM, I have been there enough.

 

[Neutron Monster]

When did I say it would be soon, or even in my lifetime? I said they are a very patient people and would have no problem biding their time to get someone in a position of power.

You've learned from organized religion - if you give yourself an infinite timeframe no one can ever prove you are wrong

 

[3Rfan]

You've learned from organized religion - if you give yourself an infinite timeframe no one can ever prove you are wrong

I can't prove I'm right and you can't prove I'm wrong no matter how long we wait, unless it would actually happen. I did NOT say it WOULD happen. I said they are patient enough to give it ago. The person, or persons, could already be here. How long was the 9/11 attack in the planning stages, then in making it happen? They took the chance those guys would not be deported because they overstayed their visa and it worked.

 

[Neutron Monster]

I can't prove I'm right and you can't prove I'm wrong no matter how long we wait, unless it would actually happen. I did NOT say it WOULD happen. I said they are patient enough to give it ago. The person, or persons, could already be here. How long was the 9/11 attack in the planning stages, then in making it happen? They took the chance those guys would not be deported because they overstayed their visa and it worked.

The 9/11 attack was carried out by 19 people ineligible to be President.

And the 9/11 attack had a lot more opportunity - nearly 2 million people board a flight in the US every day. Anyone can get on a plane. 1 person is elected President every four years. That person is selected from a group of, what, 400 people who have any realistic chance at winning after extensive vetting.

The idea you have presented is not something that should be taken seriously.

 

[wcowherd]

Wouldn't know, I probably have, although being Muslim and being gay are a lot alike. Most people don't want to admit to it. And with good reason.

A) That's not true.

B) If it was, it would undoubtably be because they're tired of dealing with ignorant people.

 

[millerbleach]

Constitution No religious test shall ever be required to run for elected office. End of debate!

Who has said a Muslim can't RUN for office? New end of debate.

That's not what the Constitution actually says, it doesn't speak about being eligible to run.

Way to not end anything. And you're supposed to represent the party with a boner for the Constitution.

Who is saying we should violate the Constitution?
No one has said a Muslim CAN'T be elected. It has been said we SHOULDN'T elect one.

 

[vbsideout]

I thought our Pres. was a Muslim

 

[ag-man]

I thought our Pres. was a Muslim

You certainly could be correct on that VB, the way he acts, signs are pointing that way. I hate to think so, I didn't want to believe it, but look at the way our country has gone to hell under his leadership.

We are actually bitching at Ben Carson for saying he didn't want a Muslim in the White House. Think about that!!!!
JFK would be rolling over in his grave.

 

[Duck_walk]

You certainly could be correct on that VB, the way he acts, signs are pointing that way. I hate to think so, I didn't want to believe it, but look at the way our country has gone to hell under his leadership.

We are actually bitching at Ben Carson for saying he didn't want a Muslim in the White House. Think about that!!!!
JFK would be rolling over in his grave.

Now YOU are speaking for JFK??

OMG.

 

[wcowherd]

You certainly could be correct on that VB, the way he acts, signs are pointing that way. I hate to think so, I didn't want to believe it, but look at the way our country has gone to hell under his leadership.

We are actually bitching at Ben Carson for saying he didn't want a Muslim in the White House. Think about that!!!!
JFK would be rolling over in his grave.

He certainly would be. Wasn't that long ago he had to defend his faith as well.

 

[vbsideout]

You certainly could be correct on that VB, the way he acts, signs are pointing that way. I hate to think so, I didn't want to believe it, but look at the way our country has gone to hell under his leadership.

We are actually bitching at Ben Carson for saying he didn't want a Muslim in the White House. Think about that!!!!
JFK would be rolling over in his grave.

Only if Marilyn was in there with him

 

[Neutron Monster]

You certainly could be correct on that VB, the way he acts, signs are pointing that way. I hate to think so, I didn't want to believe it, but look at the way our country has gone to hell under his leadership.

We are actually bitching at Ben Carson for saying he didn't want a Muslim in the White House. Think about that!!!!
JFK would be rolling over in his grave.

does that mean GW bush is a Muslim as well? Because he tanked the economy and budget harder than anyone since Hoover.

Also...you know JFK's religion was a major campaign issue, right? You're not making the point you think you're making.

 

[ag-man]

does that mean GW bush is a Muslim as well? Because he tanked the economy and budget harder than anyone since Hoover.

Also...you know JFK's religion was a major campaign issue, right? You're not making the point you think you're making.

Yes, I know it was, and even he would disapprove of a muslim in the WH.

 

[Neutron Monster]

that's impressive that you know what JFK would be thinking in 2015.

 

[ag-man]

that's impressive that you know what JFK would be thinking in 2015.

Thanks.

Do you really think a Christian, be they Methodist, Baptist, Catholic or any other would approve of someone running this country that does not believe Jesus was the son of God?

 

[wcowherd]

Thanks.

Do you really think a Christian, be they Methodist, Baptist, Catholic or any other would approve of someone running this country that does not believe Jesus was the son of God?

...yes? What does being a Christian have to do with being a good president?

Do you think Mormons are Christian? Did you vote for mitt Romney?

 

[ag-man]

...yes? What does being a Christian have to do with being a good president?

Do you think Mormons are Christian? Did you vote for mitt Romney?

Do your own research if you don't know the answer to these questions. You are a smart man on a lot of topics cow, it shouldn't be too hard for you to figure out.

 

[wcowherd]

Do your own research if you don't know the answer to these questions. You are a smart man on a lot of topics cow, it shouldn't be too hard for you to figure out.

I have my opinions about them. That's why I'm asking you.