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I’m not going to name them. One was my doctor for two yrs and one was an ER doc at St Luke’s East. They said is someone like me (mid 40s and reasonably good health and active) got it and actually showed symptoms, it would most likely present as a cold or influenza A (at the worst). They both said basically the same thing, take precautions. And both agreed shutting things down was stupid. Both were pretty quick to mention that if those at risk didn’t take precautions, that the empty hospitals (this was back in June) would fill up pretty quickly. Which I assume is what you see now. Have a couple fam workers that work at a hospital with 50 vents. 42 are currently in use. All 42, yes, every single one, meet the 70% criteria.

I got this thing October 27, still don't feel very well, but it hasn't made me feel any worse than the flu I had in 1961 and 1962, Four other members of my family have had it and are doing fine including my wife. I am 72 years old and hope to shake the thing that seems to be in my lungs. I do know that my peer group has been more affected than younger folks, but it seems to be different for nearly every individual.
 
I’m not going to name them. One was my doctor for two yrs and one was an ER doc at St Luke’s East. They said is someone like me (mid 40s and reasonably good health and active) got it and actually showed symptoms, it would most likely present as a cold or influenza A (at the worst). They both said basically the same thing, take precautions. And both agreed shutting things down was stupid. Both were pretty quick to mention that if those at risk didn’t take precautions, that the empty hospitals (this was back in June) would fill up pretty quickly. Which I assume is what you see now. Have a couple fam workers that work at a hospital with 50 vents. 42 are currently in use. All 42, yes, every single one, meet the 70% criteria.

After being diagnosed they gave us no help as far as treatment. We went through it at home and took zinc and elderberry supplements as the only thing other than Nyquil severe that we took.
 
Well then let's line up every kid and let them get it and see if they live. Piggy better watch out.
 
We have been wearing masks, social distancing and canceling events for 9 months and there are more cases than ever. It won’t stop the virus. The only thing(s) that are going to stop the virus is herd immunity and/or a vaccine. Have the high risk population be extremely careful, let the rest of the population live their lives
teacher at the high school is infected with covid, she goes to class thinking she just has a mild cold, no fever. She infects several students and teachers, mask at the school are optional for students and teachers. One of the students infected goes home and infects his mother and father, mother goes to work in her office, she didn't feel well but goes to work anyway, like you she believes mask are infringing on her rights. She infects 3 co-workers one of those infected co workers infects her 47 year old husband, before this no serious health issues. Three weeks later he passes away at Barnes Hospital. How did that herd immunity work out for him. Maybe you could explain to his family the herd immunity. It all started with people just living their lives and not following what is recommended by the CDC, well, the good news is the careless people all recovered.
 
It is tragic when anyone dies. But it doesn’t change the fact that COVID will not go away until herd immunity and/or a vaccine. All the masks and social distancing will not change that fact. I hope everyone stays healthy
 
Very sorry to hear about Trenton Johnson. That is beyond sad, condolences to the family and all who knew him.
 
RIP Coach Denny Chenoweth, former Neosho Coach
He passed away this morning after a 3 week battle with Covid. He was a good man and coach. He will be missed.
 
As Karl-Anthony Towns prepares to begin his sixth season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, he said he also is continuing to process the death of his mother, Jacqueline Cruz-Towns, and six other family members who also died of complications from the coronavirus.

Just thought I would add this. I don't believe Towns thinks the virus is not a big deal. Very sad to lose so much!
 
As Karl-Anthony Towns prepares to begin his sixth season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, he said he also is continuing to process the death of his mother, Jacqueline Cruz-Towns, and six other family members who also died of complications from the coronavirus.

Just thought I would add this. I don't believe Towns thinks the virus is not a big deal. Very sad to lose so much!
More than 50,000 people under the age of 65 have died from covid-19, over 275,000 in the country and rising, that may not seem like a lot to some people until it's your family member.
A covid denier told me the other day he was entitled to his own opinion. I told him, "You are not entitled to your own opinion. You are entitled to your own informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." We have way to much ignorance.
 
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More than 50,000 people under the age of 65 have died from covid-19, over 275,000 in the country and rising, that may not seem like a lot to some people until it's your family member.
A covid denier told me the other day he was entitled to his own opinion. I told him, "You are not entitled to your own opinion. You are entitled to your own informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." We have way to much ignorance.
With, not from. You Rona bros struggle to understand that difference. I’m not sure anyone on here has ever said it’s not a big deal. It’s just not the killer virus it is being portrayed as for about 99.9% of the population.
 
With, not from. You Rona bros struggle to understand that difference. I’m not sure anyone on here has ever said it’s not a big deal. It’s just not the killer virus it is being portrayed as for about 99.9% of the population.
I just spent 6 days in icu. Covid was involved.
You're simply ignorant and politicizing it.
Grow up
 
I just spent 6 days in icu. Covid was involved.
You're simply ignorant and politicizing it.
Grow up
And I’m guessing are fine now? Why would I politicize it? I’m not a Trump supporter at all. My point is, and always has been, the media ran with this. If it bleeds it leads. It’s nasty. But not nasty enough to keep millions of kids out of school or shut the doors of small businesses around the country. My viewpoint has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with common sense.
 
And I’m guessing are fine now? Why would I politicize it? I’m not a Trump supporter at all. My point is, and always has been, the media ran with this. If it bleeds it leads. It’s nasty. But not nasty enough to keep millions of kids out of school or shut the doors of small businesses around the country. My viewpoint has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with common sense.
Kids are in school due to politics and parents not wanting to deal with them.
Gop banned in person meeting this week but its safe for 50 and 60 year old teachers to carry on?
This pandemic is about to blow up.

As for being fine now..not really. You dont just get over this.
 
Kids are in school due to politics and parents not wanting to deal with them.
Gop banned in person meeting this week but its safe for 50 and 60 year old teachers to carry on?
This pandemic is about to blow up.

As for being fine now..not really. You dont just get over this.
No, kids are in school because that’s where kids should be. If 50 and 60 yr old at risk teachers are worried, then they should stay home and take precautions. I’ve got a couple 65+ relatives. Had the sniffles for a few days and a cough. All better now. Different for a lot of people. Not enough to retard the growth and education of millions of young people.

Hope you make a full recovery soon. Being sick, like truly sick, sucks. And that’s no tongue-in-cheek statement. I get this thing makes some really sick.
 
With, not from. You Rona bros struggle to understand that difference. I’m not sure anyone on here has ever said it’s not a big deal. It’s just not the killer virus it is being portrayed as for about 99.9% of the population.
The cause of death on the death certificate reads Covid-19 not with Covid-19. I don't think you understand.
It proves my point, to much ignorance
 
I have been sick with COVID for the last month. My wife and son have had it. My brother and his wife had it. My grandfather died from it. I have two cousins who died from it (one today). And many others that I know that have been hospitalized. I wear a mask everywhere I go.

However, the one thing that I realize is that this is a contagious virus. Masks are not the solution. They only can do so much. If you are truly scared of the virus, STAY HOME. Don't have anyone come over. Otherwise, unless you completely isolate yourself, there is a very good chance you will get COVID.

For kids, isolation is WORSE than COVID. The mental problems that the isolation has caused have caused countless more deaths than COVID. The risks of COVID are much lower than the risks of suicide. Yes, there are stories of school age kids dying from COVID, but that is rare. Unfortunately, suicides are not and the problem has only gotten worse this year.

This year has been really tough for me personally because of the impact COVID has had on me and my family. But it has not impacted my ability to think critically or to have empathy.

I think that too many people have lost common sense. Too many people have made this political. The government can only do so much. It is not the government's fault that people are dying. It is a deadly virus that is contagious. No amount of government intervention is going to stop it. When you look at the stats, countries that have had strict lockdowns are having just as bad of problems as countries who haven't. And wearing a mask is not taking away your freedom. Just like wearing a seat belt doesn't.

Lastly, I am tired of people that spout, "BUT SCIENCE". Most of you that say that have no understanding of science, hypothesis testing or statistics. You are pretty much just parroting the mainstream media and really don't know what the science actually says.
 
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I have been sick with COVID for the last month. My wife and son have had it. My brother and his wife had it. My grandfather died from it. I have two cousins who died from it (one today). And many others that I know that have been hospitalized. I wear a mask everywhere I go.

However, the one thing that I realize is that this is a contagious virus. Masks are not the solution. They only can do so much. If you are truly scared of the virus, STAY HOME. Don't have anyone come over. Otherwise, unless you completely isolate yourself, there is a very good chance you will get COVID.

For kids, isolation is WORSE than COVID. The mental problems that the isolation has caused have caused countless more deaths than COVID. The risks of COVID are much lower than the risks of suicide. Yes, there are stories of school age kids dying from COVID, but that is rare. Unfortunately, suicides are not and the problem has only gotten worse this year.

This year has been really tough for me personally because of the impact COVID has had on me and my family. But it has not impacted my ability to think critically or to have empathy.

I think that too many people have lost common sense. Too many people have made this political. The government can only do so much. It is not the government's fault that people are dying. It is a deadly virus that is contagious. No amount of government intervention is going to stop it. When you look at the stats, countries that have had strict lockdowns are having just as bad of problems as countries who haven't. And wearing a mask is not taking away your freedom. Just like wearing a seat belt doesn't.

Lastly, I am tired of people that spout, "BUT SCIENCE". Most of you that say that have no understanding of science, hypothesis testing or statistics. You are pretty much just parroting the mainstream media and really don't know what the science actually says.
Wish I could like this a million times. It echos my thoughts. Sorry for you and you families losses. No doubt it’s nasty for some, and felt by most.
 
Wish I could like this a million times. It echos my thoughts. Sorry for you and you families losses. No doubt it’s nasty for some, and felt by most.
Interesting conversation Eagles Ball. So many unknowns and its a shame its been politicized in a world where media doesn't promote unbiased information anymore. We all want our loved ones to be healthy. We need to protect our sick and elderly and we want the best for our kids. I can tell you that in our situation the virus isn't spread really at school. We control our environment and in our community kids don't learn virtually very well. If parents don't work they can't pay their rent/mortgage. If they go to work they have no one to watch elementary and middle school kids at home. Its a conundrum. Mental and emotional health is majorly at risk w/ mandatory shutdowns. Americans don't like to be told they can't be social. Its one big mess. And the new administration will let china off the hook for this awful period in our history. I see both sides of this topic.
 
Interesting conversation Eagles Ball. So many unknowns and its a shame its been politicized in a world where media doesn't promote unbiased information anymore. We all want our loved ones to be healthy. We need to protect our sick and elderly and we want the best for our kids. I can tell you that in our situation the virus isn't spread really at school. We control our environment and in our community kids don't learn virtually very well. If parents don't work they can't pay their rent/mortgage. If they go to work they have no one to watch elementary and middle school kids at home. Its a conundrum. Mental and emotional health is majorly at risk w/ mandatory shutdowns. Americans don't like to be told they can't be social. Its one big mess. And the new administration will let china off the hook for this awful period in our history. I see both sides of this topic.
I'm just curious, what has the current administration done about China? Trump praised China over 15 times from January through February about their response to the virus. I don't think you see both sides, the virus is spreading at our schools you need to get informed.
 
I'm just curious, what has the current administration done about China? Trump praised China over 15 times from January through February about their response to the virus. I don't think you see both sides, the virus is spreading at our schools you need to get informed.
Well of course it's spreading, that's what a virus does. Kids get sick, and then they get better. Yes, a few have died. Death is tragic. And in the cases, pretty much inevitable.
 
Well of course it's spreading, that's what a virus does. Kids get sick, and then they get better. Yes, a few have died. Death is tragic. And in the cases, pretty much inevitable.
Let's see the definition of inevitable is "incapable of being avoided or prevented" I won't list the precautions you can take to help keep the virus from spreading because you would ignore them anyway. I won't give you the estimates of how many lives could have been saved by following those precautions, because it wouldn't matter.
Definition of ignorance "lack of knowledge or information" what's so sad is people have the knowledge and information and chose ignore them, that's also the definition of ignorance.
 
Let's see the definition of inevitable is "incapable of being avoided or prevented" I won't list the precautions you can take to help keep the virus from spreading because you would ignore them anyway. I won't give you the estimates of how many lives could have been saved by following those precautions, because it wouldn't matter.
Definition of ignorance "lack of knowledge or information" what's so sad is people have the knowledge and information and chose ignore them, that's also the definition of ignorance.
I don't ignore them. I practice them regularly. I have to...As have millions of Americans. Yet, the virus is still, you know, spreading. Of course, I'm guessing your answer to that is it's only spreading because of those not taking precautions.
 
I don't ignore them. I practice them regularly. I have to...As have millions of Americans. Yet, the virus is still, you know, spreading. Of course, I'm guessing your answer to that is it's only spreading because of those not taking precautions.
Yes, how else is it spreading.
 
I guess what your saying is you live in a free society and you you have the right to infect anyone you want. if you had 257,000 teens die this year in car accidents you might want to restrict their driving. The real BS is people like you and your ignorance.

You have no expertise to offer. Need to close the old pie hole.
 
If you think masks aren't effective then you should be demanding they not be worn during surgeries and go get one where no one in the room is wearing a mask just to prove it ...
 
Listened to an interview today of a Physician who teaches at Harvard School of Medicine. His opinion was masks and social distancing do very little to stop the spread of COVID. His opinion was that COVID will not stop until we achieve herd immunity and a vaccine. Stated that is how all viruses are eventually controlled. Did state high risk individuals should limit their interactions with crowds.

I guess he is blissfully ignorant as well
 
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Listened to an interview today of a Physician who teaches at Harvard School of Medicine. His opinion was masks and social distancing do very little to stop the spread of COVID. His opinion was that COVID will not stop until we achieve herd immunity and a vaccine. Stated that is how all viruses are eventually controlled. Did state high risk individuals should limit their interactions with crowds.

I guess he is blissfully ignorant as well
Name?
 
I don't ignore them. I practice them regularly. I have to...As have millions of Americans. Yet, the virus is still, you know, spreading. Of course, I'm guessing your answer to that is it's only spreading because of those not taking precautions.
Maybe it's spreading because so many do NOT use those precautions enough. In Washington State 7 old guys in a long term facilities got it and died. Yes they were old and probably had underlying conditions but the reason they got it was because several staff members there went to a wedding with 300 guests in attendance and went to work. I have no idea how long the old boys would have lived, I just know they are living no longer.
 
Listened to an interview today of a Physician who teaches at Harvard School of Medicine. His opinion was masks and social distancing do very little to stop the spread of COVID. His opinion was that COVID will not stop until we achieve herd immunity and a vaccine. Stated that is how all viruses are eventually controlled. Did state high risk individuals should limit their interactions with crowds.

I guess he is blissfully ignorant as well
I assume your talking about the Great Barrington Declaration. Kulldorff was one of the authors. You said you heard an interview, I suggest you read the paper. Most of the response to his views are "ridiculous," "total nonsense," "very dangerous." his view would lead to a large number of avoidable deaths. Your right, I would call that blissfully ignorant.
 
I am sure you know more than he does. How long have you taught at Harvard School of Medicine
 
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