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The Missouri football coaches association is polling its members to whether they should request moving football to the spring.
 
They won't give us spring. He'll not all the coaches could follow our own associations suggestions on what do for summer.
 
Spring is not an option for small schools that rely on multi-sport athletes. The spring sports lost their seasons this year. It wouldn't seem just to take their seasons again even though football is my preferred sport.
 
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If football was moved to the spring it would be a shortened season and then the spring sports would also have a shortened Season After that lasting through June.
 
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If football was moved to the spring it would be a shortened season and then the spring sports would also have a shortened Season After that lasting through June.
This is what Colorado is going to do. 7 week fb season in March-April and still have spring sports after.
 
This is what Colorado is going to do. 7 week fb season in March-April and still have spring sports after.

Virginia will be starting in Feb and playing a 5-6 regular season with playoffs.

My son is a private school kid in VA and they are looking at a 7 game season with no playoffs. Private and public don’t compete here for conference or state titles.

I think they will be playing other private schools in our area only with no travel to Richmond or the beach. Which is fine since there are a few national powers here.
 
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Yes they will have to adjust everything. But here is the question, if we don't have a vaccine then we may not have the winter season. Basketball and wrestling are just as close contact as football.
 
Yes they will have to adjust everything. But here is the question, if we don't have a vaccine then we may not have the winter season. Basketball and wrestling are just as close contact as football.
Most of the "experts" are saying not to expect much over a 50% effective rate from any early vaccine. That means most kids in high school today may not have sports in their high school careers. Colleges likewise may cancel all sports, release all coaches and support staffs, close all residence halls and reduce tuition for all of the online students..
 
Most of the "experts" are saying not to expect much over a 50% effective rate from any early vaccine. That means most kids in high school today may not have sports in their high school careers. Colleges likewise may cancel all sports, release all coaches and support staffs, close all residence halls and reduce tuition for all of the online students..
Sounds like you're a bit of an alarmist
 
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Current flu vaccine is approx. 45% - 50% effective. By pinning all subsequent activities and their participation on a vaccine, you're merely determining an acceptable risk. Considering the serious lack of facts regarding COVID, what is the acceptable risk, right now? Now, I understand that what we're seeing, right now is the scientific method, at work. Decisions that affect our way of life and the ability for many to feed their families are being made based on the moving metrics of the "scientific method". Throw some politicizing into that process and you find yourself right were we are. If you don't think this "pandemic" is based on the upcoming election and its continued existence will be greatly determined by who wins, you might be a bit naive.
 
So far this seems to be following a similar pattern of how things happened in the spring with lock-downs and canceling everything. The usual suspects like California are quick to cut the legs off the table. That opens the door to other more moderate states or municipalities follow suit. Then eventually places like Missouri more or less have to jump on the bandwagon because no one wants to be the reckless maverick that isn't taking it 'seriously'. Because then every person that gets sick or dies will be blamed on this leader or that not "doing enough".
 
Basketball is not as long as people think. It’s the only sport that has to take time off for two major holidays
Not much time at all.. No real time off at Thanksgiving, and games normally scheduled up to the 23rd of Dec and fire right back up Dec 26th
 
Current flu vaccine is approx. 45% - 50% effective. By pinning all subsequent activities and their participation on a vaccine, you're merely determining an acceptable risk. Considering the serious lack of facts regarding COVID, what is the acceptable risk, right now? Now, I understand that what we're seeing, right now is the scientific method, at work. Decisions that affect our way of life and the ability for many to feed their families are being made based on the moving metrics of the "scientific method". Throw some politicizing into that process and you find yourself right were we are. If you don't think this "pandemic" is based on the upcoming election and its continued existence will be greatly determined by who wins, you might be a bit naive.
Cuckoo
 
Sounds like you're a bit of an alarmist
Obviously you failed to note my tongue in check tone, but how I really feel is very similar to what LHSTiger81 posted which you called cuckoo.
More succinctly, at what point will it be "safe enough", how long will it take us to get there and who gets to make that call? When will we have a vaccine, what if the effective rate is only 50% of those who receive it, how many will refuse to take the vaccine; what, if any, will be the effects of herd immunity, what are the ramifications of individual genetic makeup, what is the significance of those whose T cells already recognize the Covid virus when it is a supposedly a "novel" virus, is the amount of viral material you are exposed to important or not, are eye goggles actually more protective than masks, what if the antibodies developed from infection only last three or four months and how long will they last from an administered vaccine???????????????????? The litany of questions goes on and on and until we have some answers with more consensus from the medical community (not pols and not media hacks) then anything is possible, including my grim suggestion.
 
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at what point will it be "safe enough"
That's the question I can't get over. At what point are we "safe"? And what does "safe" even mean? It just makes me cringe every time I hear that and several other buzzwords.

It's like a place I was at a few weeks ago where you had to wait in line... but they had the waiting area taped off "for your safety". So the result was that everyone still had to wait in a packed line, but now it was blocking a public walkway creating a congested space for those people PLUS everyone that had to walk past that place. Or the fast food restaurants saying it's "safe" to come inside and order, but it's not safe to use restrooms or sit at a table. Just so many dumb things I've seen in the name of "stay safe".
 
The mixed messages from the US government have made this very frustrating. However, you can catch up academically. You can recover financially. But you can’t fix dead.

You're right, but who is most susceptible? Why can't we determine that? So, once again, what is the acceptable number of deaths. Apparently, the 34,200 who died from the flu in 2019 and the 24,000 who have died, so far in 2020, from the flu is an acceptable number based on availability of a vaccine and its effectiveness. So, the acceptable number of deaths also changes when it is due to other circumstances... 3000 abortions per day... acceptable why? 37,000 deaths attributed to the increase in speed limit... so, those deaths are an acceptable number for getting from point A to point B faster.
 
IDK. But we have had 164,000 in 6 months.
If we had gone to masks in February and did it religiously all over the country that number would be significantly lower. I drove by the grocery store earlier and saw about 10 people walk out with masks on and none of them were hurting. It’s really not that hard.
From Mr.Sulu.
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IDK. But we have had 164,000 in 6 months.
If we had gone to masks in February and did it religiously all over the country that number would be significantly lower. I drove by the grocery store earlier and saw about 10 people walk out with masks on and none of them were hurting. It’s really not that hard.
No it's not hard and it doesn't make sense to me why people reject what seems to be such a simple and common sense practice. (Or at least it was common sense until it became a political statement.)

But at the end of the day there WILL be deaths and what makes this all frustrating for me is that the acceptable number appears to be zero in the eyes of many. And that's an impossible benchmark to strive towards before we can live our lives.
 
No it's not hard and it doesn't make sense to me why people reject what seems to be such a simple and common sense practice. (Or at least it was common sense until it became a political statement.)

But at the end of the day there WILL be deaths and what makes this all frustrating for me is that the acceptable number appears to be zero in the eyes of many. And that's an impossible benchmark to strive towards before we can live our lives.
Btw I actually heard someone the other day "I would wear a mask but I don't want people to think I'm a democrat". OMG
 
No it's not hard and it doesn't make sense to me why people reject what seems to be such a simple and common sense practice. (Or at least it was common sense until it became a political statement.)

But at the end of the day there WILL be deaths and what makes this all frustrating for me is that the acceptable number appears to be zero in the eyes of many. And that's an impossible benchmark to strive towards before we can live our lives.
We lost 3 to 4k on 9 11. That caused us to spend trillions in money and thousands of lives lost. We also completely changed our way of life

Guess 160k tops that. Itll be 200k plus by election day because its not getting better
 
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Most of the "experts" are saying not to expect much over a 50% effective rate from any early vaccine. That means most kids in high school today may not have sports in their high school careers. Colleges likewise may cancel all sports, release all coaches and support staffs, close all residence halls and reduce tuition for all of the online students..
Most of the studies have also shown that the infection rate for high school aged kids are very low. This is a very pessimistic attitude that is not grounded in reality.
 
IDK. But we have had 164,000 in 6 months.
If we had gone to masks in February and did it religiously all over the country that number would be significantly lower. I drove by the grocery store earlier and saw about 10 people walk out with masks on and none of them were hurting. It’s really not that hard.
Median age for death with COVID: 77. 40% of deaths with COVID are from nursing homes. Six months ago those deaths would’ve been listed as heart failure, or respiratory failure, or cardiac arrest due to conditions like COPD, coronary artery disease, diabetes. Now when you die with COVID they say you died of COVID. WE don’t have 150,000 dead because of COVID. We have that many dead with COVID. Worldwide scientific consensus is that kids are safer than a flu virus. Old people, sick people, stay away from others: quarantine. Everybody else, get over it.
 
All kids? All teachers? I had no idea they were all safe. Never mind. The average person has one breast and one testicle.
Risk is incurred every breath we take. There are countless threats more concerning than COVID for the 329,000,000 people who aren’t infected. Vulnerable people and sick people need to quarantine...it ain’t that hard to understand. We’ve done it for as long as human history has been recorded.
 
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The Tylenol Murderer killed 7 people in Chicago in 1982 and the country spent billions and billions repackaging medicines and food all over the country. The stupid seal underneath the peanut butter or salad dressing lids have probably taken a year off my life. Prior to that there was no “if the seal is broken....” on any product in America.

How much is a life worth to people?
If there was a way to track the exact person who gave covid to someone who died, do you think more people would wear masks?
A life is as important as the media say it should be.
 
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yes. Many of the scientists involved believe the actual infection numbers are 10 times the cases we have identified. Most are asymptomatic
When sentences start with “many of the scientists believe” we can continue in a lot of divergent directions. Not convincing. Surprising how some people believe the data when it suits them and believe what “many of the scientists believe” when it doesn’t.
 
So if they move to the spring, a student will have to choose between football or track or baseball. They do realize many of them are the same kids for most schools.
 
Unfortunately, the use of stats should be a process to enable some sort of logical conclusion. Due to the clown show nature of all the stats associated with COVID, that cannot be accomplished. As they say, you can purchase a scientist using the same method that you purchase a politician. The death rate, as well as the number of infected is skewed, yet we are force fed those numbers, daily. Masks can save us all, unless you want to visit your grandmother or relative in a hospital. In that case, apparently the mask is ineffective. Hand sanitizer is anti-bacterial, not anti-viral, yet it's still listed as a precautionary measure.... why? There is just so much BS associated with the whole mess, how can you make an intelligent decision?
 
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Unfortunately, the use of stats should be a process to enable some sort of logical conclusion. Due to the clown show nature of all the stats associated with COVID, that cannot be accomplished. As they say, you can purchase a scientist using the same method that you purchase a politician. The death rate, as well as the number of infected is skewed, yet we are force fed those numbers, daily. Masks can save us all, unless you want to visit your grandmother or relative in a hospital. In that case, apparently the mask is ineffective. Hand sanitizer is anti-bacterial, not anti-viral, yet it's still listed as a precautionary measure.... why? There is just so much BS associated with the whole mess, how can you make an intelligent decision?
Didnt you say its going away as soon as the election is over?
Is it logical or intelligent to state the whole world is in on a hoax to get rid of the petulant child in the white house?
Might want to check your premises
 
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