Let's take a deep dive into Class 2

[Cards1968]

Current District standings

District 1
1 Jefferson (Festus) 4-0 58.83
2 Central (New Madrid County) 4-0 49.98
3 St. Pius X (Festus) 3-1 44.23
4 Charleston 3-1 43.17
5 Caruthersville 3-1 42.33
6 Kelly 3-1 35.17
7 East Prairie 1-3 25.17
8 Malden 1-3 23.75

District 2
1 Lutheran North 1-3 51.5
2 Lift for Life Academy Charter 3-1 49.23
3 Principia 1-1 35.33
4 Duchesne 1-3 33.17
5 Carnahan 0-4 27.83
6 Cuba 1-3 25.08
7 Herculaneum 1-3 19.58
8 Grandview (Hillsboro) 0-4 11.17

District 3
1 Fair Grove 4-0 47.17
2 Strafford 4-0 47.17
3 Houston 3-1 45.08
4 Ava 3-1 41.33
5 Liberty (Mountain View) 1-3 30.42
6 Willow Springs 1-3 25.25
7 Mountain Grove 1-3 23.5
8 Forsyth 0-4 15.33

District 4
1 Lamar 4-0 58.83
2 El Dorado Springs 3-1 45.92
3 Versailles 2-2 37.92
4 Sarcoxie 2-2 31.92
5 Butler 1-3 26.75
6 Warsaw 1-3 24.92
7 East Newton 0-4 22
8 Stockton with Sheldon 0-4 13.92

District 5
1 Blair Oaks 4-0 54.67
2 North Callaway 4-0 49.67
3 Father Tolton Regional Catholic 1-3 37.25
4 South Callaway 3-1 36.5
5 Hermann 2-2 30.23
6 California 0-4 27.75
7 Hallsville 1-3 27.75
8 Montgomery County 0-4 15.33

District 6
1 Palmyra 4-0 47.5
2 Clark County 3-1 47
3 Monroe City 3-1 39.42
4 Bowling Green 3-1 38.17
5 Clopton with Elsberry 2-2 29
6 Van-Far with Community 1-1 28
7 Missouri Military Academy 0-4 17.83
8 Highland 0-4 16.17

District 7
1 Summit Christian Academy 4-0 45.82
2 Knob Noster 4-0 44.92
3 Holden 2-2 34.17
4 University Academy Charter 2-2 32.75
5 Lafayette County 1-3 29.17
6 St. Michael the Archangel 1-3 25.67
7 St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) 2-3 19.62
8 Lone Jack with Kingsville 1-3 16.83

District 8
1 Lathrop 4-0 53
2 Macon 4-0 51.5
3 Lawson 4-0 48.83
4 Lexington 4-0 47.25
5 Carrollton 2-2 31.92
6 Trenton 1-3 23.5
7 Brookfield 0-4 22.08
8 Richmond 0-4 22

Maxpreps Class rankings Top 25:

1 Lutheran North (St. Louis) 1-3 30.7 33.6
2 Lamar 4-0 28.9 -7.9
3 Blair Oaks (Jefferson City) 4-0 28.8 0.6
4 Lathrop 4-0 21.8 -5.5
5 Macon 4-0 16.0 -7.1
6 Palmyra 4-0 14.0 -7.8
7 Monroe City 3-1 9.8 -5.1
8 Lawson 4-0 9.4 -15.1
9 Fair Grove 4-0 9.0 -21.1
10 Clark County (Kahoka) 3-1 8.5 -7.5
11 Strafford 4-0 7.9 -23.4
12 Ava 3-1 5.8 -10.6
13 Summit Christian Academy (Lee's Summit) 4-0 4.8 -22.5
14 Caruthersville 3-1 3.9 -6.1
15 Lexington 4-0 2.8 -16.5
16 New Madrid County Central (New Madrid) 4-0 2.3 -21.3
17 North Callaway (Kingdom City) 4-0 2.1 -37.2
18 Knob Noster 4-0 2.1 -24.3
19 Jefferson (Festus) 4-0 -0.6 -27.9
20 Charleston 3-1 -1.3 -13.3
21 Liberty (Mountain View) 1-3 -3.5 -1.3
22 Houston 3-1 -3.8 -18.9
23 Lafayette County (Higginsville) 1-3 -4.2 4.0
24 Bowling Green 3-1 -6.2 -15.3
25 Father Tolton (Columbia) 1-3 -6.7 5.1

Missouri Media Rankings
CLASS 2

Rank, team, Rec., Pts., LW

1. Lamar (12), 4-0, 120, 1
2. Blair Oaks, 4-0, 107, 2
3. Lathrop, 4-0, 86, 4
4. Lawson, 4-0, 79, 5
5. Lutheran North, 1-3, 60, 6
6. T6. Clark County, 4-0, 47, 8
7. T6. Lexington, 4-0, 47, 7
8. T8. Macon, 4-0, 35, NR
9. T8. Monroe City, 3-1, 35, 3
10. Palmyra, 4-0, 18, 10

Dropped out: No. 9 Ava

Also receiving votes: Ava (3-1), 14; North Callaway (4-0), 12

 

[Cards1968]

First off, yeah I get that Lutheran North has a tough schedule. Yeah, I get they are supposed to be a real threat. But how in the world are they not only still highly ranked in the human poll and the Maxpreps formula, but in district points as well at 0-3?

 

[bhunt95]

I've seen some highlights of Luth North and I think they are for real in Class 2. Stout Defense and running game going up against class 5/6 similar sized out of state competition.

Blair Oaks keeps looking impressive

Lamar Well is Lamar.

Everybody else not in same category as these 3 teams in Class 2.

 

[Cards1968]

Here's my early stab...

District 1
Gotta go with Caruthersville here, right?
District 2
Lutheran North
District 5
Blair Oaks
District 6
Right now, Monroe City. Stacked district.

Would then have it a Lutheran North/Blair Oaks semi.

District 3
No clue. I'll throw Fair Grove into the mix.
District 4
Lamar
District 7
Another no clue. Seriously.
District 8
Wow. Any of the top 5 could do it. Lawson on a hunch.

Would have Lamar/Lawson semi.

 

[Mofootballfan23]

I have Lamar Vs Blair Oaks rematch.

 

[Gameday5013]

First off, yeah I get that Lutheran North has a tough schedule. Yeah, I get they are supposed to be a real threat. But how in the world are they not only still highly ranked in the human poll and the Maxpreps formula, but in district points as well at 0-3?

It's no different then when Lamar started their run, they lost games during the regular season to really good Class 3 and 4 teams. Then would go out and dominate Class 2 opponents. I actually applaud the state voters for this and see it for what it is. Lutheran North has gone out and scheduled some incredibly tough games for them, instead of the teams that started forfeiting against them, and have competed very well. Just because a team is 3-0 doesn't mean anything, all you have to do is look at who they play and/or how they play. Anybody who has seen Lutheran North knows they are very very good. I could care less what a record says, I would rather base this off of competition a team plays and how they play. There are teams every year that have great records or undefeated records that play crappy teams mainly. To me that doesn't make you a better than a team with a worse record.

 

[Cards1968]

I have Lamar Vs Blair Oaks rematch.

Caught my first highlight of them last night. They look kinda small to the untrained idiot pecking away at this keyboard. Would have the home field tiebreaker over Lutheran North if current seeds hold which is nice.

 

[Cards1968]

It's no different then when Lamar started their run, they lost games during the regular season to really good Class 3 and 4 teams. Then would go out and dominate Class 2 opponents. I actually applaud the state voters for this and see it for what it is. Lutheran North has gone out and scheduled some incredibly tough games for them, instead of the teams that started forfeiting against them, and have competed very well. Just because a team is 3-0 doesn't mean anything, all you have to do is look at who they play and/or how they play. Anybody who has seen Lutheran North knows they are very very good. I could care less what a record says, I would rather base this off of competition a team plays and how they play. There are teams every year that have great records or undefeated records that play crappy teams mainly. To me that doesn't make you a better than a team with a worse record.

I agree with all of this. I just don't like how the class multiplier is weighted in the district seeding points. You shouldn't be able to lose your first 3 games and be in #1 position simply because of who the AD put on the schedule. I would tweak it a bit and simply put a 10 point multiplier if you play above your class.

 

[Gameday5013]

I agree with all of this. I just don't like how the class multiplier is weighted in the district seeding points. You shouldn't be able to lose your first 3 games and be in #1 position simply because of who the AD put on the schedule. I would tweak it a bit and simply put a 10 point multiplier if you play above your class.

I can agree with that as well.

 

[Mofootballfan23]

Caught my first highlight of them last night. They look kinda small to the untrained idiot pecking away at this keyboard. Would have the home field tiebreaker over Lutheran North if current seeds hold which is nice.

That was my first state game I’ve ever watched. I went to every state game that year.

 

[WPAlum2010]

My current District 8 top team is Lathrop. They are for real this year and we will know that more in the coming weeks.

 

[Cards1968]

My current District 8 top team is Lathrop. They are for real this year and we will know that more in the coming weeks.

One thing I can say is Macon is stout on offense. They have a mobile and accurate QB. Defense seems to be improving. We'll know a ton more after this week.

 

[Cards1968]

Another 'bell weather' game this week in D8 is Lexington @ Brookfield.

 

[Incognito1902]

District 7 is up for grabs, but I still think Lafayette County should be the favorite. They graduated 6 seniors that earned all-state honors last year, so its no surprise that they have taken a step backwards. The 1-2 start is more an indication of a tough schedule. Lawson is for real, and Moberly is a border line class 3/4 school. I expect Higginsville will hit their stride once the conference schedule starts to heat up. District 8 will be a dogfight between Lawson and Lathrop, and possibly Lexington. The problem with Lexington is the same problem that they face every year. They feast on class 1 opponents during the regular season, and then get punched in the mouth once the real season begins.

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

District 7 is up for grabs, but I still think Lafayette County should be the favorite. They graduated 6 seniors that earned all-state honors last year, so its no surprise that they have taken a step backwards. The 1-2 start is more an indication of a tough schedule. Lawson is for real, and Moberly is a border line class 3/4 school. I expect Higginsville will hit their stride once the conference schedule starts to heat up. District 8 will be a dogfight between Lawson and Lathrop, and possibly Lexington. The problem with Lexington is the same problem that they face every year. They feast on class 1 opponents during the regular season, and then get punched in the mouth once the real season begins.

No way on Higginsville this year. And I think Lexington will be in the ballpark, but probably won't beat Lathrop. Blair Oaks looks damn good as well.

 

[Incognito1902]

I'm gonna stick with that prediction. Lafayette County will win district 7. This weeks Summit Christian matchup will tell the story. I'm not as confident in a district 8 pick. Any one of 5 teams can contend for 8, because it's just that strong. My gut says Lawson or Lathrop. As far as the rest of class 2, I like Blair Oaks, and of course Lamar. I'm not ready to write off Lutheran North either.

 

[ChaoticFanatic]

My sleeper for Class 2 is Knob Noster.

I’m not saying they’re going to win state or anything like that, the district winner they would have to play if they make the playoffs would come out of the “super-district” up north.

But I think they’re going to turn some heads this year and is definitely not the Knob Noster of Years past

 

[CalNoughtonJr]

District 8: Can't speak of Lawson, Lathrop, or Lexington but Macon is playing good football & looks the part. Brookfield has a stout defense, will be a tough matchup for a run heavy team

District 6: 3 way race between Palmyra, Monroe, & Clark.... thoughts on how the winner of D6 stacks up to Blair Oaks?

 

[J. Kane]

District 8: Can't speak of Lawson, Lathrop, or Lexington but Macon is playing good football & looks the part. Brookfield has a stout defense, will be a tough matchup for a run heavy team

District 6: 3 way race between Palmyra, Monroe, & Clark.... thoughts on how the winner of D6 stacks up to Blair Oaks?

Cal Noughton Jr!!! You should Join us Doc Guys. You would have to change your pic to a pic of yourself to be a member but we would love to have you. I really enjoy your Documentary !

 

[Peter Quill]

Cal Noughton Jr!!! You should Join us Doc Guys. You would have to change your pic to a pic of yourself to be a member but we would love to have you. I really enjoy your Documentary !

Does Booster approve of this invite?

 

[Cards1968]

District 6: 3 way race between Palmyra, Monroe, & Clark.... thoughts on how the winner of D6 stacks up to Blair Oaks?

If Clark doesn't get healthy they won't contend IMO. I'm starting to think Palmyra is the choice here as their defense sets the tone. Punchers chance with Blair Oaks, especially at home which it would be barring a regular season collapse that drops the Falcons seed. Still, I wouldn't pick them in the upset today.

 

[J. Kane]

Does Booster approve of this invite?

and

 

[Peter Quill]

and

Let’s not hijack a good post.......

 

[Peter Quill]

I meant thread.

 

[J. Kane]

Let’s not hijack a good post.......

 

[BoosterBosko]

Does Booster approve of this invite?

Okay. For starters, my name is BOSKO! If you cant get it right, come on down to the Ampipe pool hall and we can have us a little "chat." Second, Im not sure if he qualifies. Doesnt he have to be a FOOTBALL documentary Joe!?!?

 

[J. Kane]

Okay. For starters, my name is BOSKO! If you cant get it right, come on down to the Ampipe pool hall and we can have us a little "chat." Second, Im not sure if he qualifies. Doesnt he have to be a FOOTBALL documentary Joe!?!?

I thought it just had to be a sports documentary, but I am not sure.

 

[BoosterBosko]

I thought it just had to be a sports documentary, but I am not sure.

I thought it was a football documentary. I could be wrong though. If he changes his profile picture, he would fit the first 2 requirements........

 

[Missouri Kid]

District 6: 3 way race between Palmyra, Monroe, & Clark.... thoughts on how the winner of D6 stacks up to Blair Oaks?

Think of it this way: How would they match up with Maryville?

 

[Mofootballfan23]

If Clark doesn't get healthy they won't contend IMO. I'm starting to think Palmyra is the choice here as their defense sets the tone. Punchers chance with Blair Oaks, especially at home which it would be barring a regular season collapse that drops the Falcons seed. Still, I wouldn't pick them in the upset today.

You don’t think a runner up in class 3 Blair Oaks is almost a shoe in to face LN? I think it’s quite easy to predict this? Maybe it’s just me. Just saying.

 

[Mofootballfan23]

My sleeper for Class 2 is Knob Noster.

I’m not saying they’re going to win state or anything like that, the district winner they would have to play if they make the playoffs would come out of the “super-district” up north.

But I think they’re going to turn some heads this year and is definitely not the Knob Noster of Years past

I could see it.

 

[Cards1968]

Think of it this way: How would they match up with Maryville?

Fair point. Also fair to ask, how down is Maryville this year over previous editions?

You don’t think a runner up Blair Oaks is almost a shoe in to face LN? I think it’s quite easy to predict this? Maybe it’s just me.

I'd say the CCC is the strongest it's ever been this year top to bottom. Problem is, their title team from a year ago is not quite as good IMO, just everyone else getting better save Clark County due to injury. We gave Blair Oaks quite the game several years ago and Centralia has had wars with them in the not too distant past as well. The winner of that district will be a tough out.

Must point out that 'trading' Mark Twain and Louisiana for Brookfield and Clark County also factors into this.

 

[Missouri Kid]

Fair point. Also fair to ask, how down is Maryville this year over previous editions?

Fair counterpoint. Only going on comments of Maryville coach that B.O.'s new old coach has changed their offense to take advantage of attacking defenses. As long as their #1 quarterback stays healthy they will be a VERY TOUGH OUT but don't know about their depth in case of key injuries. Don't put them in the class with Lamar or even Lutheran North but like you said reference CCC team I think they may have a puncher's chance. Caveat: weather could have a huge bearing on their offense and we all know what weather can be like in playoff season in MO.

 

[CalNoughtonJr]

I'd say the CCC is the strongest it's ever been this year top to bottom. Problem is, their title team from a year ago is not quite as good IMO

Thoughts on the Macon @ Monroe matchup this week?

 

[Cards1968]

Thoughts on the Macon @ Monroe matchup this week?

I'll take Monroe City in a close one.

 

[CalNoughtonJr]

I'll take Monroe City in a close one.

should be a good one!
I'll also have my eye on Lexington @ Brookfield. Brookfield at 0-3 has played two of the CCC's best and their rival Marceline, only allowing 24 points on the season. Can someone offer insight as to how Lexington attacks on offense?

 

[J. Kane]

should be a good one!
I'll also have my eye on Lexington @ Brookfield. Brookfield at 0-3 has played two of the CCC's best and their rival Marceline, only allowing 24 points on the season. Can someone offer insight as to how Lexington attacks on offense?

 

[Gameday5013]

Maryville is Maryville, they are a really good team and they're just as good as they were last year. They just happened to get beat by another really good team in Blair Oaks.

As far as Blair Oaks goes, they do have a very explosive offense with a really good quarterback and a lot of pretty good athletes at the skill position. With a few of them being really good. They are decent size upfront and solid overall. They are a more fundamentally sound and a better run blocking offensive line than they were last year. They do run RPO's on offense, which if executed right is extremely tough to stop. They have coaches that are very good at calling games, coming up with great game plans and being able to adjust during the game really well. Against Maryville their offense actually wasn't that crisp, 4 or 5 dropped passes, a few missed throws, 2 that would have went for touchdowns had they been completed. This had to do with a new offensive system and the timing not being there. Blair Oaks did play a bad weather game last Friday and they decided to run the ball. They had about 300 yards rushing on 47 carries. And threw for a little over 100 yards on 13 attempts. In a good weather game the score is worse, but since it was bad weather they decided to be conservative on offense, and never ran their RPO's or threw the ball nearly as much they normally do. Either way they will like to be able to run and pass equally the same. They run a spread offense but will utilize a TE or H-Back sometimes. They will also run some split back veer as well, which they ran a lot of last game.

Though everybody talks about their offense, their defense has been tremendous this year. They did give up 35 points to Maryville but one of those Maryville touchdowns was a pick 6 on a shovel pass, and two of them were passing. Basically Maryville had to do things that they normally don't do in order to move or score the ball. Maryville only had 100 yards rushing on 30 carries in that game. Maryville had just a tad under 300 yards of total offense. Blair Oaks has shut out their last two opponents. Against Oak Grove their first team defense never allowed a first down and only gave up 40 yards of total offense. Against Boonville, their first team defense only allowed 4 first downs and gave up around 45 yards of total offense. They run a different defensive scheme this year. They are not real big on defense but they are very athletic and they fly around. They are fundamentally sound, tackle really well and are a very physical.

Overall they are better than they were last year. They are fundamentally and schematically sound. They may be tad more talented overall but not by a lot. As far as depth, they only have 3 or 4 players that play both ways. So they have some pretty good depth with several guys playing only one way, but can play both if need be.

This is my opinion of them and how they look. Class 2 is very deep this year and while I think there a 3 teams that stand out the most, there are several that can knock these 3 teams off if they don't come to play.

 

[ChaoticFanatic]

My sleeper for Class 2 is Knob Noster.

I’m not saying they’re going to win state or anything like that, the district winner they would have to play if they make the playoffs would come out of the “super-district” up north.

But I think they’re going to turn some heads this year and is definitely not the Knob Noster of Years past

I could see it.

I saw them play in week 1. Was definitely impressed/surprised.

 

[Mofootballfan23]

Fair point. Also fair to ask, how down is Maryville this year over previous editions?



I'd say the CCC is the strongest it's ever been this year top to bottom. Problem is, their title team from a year ago is not quite as good IMO, just everyone else getting better save Clark County due to injury. We gave Blair Oaks quite the game several years ago and Centralia has had wars with them in the not too distant past as well. The winner of that district will be a tough out.

Must point out that 'trading' Mark Twain and Louisiana for Brookfield and Clark County also factors into this.

Maryville is Maryville, they are a really good team and they're just as good as they were last year. They just happened to get beat by another really good team in Blair Oaks.

As far as Blair Oaks goes, they do have a very explosive offense with a really good quarterback and a lot of pretty good athletes at the skill position. With a few of them being really good. They are decent size upfront and solid overall. They are a more fundamentally sound and a better run blocking offensive line than they were last year. They do run RPO's on offense, which if executed right is extremely tough to stop. They have coaches that are very good at calling games, coming up with great game plans and being able to adjust during the game really well. Against Maryville their offense actually wasn't that crisp, 4 or 5 dropped passes, a few missed throws, 2 that would have went for touchdowns had they been completed. This had to do with a new offense I've system and the timing not being there. Blair Oaks did play a bad weather game last Friday and they decided to run the ball. They had about 300 yards rushing on 47 carries. And threw for a little over 100 yards on 13 attempts. In a good weather game the score is worse, but since it was bad weather they decided to be conservative on offense, and never ran their RPO's or threw the ball nearly as much they normally do. Either way they will like to be able to run and pass equally the same. They run a spread offense but will utilize a TE or H-Back sometimes. They will also run some split back veer as well, which they ran a lot of last game.

Though everybody talks about their offense, their defense has been tremendous this year. They did give up 35 points to Maryville but one of those Maryville touchdowns was a pick 6 on a shovel pass, and two of them were passing. Basically Maryville had to do things that normally wont do in order to move or score the ball. Maryville only had 100 yards rushing on 30 carries in that game. Maryville had just a tad under 300 yards of total offense. Blair Oaks has shut out their last two opponents. Against Oak Grove their first team defense never allowed a first down and only gave up 40 yards of total offense. Against Boonville, their first team defense only allowed 4 first downs and gave up around 45 yards of total offense. They run a different defensive scheme this year. They are not real big on defense but they are very athletic and they fly around. They are fundamentally sound, tackle really well and are a very physical.

Overall they are better than they were last year. They are fundamentally and schematically sound. They may be tad more talented overall but not by a lot. As far as depth, they only have 3 or 4 players that play both ways. So they have some pretty good depth with several guys playing only one way, but can play both if need be.

This is my opinion of them and how they look. Class 2 is very deep this year and while I think there a 3 teams that stand out the most, there are several that can knock these 3 teams off if they don't come to play.

Yeah it will be fun