If we can't let the Muslims have nukes

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
I don't know if the Generals in North Korea would go along with "The Leader" if he wanted to use his missiles but I think he's about as goofy as anybody on in control of anything nearly as powerful as a country's military. At least Pakistan had the good sense NOT to interfere with our guys getting bin Laden. The had to know they were there in plenty of time to respond if they wanted to.

Pakistan and N Korea have nukes as a deterrent or for prestige purposes. Iran can't wait to get nukes for the purpose of using them. Almost any country in the world having nukes makes more sense than Iran.
Nukes in general need to be limited for security reasons but some people are just too crazy to risk it. Iran is the definition of that.

 

[Neutron Monster]

That is crazy talk. Iran wants the nuke for deterrent purposes. They have no interest in a nuclear war. They aren't idiots. They know Israel would use theirs if they ever opened fire on them.

You reach the dumbest conclusions.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
I don't know if the Generals in North Korea would go along with "The Leader" if he wanted to use his missiles but I think he's about as goofy as anybody on in control of anything nearly as powerful as a country's military. At least Pakistan had the good sense NOT to interfere with our guys getting bin Laden. The had to know they were there in plenty of time to respond if they wanted to.

Pakistan and N Korea have nukes as a deterrent or for prestige purposes. Iran can't wait to get nukes for the purpose of using them. Almost any country in the world having nukes makes more sense than Iran.
Nukes in general need to be limited for security reasons but some people are just too crazy to risk it. Iran is the definition of that.

This is what happens when neocons run things and use religion to brainwash the undereducated masses.

It's a lot like Nazi Germany before WWII.

 

[3Rfan]

The religious leaders in any of the Muslim nations don't want to die anymore then you or I do and they know what would happen if they ever use nukes against anybody, much less Israel. They talk a good game when it comes to eliminating Israel and they spend their money to support terrorism but they would much rather have someone put on a suicide vest to blow up a few people to keep things stirred up than to actually use a weapon that cause HELL to rain down on THEIR heads.

 

[wcowherd]

Originally posted by Neutron Monster:

Originally posted by wcowherd:
Many already do? You have absolutely no clue. Name the Muslim countries with nukes.
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America under B. Hussein Obama and Pakistan. Plus Britain and France are overrun with Muslims. So, we're at 4 already.

How did I do???

Way better than Miller did.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
The religious leaders in any of the Muslim nations don't want to die anymore then you or I do and they know what would happen if they ever use nukes against anybody, much less Israel. They talk a good game when it comes to eliminating Israel and they spend their money to support terrorism but they would much rather have someone put on a suicide vest to blow up a few people to keep things stirred up than to actually use a weapon that cause HELL to rain down on THEIR heads.

Then they don't need a nuke!

They sponsor terrorists. Terrorists do not fear hell raining down!

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
The religious leaders in any of the Muslim nations don't want to die anymore then you or I do and they know what would happen if they ever use nukes against anybody, much less Israel. They talk a good game when it comes to eliminating Israel and they spend their money to support terrorism but they would much rather have someone put on a suicide vest to blow up a few people to keep things stirred up than to actually use a weapon that cause HELL to rain down on THEIR heads.

Then they don't need a nuke!

They sponsor terrorists. Terrorists do not fear hell raining down!

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

 

[3Rfan]

Miller that is my point, the Ayatollahs want someone else to go out and blow themselves up "for the cause" but they have no intention of doing something that will get them blown up too. Unleashing nuke on Israel or any other country will get them taken out real quick.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Miller that is my point, the Ayatollahs want someone else to go out and blow themselves up "for the cause" but they have no intention of doing something that will get them blown up too. Unleashing nuke on Israel or any other country will get them taken out real quick.

They use terror cells instead of armies now. What would prevent them from doing the same with a nuke? Do you think suicide bombers would stop short of using a nuke?

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

With that definition of sponsoring terror, any nation that has an individual of that nationality commiting an act of terror is sponsoring terror.

Iran is specificaly sponsoring (funding) terror activity. Sane people know the difference.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

With that definition of sponsoring terror, any nation that has an individual of that nationality commiting an act of terror is sponsoring terror.

Iran is specificaly sponsoring (funding) terror activity. Sane people know the difference.

So are we and the others listed.
You don't think Pakistan funds terror????
SAUDIS?!??!???!??!?!?!!? The redaction of the 9/11 report that your boy shurb had hidden pointed the finger right at Sauds.

Our CIA is nothing but a terrorist organization. Likewise its israeli counterpart, Mossad.

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism
as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property
to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any
segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

 

[3Rfan]

Miller you can't possibly be that dumb. They ARE using their army as we speak against ISIS none the less. We have all kinds of military forces but WE are using drones and special forces of various types all over the world. I'd bet that's terrorizing the associates of those taken out by them. If Iran sends a nuke to any place in the world their will be an in kind response from somebody and it won't just obliterate suicide bombers, it will take out the Ayatollahs too. I'm no expert on nuclear missiles or bombs but I'm pretty sure they can't just hand a nuclear bomb to a suicide bomber and make that work.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Miller you can't possibly be that dumb. They ARE using their army as we speak against ISIS none the less. We have all kinds of military forces but WE are using drones and special forces of various types all over the world. I'd bet that's terrorizing the associates of those taken out by them. If Iran sends a nuke to any place in the world their will be an in kind response from somebody and it won't just obliterate suicide bombers, it will take out the Ayatollahs too. I'm no expert on nuclear missiles or bombs but I'm pretty sure they can't just hand a nuclear bomb to a suicide bomber and make that work.

Really?
You think Iran is not THE major sponsor of terrorists worldwide because they oppose ISIS?
Killing terrorists with drones is terrorism?
Have you ever heard of a dirty bomb? Do you think they can't get a plane?

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

With that definition of sponsoring terror, any nation that has an individual of that nationality commiting an act of terror is sponsoring terror.

Iran is specificaly sponsoring (funding) terror activity. Sane people know the difference.

So are we and the others listed.
You don't think Pakistan funds terror????
SAUDIS?!??!???!??!?!?!!? The redaction of the 9/11 report that your boy shurb had hidden pointed the finger right at Sauds.

Our CIA is nothing but a terrorist organization. Likewise its israeli counterpart, Mossad.

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism
as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property
to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any
segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

As I said, SANE people know the difference.

Just because someone has Saudi heritage does not mean the Saudis are sponsoring terrorism.
The CIA and Mossad are terrorists! LOL LOL.

 

[3Rfan]

A dirty bomb is a LONG way from a nuclear bomb. It would be bad but it would not wipe out millions of people in one fell swoop. I assume you never heard about a Saudi Prince that funneled millions to support terrorism and that's only one that we know about. Do you think the 9/11 hijackers worked part time to finance themselves while they trained for their mission?

 

[wcowherd]

I think it's naive to think the CIA hasn't engaged in acts to cause terror.
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[wcowherd]

Also, a dirty back bomb would a) not be a critical device (it would not have enough mass to critically explode) and b) would never make it onto a plane entering the US.
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[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

With that definition of sponsoring terror, any nation that has an individual of that nationality commiting an act of terror is sponsoring terror.

Iran is specificaly sponsoring (funding) terror activity. Sane people know the difference.

So are we and the others listed.
You don't think Pakistan funds terror????
SAUDIS?!??!???!??!?!?!!? The redaction of the 9/11 report that your boy shurb had hidden pointed the finger right at Sauds.

Our CIA is nothing but a terrorist organization. Likewise its israeli counterpart, Mossad.

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism
as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property
to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any
segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

As I said, SANE people know the difference.

Just because someone has Saudi heritage does not mean the Saudis are sponsoring terrorism.
The CIA and Mossad are terrorists! LOL LOL.

Operation AJAX
Operation Phoenix
Contras
Pinochet

You should educate yourself. Those are just off the top of my head.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

We sponsor terror. (See: Iraqi innocents raped and slaughtered by our troops)

Pakistan sponsors terror.

SAUDIS sponsor terror. ( See: All the 9/11 dudes)

ISRAEL sponsors terror. (See: Lehava, Bat Ayin, Etc.)

It's amazing how certain people will turn a blind eye to that which supports their world view.

With that definition of sponsoring terror, any nation that has an individual of that nationality commiting an act of terror is sponsoring terror.

Iran is specificaly sponsoring (funding) terror activity. Sane people know the difference.

So are we and the others listed.
You don't think Pakistan funds terror????
SAUDIS?!??!???!??!?!?!!? The redaction of the 9/11 report that your boy shurb had hidden pointed the finger right at Sauds.

Our CIA is nothing but a terrorist organization. Likewise its israeli counterpart, Mossad.

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism
as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property
to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any
segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

As I said, SANE people know the difference.

Just because someone has Saudi heritage does not mean the Saudis are sponsoring terrorism.
The CIA and Mossad are terrorists! LOL LOL.

P.S. What terror groups are the Iranians funding?

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

P.S. What terror groups are the Iranians funding?

Dude, you should check yourself in for mental eval.
You are certain the US sponsors terrorists and Iran doesn't sponsor terrorists! I don't know which part is crazier.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

P.S. What terror groups are the Iranians funding?

Dude, you should check yourself in for mental eval.
You are certain the US sponsors terrorists and Iran doesn't sponsor terrorists! I don't know which part is crazier.

What terror groups does Iran sponsor?

 

[3Rfan]

I'm pretty sure Hamas is one but apparently they give them money and not weapons cause they get their butts kicked every time they poke Israel in the eye. I really don't get the idea behind constantly antagonizing someone who has an Air Force that can fly over and zap you with a few missiles anytime they want and they are not the least bit worried about doing a thousand times the damage to you that you did to them. Messing with a country with that much more military power than you is just not very bright.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
I'm pretty sure Hamas is one but apparently they give them money and not weapons cause they get their butts kicked every time they poke Israel in the eye. I really don't get the idea behind constantly antagonizing someone who has an Air Force that can fly over and zap you with a few missiles anytime they want and they are not the least bit worried about doing a thousand times the damage to you that you did to them. Messing with a country with that much more military power than you is just not very bright.

Hamas is not supported by Iran and hasn't been for years. They get their funding locally now.

 

[3Rfan]

You have different news sources than I do.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by Veer2Eternity:

What terror groups does Iran sponsor?

Mental eval.....it might be able to help.
http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362#p4
http://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/terrorism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
hthttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/30/feds-say-irans-support-terrorism-growing/?page=all#!tp://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2013/11/21-iran-terrorism-problem-beirut-bombing-byman

That is a VERY SMALL sample of the links I could have posted.
They are all probably missinformed though. Maybe you could correct them all.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
You have different news sources than I do.

News sources???

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I've read many stories that show Iran cut support since Hamas didn't back the guy in Syria circa 2010. The rhetoric is still there but the money has slowed to a trickle.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Yes. This is accurate. Qatar is the big backer of Hamas now I think.

 

[3Rfan]

Miller everything is not a reply to you. That was OBVIOUSLY a reply to veer.

NM and Veer, I watch a lot of news on various outlets and I have yet to see anyone say Iran stopped funding Hamas but Ill take your word for it since I don't really know myself.

 

[millerbleach]

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Miller everything is not a reply to you. That was OBVIOUSLY a reply to veer.

NM and Veer, I watch a lot of news on various outlets and I have yet to see anyone say Iran stopped funding Hamas but Ill take your word for it since I don't really know myself.

I know you were talking to Veer. My post was asking if you really think Veer uses news sources.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Originally posted by millerbleach:

Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Miller everything is not a reply to you. That was OBVIOUSLY a reply to veer.

NM and Veer, I watch a lot of news on various outlets and I have yet to see anyone say Iran stopped funding Hamas but Ill take your word for it since I don't really know myself.

I know you were talking to Veer. My post was asking if you really think Veer uses news sources.

Obviously my sources are a lot better than yours judging by your info on Iran and Obamacare.