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[MGHS]

Pure and simple that is it... They are more concerned about their own so called freedom than protecting those around them.

They should be concerned about freedom, it is what makes life worth living, and Freedom is the foundation of America and a Free society, it is sad and scary that you so easily mock freedom and human rights...... besides death is inevitable. No one is responsible to protect others by giving up their freedom that is pure cultish brain washing. I am not my neighbors keeper......How death happens does not matter it will happen. The risk of death from Covid is a low low percentage so forcing undo authoritarian actions on U.S. citizens is a clear violation of a persons individual rights. That is why vaxing is not mandatory.

That doesn't even factor in that the virus is not preventable because stopping a Virus is near on impossible. Even with a 100% Vax rate it's not going to stop it. 70% hasn't done so, so why do you think that another 30% vaxed is the magic number to end all of this?

I really can't understand how American Citizens can so easily be active in taking away the right of others to control their own bodies and what goes in them. Why people can't support both the right to get vax'd and not get vax'd is perplexing to me?

 

[bullitpdq68]

They should be concerned about freedom, it is what makes life worth living, and Freedom is the foundation of America and a Free society, it is sad and scary that you so easily mock freedom and human rights...... besides death is inevitable. No one is responsible to protect others by giving up their freedom that is pure cultish brain washing. I am not my neighbors keeper......How death happens does not matter it will happen. The risk of death from Covid is a low low percentage so forcing undo authoritarian actions on U.S. citizens is a clear violation of a persons individual rights. That is why vaxing is not mandatory.

That doesn't even factor in that the virus is not preventable because stopping a Virus is near on impossible. Even with a 100% Vax rate it's not going to stop it. 70% hasn't done so, so why do you think that another 30% vaxed is the magic number to end all of this?

I really can't understand how American Citizens can so easily be active in taking away the right of others to control their own bodies and what goes in them. Why people can't support both the right to get vax'd and not get vax'd is perplexing to me?

Sounds like you are pro choice.....

 

[HomeyR]

They should be concerned about freedom, it is what makes life worth living, and Freedom is the foundation of America and a Free society, it is sad and scary that you so easily mock freedom and human rights...... besides death is inevitable. No one is responsible to protect others by giving up their freedom that is pure cultish brain washing. I am not my neighbors keeper......How death happens does not matter it will happen. The risk of death from Covid is a low low percentage so forcing undo authoritarian actions on U.S. citizens is a clear violation of a persons individual rights. That is why vaxing is not mandatory.

That doesn't even factor in that the virus is not preventable because stopping a Virus is near on impossible. Even with a 100% Vax rate it's not going to stop it. 70% hasn't done so, so why do you think that another 30% vaxed is the magic number to end all of this?

I really can't understand how American Citizens can so easily be active in taking away the right of others to control their own bodies and what goes in them. Why people can't support both the right to get vax'd and not get vax'd is perplexing to me?

Freedom means the right to be selfish ? 600000+ dead and counting... How free are you when your taking a dirt nap ? BTW: We are nowhere near 70% vaccinated.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Freedom means the right to be selfish ? 600000+ dead and counting... How free are you when your taking a dirt nap ? BTW: We are nowhere near 70% vaccinated.

I told someone yesterday yep it is your choice...but if you truly believe what Trump says...you will be voting Democrat after your buried...so be wise...LOL

 

[MGHS]

Sounds like you are pro choice.....

I am 100% don’t give a shart about abortion. I’ve stated that it’s the law so who cares.

 

[MGHS]

Freedom means the right to be selfish ? 600000+ dead and counting... How free are you when your taking a dirt nap ? BTW: We are nowhere near 70% vaccinated.

Literally I posted the stats that is the number officially given … and yes give me Liberty or give me death.

 

[3Rfan]

Nope because again you are misinformed and not doing your do diligence, they have done no studies that prove they are effective against C19. At most they mayo clinic says the can Slow the spread of the virus but that is just a assumption based on the idea that you follow the social distancing policies, hand wash regime and got the vax's. In other words they have done no peer review that Masking is worth a Darn. If you cough and sneeze sure a covering catches the droplets.....but a Virus is small enough to pass through the masks mesh unless it's a N95 or a similar mask.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

Read all through what is necessary to make Mask's effective, it's laughable and I can assure you that most Medical facilities fall far short of any of the protocol listed. And again no one has done a long term study on the effectiveness of Mask's. And they won't do a study either because they don't want to know the answer to a legit peer reviewed analysis. And don't worry as I type this I'm wearing a mask per policy but following those guidelines is not realistic outside of a Isolation room or in surgery. But if Drinking Dr. Fs Kool-Aid gives you emotional comfort please continue to drink up.

So I guess you can tell us why colds and the flu were way down this past winter. I'm sure it didn't have anything to do LOTS of people wearing masks and social distancing. There is NO WAY a mask doesn't "help" stop droplets from getting through even it ain't a surgical mask. The less stuff in there ai in a crowd the better.

 

[MGHS]

So I guess you can tell us why colds and the flu were way down this past winter. I'm sure it didn't have anything to do LOTS of people wearing masks and social distancing. There is NO WAY a mask doesn't "help" stop droplets from getting through even it ain't a surgical mask. The less stuff in there ai in a crowd the better.

I posted a study above a actual clinical study about masks.....not a observational data scan, that doesn't pass scientific muster sure that theory is what most epidemiologists are touting up but a few who want more data and study think it's possible that flu rates are down because testing for the flu has stopped or mostly stopped because C19 testing is the Norm, couple that with a lot of people who have the flu are not seeking treatment because they self Quarantine assuming they have the C19, do to the fact the symptoms are similar and when they contact their healthcare providers that is often the advice they are given. That is Greg Poland's theory and He has studied the Flu at the Mayo Clinic for decades. He is a clear expert in this field.

It could very well be a combination of both....people hand washing more, staying at home and also not getting tested for the Flu.

 

[3Rfan]

I posted a study above a actual clinical study about masks.....not a observational data scan, that doesn't pass scientific muster sure that theory is what most epidemiologists are touting up but a few who want more data and study think it's possible that flu rates are down because testing for the flu has stopped or mostly stopped because C19 testing is the Norm, couple that with a lot of people who have the flu are not seeking treatment because they self Quarantine assuming they have the C19, do to the fact the symptoms are similar and when they contact their healthcare providers that is often the advice they are given. That is Greg Poland's theory and He has studied the Flu at the Mayo Clinic for decades. He is a clear expert in this field.

It could very well be a combination of both....people hand washing more, staying at home and also not getting tested for the Flu.

3 teachers in ONE county in Florida under age 50 died from covid and all of them were working with kids under 12. 2 schools in Mississippi have already closed after only a couple of weeks. Preach on brother, I'm done with you.

 

[MGHS]

3 teachers in ONE county in Florida under age 50 died from covid and all of them were working with kids under 12. 2 schools in Mississippi have already closed after only a couple of weeks. Preach on brother, I'm done with you.

I will continue to post statistical data that gives a complete overview of how the facts break down. You can keep cherry picking small sample sizes that are being reported and sensationalized to get emotional response and then reacting emotionally to them.

I'm not sure what you want to be done? Everyone throw up their hands and scream run away, run away and hide? I have pointed out that the Delta is more contagious and is a bit more deadly, but not enough at this time to sway those who want to exercise their individual freedom.

I will never be a fascist or a evil authoritarian who would be in favor of forcing stuff into peoples bodies against their will. You can support, preach and demand this be the course of action, as is your right but it says more about you than me.

 

[bullitpdq68]

I will never be a fascist or a evil authoritarian who would be in favor of forcing stuff into peoples bodies against their will. You can support, preach and demand this be the course of action, as is your right but it says more about you than me.

What?? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you on mask but what the heck are you saying?? We force and enforce things everyday that many people don't even think about... Heck It's a proven fact that gloves are no more sanitary than just washing your hands when it comes to food prep and safety, yet the county by county even city by city will either force it or not, most do it because those who eat there feel safer when seeing the person or persons wearing gloves.. never mind they were probable out back smoking with them on or just got back from the restroom LOL, Yet according to you that is being a fascist. What about no shoes no shirt no service..that rule is enforced by businesses every day has nothing to do with cleanliness, yet we adhere willing never giving it a second thought. Everyday we unknowingly adhere to mandates brought on us that are either outdated or were never relevant. even our clothing is mandated, I dare you to go down to your local grocery and try to walk in naked... hell just try doing it in your underwear...I mean according to you if they say anything to you they are being fascist because choosing to wear or not wear clothes should be a personal choice not mandated? So why are we forcing it upon them? ,,,Yet I bet that augment wouldn't really go over to well now would it? Woman cannot even breast feed in public..
There are alot of reasons why we should and probable shouldn't wear a mask but evil authoritarian or forcing stuff onto others bodies against their will is a weak augment considering we do it every day in the places we work and public spaces we all go to and never give them a second thought.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Exactly bullit. I keep reminding the unvaxers that we require all school children to have numerous vaccines to begin school. Yet somehow a covid vaccine has turned into some kind of national referendum on civil rights.

 

[MGHS]

What?? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you on mask but what the heck are you saying?? We force and enforce things everyday that many people don't even think about... Heck It's a proven fact that gloves are no more sanitary than just washing your hands when it comes to food prep and safety, yet the county by county even city by city will either force it or not, most do it because those who eat there feel safer when seeing the person or persons wearing gloves.. never mind they were probable out back smoking with them on or just got back from the restroom LOL, Yet according to you that is being a fascist. What about no shoes no shirt no service..that rule is enforced by businesses every day has nothing to do with cleanliness, yet we adhere willing never giving it a second thought. Everyday we unknowingly adhere to mandates brought on us that are either outdated or were never relevant. even our clothing is mandated, I dare you to go down to your local grocery and try to walk in naked... hell just try doing it in your underwear...I mean according to you if they say anything to you they are being fascist because choosing to wear or not wear clothes should be a personal choice not mandated? So why are we forcing it upon them? ,,,Yet I bet that augment wouldn't really go over to well now would it? Woman cannot even breast feed in public..
There are alot of reasons why we should and probable shouldn't wear a mask but evil authoritarian or forcing stuff onto others bodies against their will is a weak augment considering we do it every day in the places we work and public spaces we all go to and never give them a second thought.

How can you even compare Wearing food service gloves to taking a experimental vax??? And if you use them properly put fresh ones on after each station then they do work. And if you don’t want to wear gloves then find a different job. All your examples are comparing apples to mango fruit.

I have zero issue with a business requiring a vax to work.

But Being forced to get a vax under penalty of gov. Force is the definition of fascist. 100% against that.

 

[MGHS]

Exactly bullit. I keep reminding the unvaxers that we require all school children to have numerous vaccines to begin school. Yet somehow a covid vaccine has turned into some kind of national referendum on civil rights.

Plenty of non vaxers go to private school and home school now and that is what is happening now at fast rate. I get it you want to force people to bend to your ideology but many won’t.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Plenty of non vaxers go to private school and home school now and that is what is happening now at fast rate. I get it you want to force people to bend to your ideology but many won

Source?? None!! My guess is the percent of unvaccinated children in private schools is less than 5%.

 

[HomeyR]

Source?? None!! My guess is the percent of unvaccinated children in private schools is less than 5%.

...or simply don't go to school period under the guise of being homeschooled.

 

[bullitpdq68]

How can you even compare Wearing food service gloves to taking a experimental vax??? And if you use them properly put fresh ones on after each station then they do work. And if you don’t want to wear gloves then find a different job. All your examples are comparing apples to mango fruit.

I have zero issue with a business requiring a vax to work.

But Being forced to get a vax under penalty of gov. Force is the definition of fascist. 100% against that.

Okay I missread your statement I thought you were referring to mask...

I am still on the fence about forcing vaxination right now.. although I took it... the vax only has a temporay approval. We honestly don't know the long term affects at this point and won't know for awhile honestly.

My honest opinion is if the goverment was so sure it was safe they would go ahead and give full approval but they know it will take time to know for sure. After it wins full approval which could be years and who knows what Covid will look like then?

 

[MGHS]

Okay I missread your statement I thought you were referring to mask...

I am still on the fence about forcing vaxination right now.. although I took it... the vax only has a temporay approval. We honestly don't know the long term affects at this point and won't know for awhile honestly.

My honest opinion is if the goverment was so sure it was safe they would go ahead and give full approval but they know it will take time to know for sure. After it wins full approval which could be years and who knows what Covid will look like then?

The vax is 99% safe, it has passed scientific muster it’s just a slow red tape process of the gov. bureaucracy as to why it’s labeled experimental now.
But forcing vaccines on people against their will or requiring passports for travel is a step to far.

 

[MGHS]

Source?? None!! My guess is the percent of unvaccinated children in private schools is less than 5%.

90% of all kids have been fully vaxed…10% have no vax or partial vax. I think your wrong I’d guess around 1% or 2% of kids have no vax at all. But this vax isn’t even approved or recommended for Kids.

 

[Expect2Win]

I think ACB just said requiring vaxs is not a step too far.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

90% of all kids have been fully vaxed…10% have no vax or partial vax. I think your wrong I’d guess around 1% or 2% of kids have no vax at all. But this vax isn’t even approved or recommended for Kids.

I was referring to all vaccinations that we get as children.

 

[MGHS]

I was referring to all vaccinations that we get as children.

May data on 1/2% of children being unvaxed was in reference to normal immunizations. And that 90% are fully vaxed....with childhood immunizations. With around 8/9% having partial vaccinations for childhood diseases.

I'm pro-vaccination...it is the logical and smart thing to do in most cases.

But forcing and coercion is not the answer or justified. This is a slippery slope and divides people.

 

[Expect2Win]

May data on 1/2% of children being unvaxed was in reference to normal immunizations. And that 90% are fully vaxed....with childhood immunizations. With around 8/9% having partial vaccinations for childhood diseases.

I'm pro-vaccination...it is the logical and smart thing to do in most cases.

But forcing and coercion is not the answer or justified. This is a slippery slope and divides people.

It shouldn't be.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

But IT IS MY BUSINESS when the unvaxed are spreading a deadly virus!!

The vaccinated can do that.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

I was referring to all vaccinations that we get as children.

Children are required/recommended to get vaccinations at a young age, in large part, because their immune system isn't fully developed. This isn't a tough concept, right? Btw...coming from someone who took the J&J in April.