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How much recruiting is going on in STL

I’m not arguing that there isn’t a difference. Go look at my comments. I support separate divisions for public and private schools. There SHOULD be an Open division and a Public division. It won’t happen because MSHSAA is a wannabe NCAA and lacks the ambition, fortitude or ability to do something like that. I’m legitimately here on this topic today to stick my finger in your eye and raise Joe’s blood pressure. Rural public school teams get screwed by having a small pool to draw from for players. It’s not that there aren’t other advantages you have, but nothing approximating the injustices you see in the system.
Please do tell about the advantages we have? Cudos to you for explaining that and even admitting but DO31280 is a die hard fan of private schools that apparentely knows all coaches that recruit and coach for these schools lol
 
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First. Which brings up a good question. Which would you rather have. A publuc school feeder program like this where your kids know the system at such a young age and as a coach know what you have coming up. Or a system where evidently you have to recruit to be good?

Second: Do any of you public school prople know how the financial aid system works for most of the catholic schools? Hint. It isnt administered by each school individually.
Good commentary...
I have friends who send kids to a Catholic school and they pay on what would be a 'tithing' type system. Which is honestly 'on your honor'.
I don't know how they ALL work??? I'm guessing they all accept ear-marked private donations as well.
This school occasionally has a team to write home about but they aren't churning out D1 athletes.
 
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Please do tell about the advantages we have? Cudos to you for explaining that and even admitting but DO31280 is a die hard fan of private schools that apparentely knows all coaches that recruit and coach for these schools lol

Are you sure you want me to do that? I mean, I’d be glad to ... but it’s only gonna hurt your feelings more. I understand that life in rural Missouri is different and I don’t expect that you’d have the same experiences as public school fans from The STL Metro Area. I need more brine for my turkey and Joe’s tears are delicious, so I’m definitely here for it.
 
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Good commentary...
I have friends who send kids to a Catholic school and they pay on what would be a 'tithing' type system. Which is honestly 'on your honor'.
I don't know how they ALL work??? I'm guessing they all accept ear-marked private donations as well.
This school occasionally has a team to write home about but they aren't churning out D1 athletes.
That’s a great and major point here.
 
Oh, I’m not arguing that private schools don’t have extraordinary advantages over public schools. Even though (at least in metro areas where parents have a choice over more than one school in their rural town) parents have choices over which district they live in and want to send their kids to.

I’m just here to aggravate your pain. You don’t want to believe it’s possible that the level of “unfairness” isn’t as great as you think it is, and I don’t really want to change your minds. It’s more entertaining to feed your own suffering by pointing out that MSHSAA either A) doesn’t care what you think ... or B) is intentionally stacking the deck against you because there really IS a conspiracy against you.

See, Joe? THAT’S how you troll somebody.

Ok you just admitted that private schools have the advantage mostly in the metro areas. So you are ready to put all private schools in one catagory because of what might be happening in a few areas of the state. Funny how no one has a problem on all the private schools that just get hammered in sports.
 
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I don't think it is a problem...passive recruiting happens in Kansas City all the time. See Staley, Lee's Summit West. Remember Kearney had Excelsior's QB a couple years ago? Kearney did NOTHING to get him. He moved there to get a chance to go to state, (and other family reasons, I'm sure. (cough, cough.))
 
Ok you just admitted that private schools have the advantage mostly in the metro areas. So you are ready to put all private schools in one catagory because of what might be happening in a few areas of the state. Funny how no one has a problem on all the private schools that just get hammered in sports.
It’s like talking to a brick wall don’t do it.
 
Good commentary...
I have friends who send kids to a Catholic school and they pay on what would be a 'tithing' type system. Which is honestly 'on your honor'.
I don't know how they ALL work??? I'm guessing they all accept ear-marked private donations as well.
This school occasionally has a team to write home about but they aren't churning out D1 athletes.

And plus there are need base catholic organizations that will help a family obtain a catholic education. It is all based on a parents financial situation. Kind of like college and FAFSA. Has NOTHING to do with the school. This is where many kids who can't afford private schools get much of their help.
 
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And plus there are need base catholic organizations that will help a family obtain a catholic education. It is all based on a parents financial situation. Kind of like college and FAFSA. Has NOTHING to do with the school. This is where many kids who can't afford private schools get much of their help.

And CBS News will soon be reporting soon about the Russian connection to this organization.
 
Ok you just admitted that private schools have the advantage mostly in the metro areas. So you are ready to put all private schools in one catagory because of what might be happening in a few areas of the state. Funny how no one has a problem on all the private schools that just get hammered in sports.
But the fact is its a issue in the city, and there are some privates in rural areas that steal students the same way the city does from certain counties. The main agruement is if you want this to continue things need to be put in place. Students that choose to go to private schools need to pay their own way and not be helped through the school or friends of the program. Schools should find out the number of students they need to pay the bills and stick to that enrollment with no up/down numbers to jump from class to class.
 
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But the fact is its a issue in the city, and there are some privates in rural areas that steal students the same way the city does from certain counties. The main agruement is if you want this to continue things need to be put in place. Students that choose to go to private schools need to pay their own way and not be helped through the school or friends of the program. Schools should find out the number of students they need to pay the bills and stick to that enrollment with no up/down numbers to jump from class to class.
BO should be class 3 IMO. Private schools should move up a class after counting enrollment.
 
I’m not arguing that there isn’t a difference. Go look at my comments. I support separate divisions for public and private schools. There SHOULD be an Open division and a Public division. It won’t happen because MSHSAA is a wannabe NCAA and lacks the ambition, fortitude or ability to do something like that. I’m legitimately here on this topic today to stick my finger in your eye and raise Joe’s blood pressure. Rural public school teams get screwed by having a small pool to draw from for players. It’s not that there aren’t other advantages you have, but nothing approximating the injustices you see in the system.
Didn't Monroe City beat the mighty Valle Catholic in the Class 1 Championship last year?
 
But the fact is its a issue in the city, and there are some privates in rural areas that steal students the same way the city does from certain counties. The main agruement is if you want this to continue things need to be put in place. Students that choose to go to private schools need to pay their own way and not be helped through the school or friends of the program. Schools should find out the number of students they need to pay the bills and stick to that enrollment with no up/down numbers to jump from class to class.


When I mock you, it’s for saying things like private schools “steal” public school kids and demanding that someone else’s kids not get financial assistance because YOU think it’d be a reasonable barrier to keep someone else from making a choice for their kids that you don’t like. All because you’re butt hurt about a football game.

Kids don’t “belong” to public schools. Their families still pay municipal taxes to fund the district whether their kids go there or not. Why not open enrollment and give parents the choice to use their taxes to pay for whatever school they choose to? They can pay tuition or they can take their money and keep it to fund the local public school. It’s easy to want to deny other people a choice of schools when the town you live in doesn’t have options.
 
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Didn't Monroe City beat the mighty Valle Catholic in the Class 1 Championship last year?

Yep. And Webb City has lorded over Class 4 longer than even Lamar has dominated Class 2. Of course, when too many private schools make the semis or a school like Joplin gets crushed then cries get louder and the peanut gallery loses their collective minds. Oh, well.
 
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Yep. And Webb City has lorded over Class 4 longer than even Lamar has dominated Class 2. Of course, when too many private schools make the semis or a school like Joplin gets crushed then cries get louder and the peanut gallery loses their collective minds. Oh, well.

Nobody is going to complain about a well coached all homemade talent. That’s something to cheer for.
 
But the fact is its a issue in the city, and there are some privates in rural areas that steal students the same way the city does from certain counties. The main agruement is if you want this to continue things need to be put in place. Students that choose to go to private schools need to pay their own way and not be helped through the school or friends of the program. Schools should find out the number of students they need to pay the bills and stick to that enrollment with no up/down numbers to jump from class to class.

OH Geesh, come on. Now you want it to be against the rules for any one catholic organization to offer any assistance to any student who wants to continue to better their catholic education, based on need. Lets really make private school a wealthy education system. Hey better yet, why stop at the high school level Lets get rid of FAFSA and make anyone who wants to go to college only be able to go to college if they can pay for it on their own.
 
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Nobody is going to complain about a well coached all homemade talent. That’s something to cheer for.

Oh, there are and were plenty of complaints. It isn’t always a giant love fest in SWMO. It’s just that the cries are louder and tears are deeper this time of the season. I’m here for it, though.
 
When I mock you, it’s for saying things like private schools “steal” public school kids and demanding that someone else’s kids not get financial assistance because YOU think it’d be a reasonable barrier to keep someone else from making a choice for their kids that you don’t like. All because you’re butt hurt about a football game.

Kids don’t “belong” to public schools. Their families still pay municipal taxes to fund the district whether their kids go there or not. Why not open enrollment and give parents the choice to use their taxes to pay for whatever school they choose to? They can pay tuition or they can take their money and keep it to fund the local public school. It’s easy to want to deny other people a choice of schools when the town you live in doesn’t have options.
I doesn't matter what is brought upon you guys facts or what not. You are going to say the same ol crap. Open enrollment lol what do you call when a kid lives in a school district and plays little league sports and private schools recruit the student to come to their school??? Oh shit I bet that don't happen thou. I bet they recruit the same for a non athlete and offer them the same amount of scholarship money... you guys are dumb as can be if you think this doesn't happen.
 
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I doesn't matter what is brought upon you guys facts or what not. You are going to say the same ol crap. Open enrollment lol what do you call when a kid lives in a school district and plays little league sports and private schools recruit the student to come to their school??? Oh shit I bet that don't happen thou. I bet they recruit the same for a non athlete and offer them the same amount of scholarship money... you guys are dumb as can be if you think this doesn't happen.
So a lot of the guys who attend Trinity live in the Riverview Gardens, Jennings, SLPS, and Hazelwood East school districts. So you're saying they should go to those schools instead? Lol
 
I doesn't matter what is brought upon you guys facts or what not. You are going to say the same ol crap. Open enrollment lol what do you call when a kid lives in a school district and plays little league sports and private schools recruit the student to come to their school??? Oh shit I bet that don't happen thou. I bet they recruit the same for a non athlete and offer them the same amount of scholarship money... you guys are dumb as can be if you think this doesn't happen.

Oh, it ABSOLUTELY happens. In STL coaches from public AND private schools are at games. You think open enrollment is insane but think trying to force private schools to stop giving financial assistance makes perfect sense. Lol.

You’re emotional because you think someone else’s kids “belong” to your school district and parents shouldn’t be able to make choices because you don’t like their decisions. Womp womp.
 
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So a lot of the guys who attend Trinity live in the Riverview Gardens, Jennings, SLPS, and Hazelwood East school districts. So you're saying they should go to those schools instead? Lol
Guess not....according to you. What would happen if these students didn't recieve a scholarship to play at these private high schools? :confused:
 
Guess not....according to you. What would happen if these students didn't recieve a scholarship to play at these private high schools? :confused:
Of course they shouldn't if they have the means to go elsewhere. In case you didn't know, they aren't exactly great schools from an environmental and academic standpoint. I know first hand that Trinity doesn't give our scholarships like that. They are CHEAP. But keep commenting on things you know nothing about.
 
You guys just plain freaking nuts if you think a coach has the ability and authority to go up to a kid and say we will give you free tuition if you come to our school. NO administration has given any coach that authority to do that. And second, there would have to be many kids out there who turned down the offer who hate private schools who would love nothing more than to turn such a coach and school into MSHSAA. Because that would be a direct violation of state rules.
 
You guys just plain freaking nuts if you think a coach has the ability and authority to go up to a kid and say we will give you free tuition if you come to our school. NO administration has given any coach that authority to do that. And second, there would have to be many kids out there who turned down the offer who hate private schools who would love nothing more than to turn such a coach and school into MSHSAA. Because that would be a direct violation of state rules.

It's obviously way more low key and indirect than that most, if not all, the time.
 
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