ADVERTISEMENT

Frisco League Discussion

oldschoolmo said:
I have no idea how many times Licking and St. James met at sectionals in Rolla. However, over the last decade or so, I’d guess that they’re records with one another are probably fairly even when factoring in regular season games and tournament games. I’d say the first several years of the last decade probably went to St. James and the last few years have seen Licking with the advantage. Both teams have fantastic coaches and both teams have had their fair share of talent. Of course St. James girl’s basketball has a tradition of being pretty phenomenal, dating back to the 90’s. But you can’t honestly say with a straight face that Licking hasn’t been able to compete with St. James over the last few years. My point was to simply point out the obvious; Licking hasn’t had to worry too much about meeting St. James in districts or State Tournament play in the last few years. These two teams are in the SAME district this year. I think Licking will win that district. My point was that Licking will have its hands full with the talent that St. James has coming up in the next few seasons. And with talent like that, any school that has St. James on their schedule will have its hands full.
With your comment, the implication was that St. James has always been and will always be dominant to Licking in class 3 post season play. All you have to do is look at the past few seasons and see that your implication just isn’t so. Licking seems to be the more dominant team the past few seasons.
Looking forward, beyond this season, any class 3 team, including Licking, will be hoping that MSHSAA keeps them as far away from St. James as possible. Of course this is contingent upon St. James’ young talent staying together, remaining eligible, and continuing to mature and get better at basketball. I’ve seen plenty of talented young kids reach their peek by about 8-9 grade, some even younger. For some, they just seem to plateau and never really get better. So you can’t always just look at kids’ success when they are young and still in Jr. High. This success at young ages doesn’t always translate to success at the varsity level. But if we assume that St. James young talent will continue to progress and get better, then they will have several standout seasons in the next few years.
Click to expand...
Has licking ever defeated st James in sectionals
 
Hoopsquad20 said:
St James was dominant at class 4 level with Coach Conway. They will be class 4 again. They are a great program.
Click to expand...

St. James was also dominant under Coach Crabtree during the 90’s. I don’t remember if they were class 3 or class 4 back then, but everybody knew that if St. James was in town, whoever they were playing better have their game faces on!
 
oldschoolmo said:
St. James was also dominant under Coach Crabtree during the 90’s. I don’t remember if they were class 3 or class 4 back then, but everybody knew that if St. James was in town, whoever they were playing better have their game faces on!
Click to expand...

start young with fundamentals. Don’t allow parents with agendas to Coach 2nd through 6th grade Alumni offer BB lessons in summer Volleyball not taking players
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlindSide20
I didn’t mean to turn the Frisco League thread into a St. James thread. I was only pointing out that I think Newburg, Crocker, and Licking have the most talent coming up in the future and I think they’ll be the teams to beat in the Frisco League.
I just threw in there that St. James also has a WHOLE LOTTA talent coming up too. Of course Dixon and Licking are the only teams from Frisco that would have to worry about St. James in post season play. But after this season, there might not be any Frisco Schools that will have to contend with St. James. After MSHSAA implements the 6 class system, St. James will probably go class 4. Actually I haven’t checked the numbers to see if this will happen, but I would assume they go class 4 and Dixon and Licking stay class 3. In this case, nobody in Frisco will have to worry about how good St. James will be.
Now we can stop beating this dead horse. Everyone on here knows that St. James has always been good and will probably always be good, regardless of what class they are in.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1951anNMARIA
Licking and St. James won't face each other in the post-season after this year. Licking is going to be class 3 and St. James will be 4. Rolla will be class 5.
 
oldschoolmo said:
Newburg Lady Wolves just made Licking’s world much brighter. After Richland beat Licking this week, I’m sure Steve Rissler was thinking his chances of winning the Frisco League again this year had just been squashed. All Richland had to do was get by Newburg and they would’ve had the Frisco League championship in the bag. This is assuming they wouldn’t lose to anyone else in the league. And after beating Licking, who would’ve thought they would lose to anyone else? But with Newburg’s win over Richland last night 52-47, Licking is right back in it for at least a share of the title. For Newburg to have a shot, they must still beat Licking and not lose to anyone else in the league. Their conference game loss to Dixon really hurt their chances. But if they can beat Licking and remain with Dixon as their only loss, then they could win the conference. This would leave them and Richland as having only one loss apiece. And since Newburg beat Richland head to head, would this mean they would have the conference title to themselves? Or would it be a shared title because of each team’s one loss?
Click to expand...

If two teams have one loss, then the head to head winner is the champ. If 3 teams have one loss it is a 3-way tie.
 
oldschoolmo said:
I didn’t mean to turn the Frisco League thread into a St. James thread. I was only pointing out that I think Newburg, Crocker, and Licking have the most talent coming up in the future and I think they’ll be the teams to beat in the Frisco League.
I just threw in there that St. James also has a WHOLE LOTTA talent coming up too. Of course Dixon and Licking are the only teams from Frisco that would have to worry about St. James in post season play. But after this season, there might not be any Frisco Schools that will have to contend with St. James. After MSHSAA implements the 6 class system, St. James will probably go class 4. Actually I haven’t checked the numbers to see if this will happen, but I would assume they go class 4 and Dixon and Licking stay class 3. In this case, nobody in Frisco will have to worry about how good St. James will be.
Now we can stop beating this dead horse. Everyone on here knows that St. James has always been good and will probably always be good, regardless of what class they are in.
Click to expand...
Not a problem, lots of good insight in your thread.
 
oldschoolmo said:
Newburg seems to be having a year much like last year. They have the ability to play well and they do play well against some teams. Then they completely choke against other teams. I mean who would’ve thought they would be able to hang with St. Clair and beat Richland (right after Richland beat Licking). They stayed with St. Clair right up until the end. Claire Affolter fouled out of this game in the fourth, just as she did against Dixon, Houston, and who knows who else. The rest of the team has got to figure out a way to win those close games without her. And she has to figure out a way not to foul out in close games. Part of this just comes with inexperience. Inexperienced players and inexperienced coach. However, looks like Newburg’s coach has made some adjustments defensively that maybe has turned things around for the Lady Wolves.
In a year or two, I look for Newburg to be the team to beat in the Frisco League. They seem to have some talent coming up in the next couple years. Richland will continue to be tough for at least one more year. That’s when Katelin Cole will graduate and this will be a huge loss for the Lady Bears. There’s nobody on the team or coming up from the younger grades that will be able to fill her shoes. There’s not much coming up for Richland after this year’s group of sophomores graduate either. Crocker will be tough too, especially if they can keep coach Mueller on board. And Licking will continue to be a contender. I don’t see any of the other schools with as much young talent as Newburg, Crocker, and Licking. I hope for Licking’s sake that MSHSAA keeps them far away from St. James’ district because with the talent that St. James has coming up, they will be be knocking the snot out of most teams in this area.
Click to expand...

I think this year's 8th grade for Licking is a little bit below what they are used to, but I think their 7th grade makes up for it. I wonder if the coach from Newburg is there to stay or if they will run her out of town because of their expectations. They do have some talented kids coming up in the next couple years that will make them tougher and deeper. I also agree that Richland doesn't have anyone coming that would fill the shoes of Cole. Will be interesting to see how long Coach Ward stays in Bear Country.
 
Last edited:
Hoopsquad20 said:
Kickapoo and Rolla tied for OC CHAMPS last season and Rolla lost to Kickapoo heads up. Kickapoo lost to WP.
Click to expand...

So true Hoopsquad! I didn’t even think about that. Seems like Rolla could’ve made an argument for being the Champs instead of having to share the title. I just wonder who makes the decisions in questions like this. There’s not any type of governing body that I’m aware of that can hear and arbitrate these arguments. So what would’ve happened if Rolla would’ve just declared themselves champs because of their head to head win with Kickapoo? I’ve always had in my head that this is the way it works, but obviously not everywhere. And maybe not anywhere. Maybe I’ve just thought this for no reason.
But if you look at last season in Frisco, didn’t Newburg finish 2nd, above Stoutland? They both had 2 losses, but Newburg beat Stoutland in head to head. In my head, that’s how they finished 2nd. Any ideas out there on how a person can find a definitive answer to this? Does each conference have its own rules or does MSHSAA have any jurisdiction to answer this? Or has it just always been a shared title among teams with same number of losses?
 
Monday Jan 20 Games
Dixon at Iberia
Laquey at Bourbon
Newburg at Crocker
Conway at Stoutland
Plato at Richland
Licking off

Who is playing and who is cancelled?
 
Who won the Crocker Newburg Matchup?

Also did Crocker lose to the homeschool team that Houston beat in the Bourbon tourney??
 
Anyone playing today? Weather sure it wreaking havoc on the schedule. Might be a war of attrition later in the year as teams have to fit 3, 4 or 5 games into a week's time.

Hoopsquad20 said:
Who won the Crocker Newburg Matchup?
Click to expand...

According to Maxpreps the game has been moved to February something.
 
Been out of town for a few days, did I miss anything? :) Besides all the snow! Anyone have a bracket for the Newburg Tournament?
 
BlindSide20 said:
Something doesn't seem right there. Would be interested in seeing how the coaches seeded that.
Click to expand...
Cuba may be a little high at the three, but play a tougher schedule than most. Newburg is capable of beating anyone in the tournament. I could see Crocker as a two or three, but their inability to score and an early loss to Newburg may have cost them.
 
Scores from last night from the MSHSAA website

Licking/St. James-no score
Dixon 58 Laquey 53
Eugene 54 Iberia 46
Lee's Summit West 77 Richland 46
Crocker 36 Stoutland 20
Newburg/Cuba-no score

Anyone have the missing scores from last night? That Crocker/Stoutland score is weird. When you click on it, it says that the varsity score is 44-33 Crocker and the JV score is 36-20, but on the main schedule page it's the opposite. Anyone know which score is accurate?
 
BlindSide20 said:
Scores from last night from the MSHSAA website

Licking/St. James-no score
Dixon 58 Laquey 53
Eugene 54 Iberia 46
Lee's Summit West 77 Richland 46
Crocker 36 Stoutland 20
Newburg/Cuba-no score

Anyone have the missing scores from last night? That Crocker/Stoutland score is weird. When you click on it, it says that the varsity score is 44-33 Crocker and the JV score is 36-20, but on the main schedule page it's the opposite. Anyone know which score is accurate?
Click to expand...

newburg 62 Cuba 42
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlindSide20
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

trumanbulldog42

Chiefs NOT helped by refs!

Replies
38
Views
2K
FOOTBALL
trumanbulldog42
trumanbulldog42
Q

JUCO + 4 Years of Eligibility...Wow!

Replies
35
Views
1K
FOOTBALL
Justh.aFax
Justh.aFax
P

Lamar 17 straight District Championships

Replies
90
Views
7K
FOOTBALL
catch_21
catch_21
STLFTBL

Looking forward to how the STL Teams do this weekend. (and Lutheran N coaches please stay off of social media!!!)

Replies
27
Views
3K
FOOTBALL
J. Kane
J. Kane
trumanbulldog42

Worst decision made by each NFL team since 2020

Replies
5
Views
863
FOOTBALL
MoSooner69
MoSooner69
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back