Don't be surprised if MSHSAA changes District format in the next couple years.
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I heard possibly going back to 4 team districts or if they stay with this format that only the top 4 teams make the playoffs.
If they do top 4, then they better do a better job of making sure that districts aren’t so unbalanced. Because right now Worth County would be out and they have a legitimate shot of winning the state championship.
can't win state if you can't win your district.
Can’t win district if you are not allowed to compete for it.
The way it is now is just fine. They got rid of 4 team districts because of being unfair or what ever. I've stated many times if you dont give a team a shot just because of record you f'd up. Maryville has played an unreal schedule. I bet they will do fine in districts.
Did you not read the previous posts? Referred to proposal to just take top 4 in each district to playoffs.
Of they're going to take the top four in each district are district members going to be playing each other throughout the year. Because just this flawed seeding system shouldn't really decide who would get in if they all don't play the others.
Can't be the best team in SWMO if you can't win the Midland Empire Conference.
The 16 districts with 4 teams was a great setup other than it screwed up regular season scheduling for conferences. The 8 district bracket with point system is good because it allows you to play the regular season schedule of your choice, the point system makes every game valuable in seeding. The main problem with it the districts are so spread out geographically.
Go with 16 districts with 4 teams - that will help the geographic issues out. Keep the bracket system for districts 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Points system in place to determine that. Point system at least keeps it interesting throughout the year. Keep the current regular season format, first 9 games schedule whoever you want Week 10 starts districts, Week 11 District Championships. Then State Playoffs begin with Sectionals, Quarterfinals, Semis and State Championship.
Go with 16 districts with 4 teams - that will help the geographic issues out. Keep the bracket system for districts 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Points system in place to determine that. Point system at least keeps it interesting throughout the year. Keep the current regular season format, first 9 games schedule whoever you want Week 10 starts districts, Week 11 District Championships. Then State Playoffs begin with Sectionals, Quarterfinals, Semis and State Championship.
Go back to 5 classes, do away with districts, keep the point system, take top 24 or 32 and seed with point system.
Revamp championship factor for private schools. 1 pt for state title appearance and 2 pts for state title. Tally over 4 years. 2 pts, 1 class; 4 pts, 2 classes and 6+ points 3 classes.
Add championship factor for public schools. State titles only get counted. 2 state titles in the 3 year period gets 1 class.
9 week season, 5 weeks on playoffs ending on Thanksgiving weekend
If Mshsaa decides to stay with 6 classes just balance them out and go to 24 team playoff. But lets be honest I don't think Missouri will see 320 teams again unless we see a population boom and/or some of these larger districts add another high school.
Revamp championship factor for private schools. 1 pt for state title appearance and 2 pts for state title. Tally over 4 years. 2 pts, 1 class; 4 pts, 2 classes and 6+ points 3 classes.
Add championship factor for public schools. State titles only get counted. 2 state titles in the 3 year period gets 1 class.
9 week season, 5 weeks on playoffs ending on Thanksgiving weekend
If Mshsaa decides to stay with 6 classes just balance them out and go to 24 team playoff. But lets be honest I don't think Missouri will see 320 teams again unless we see a population boom and/or some of these larger districts add another high school.
Great, except when you have to drive 9 hours from NW Missouri down to Cape for first round playoff game.
Doesn’t make sense. The entire purpose of it for privates is well, uh throughly discussed on this forum. Giving it to public schools defeats the purpose. So yeah I agree.
So what if #4 beats number 1 and #5 beats number 4. #5 bumps #4 out of the out of the play-offs. In Class 1 Dist. 5, #5 beat Tipton beat #1 Lincoln, but would be out of the play-offs?
I thought everybody loved 1 vs 8 meaningless blowout turbo by halftime games?
And lose an entire round of MSHSAA collecting money on ticket receipts? Not a chance.
The issue is if they keep the same format then we are back to the top 4 being decided by district points. It will be back to the 70's and early 80's (history repeating itself) There were times when a 10-0 team was kept out because there were other 9-1 schools in that district that got to go to the playoffs because of points.
The way it is set up right now a class 2 Team in a conference with several class 3 and 4 schools could still win more points than a class 2 school in conference with only class 2 schools. If in a stacked District a Lamar team who got beaten by a good Seneca team could be out, would that be fair? What about all those early Lamar teams who made the playoff with not so good records, possible under the new format they never play in the districts.
Better yet, go back to pre-1968... and let everyone on here debate who the best team is. No playoffs, no champions, just rankings.
I’m not arguing anything. I haven’t yet. Just win baby, and leave it alone is my answer. I guess I’m also still just I. Belief what we currently have for districts and the point system is fine. Nobody is left out, if you are really that good, you’ll at bare minimum get to the championship or win. If not? It is what it is.
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Drop to 3/4 team districts, same format. Reseed starting the sectional round (round three), someone smarter than me can figure out how to properly award points to teams with byes that doesn’t punish them for having a bye. Half the teams are eliminated, so while there will be some long matchups still, I think it promotes the best teams advancing deeper into the playoffs.
The real issue is the fans and the blowouts the fans don't want to see them. Well no system is perfect you had blowouts even in the 4 team districts sometimes in all three games for way to many schools.
With the old 4 team districts many times you had meaningless games after the 7 game for way to many schools. Because many times teams were eliminated and still had to play two more meaningless games and you still had week 10 blowouts but usually on a Thursday.
Not saying the current system is perfect but at least you are playing for something week 10... and there are no decent teams left at home, you get to decide it on the field. If you every played in the 70's and 80's and went 9-1 and watched a team you beat get to go to the playoffs you would never complain about todays format.
Maybe we need to do something like basketball were the top seeds get a bye, now the regular season just got more interesting.
I say we go back to 4 team districts with no points system (the 1988-2007 plan). The top teams move on, everybody that couldn't win their district turn their shit in. It worked and was fair. If you can't win your district, you weren't going to win state. There was never a rationale argument for changing it.
But what about the blowouts? That is the issue all the fans on here want to complain about today with the current system nothing about that system will change it, except now you might have to play three blowout games.
The blowouts would happen by random chance, not because we purposefully pitted the best teams vs the worst teams.
Try Class 1 Districts, 1, 3,4,5,6,7 and 8 (all have 1 vs. 8s)
Try Class 6 Districts 1,2,3 and 4..(all have 1 vs. 8s)
Otherwise, the 2-7s aren't much better...
Try Class 6 Districts 1,2,3 and 4..(all have 1 vs. 8s)
Otherwise, the 2-7s aren't much better...
The best solution to the football playoffs is the same solution that every sport should adopt — in some fashion.
16 team districts.
The seeded 16-team district eliminates elements of geographic luck, and provides the best chance of the better teams advancing further and being rewarded for being the better team, while also ensuring that everyone has a chance..
16 team districts.
- Seed them out 1--16
- Seeds 1-8 receive first round bye
- Seeds 9-16 play first round. Higher seeds host.
- First round winners advance to play a road game.
The seeded 16-team district eliminates elements of geographic luck, and provides the best chance of the better teams advancing further and being rewarded for being the better team, while also ensuring that everyone has a chance..
You would have 4 winners in the first round with 8 teams receiving byes. You would need 12 team districts with 5-12 playing first round and 1-4 getting first round bye for your concept to work.
Best Solution for the football playoffs is start the season 1 week Earlier, Play a 9 Game season, take a bye week after the regular season and re-district all teams.
8 4-team district's. take the top 32 teams and seed them with the Point System in the off week. The Top 8 teams in points be the #1 seed in their district and re-District the rest of the teams in their geographically area
8 4-team district's. take the top 32 teams and seed them with the Point System in the off week. The Top 8 teams in points be the #1 seed in their district and re-District the rest of the teams in their geographically area
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