You Can't Be a Christian and Vote for Trump

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

No, he isn't.

But he might appoint Supreme Court Justices who will support rights and values that are very important to Christian voters.

And that's a very important aspect of this election.

You're willing to gamble on MIGHT. Yeah he MIGHT do exactly what you think, he MIGHT also appoint people who are extremely unqualified or worse, extremely liberal.

You have no idea, because Trump hasn't outlined any real plans and he appears to be playing a character.

By all accounts he's a con-man and you are falling for it.

 

[butterypopcorn05]

You're willing to gamble on MIGHT. Yeah he MIGHT do exactly what you think, he MIGHT also appoint people who are extremely unqualified or worse, extremely liberal.

You have no idea, because Trump hasn't outlined any real plans and he appears to be playing a character.

By all accounts he's a con-man and you are falling for it.

I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not falling for anything.

And the issue of Supreme Court Justices is about the only thing he has released specifics about. It might be all that saves him.

You said Christians shouldn't vote for Trump and probably shouldn't vote at all. I disagree and am trying to explain why I disagree... doesn't mean I'm a Trump supporter.

 

[butterypopcorn05]

Which rights and values? How has the GOP dealt with those to this point ? What are Trump's positions on these values?

I think the main issues a Christian voter would be concerned with would be abortion, gun rights and general gay/transgender issues.

The GOP is losing on all of those issues, but that doesn't mean the Christian voting bloc doesn't hope they can turn it around with the right judges on the court.

If I remember right Trump has held about every position on all those issues.

 

[millerbleach]

You're willing to gamble on MIGHT. Yeah he MIGHT do exactly what you think, he MIGHT also appoint people who are extremely unqualified or worse, extremely liberal.

You have no idea, because Trump hasn't outlined any real plans and he appears to be playing a character.

By all accounts he's a con-man and you are falling for it.

Maybe you should try paying attention!
Trump has listed a specific group of specific judges he would draw from for the SC.
He may be lying but I know for sure what Hillary would do.
Trump has been VERY specific on this matter and I fully support his choices.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Maybe you should try paying attention!
Trump has listed a specific group of specific judges he would draw from for the SC.
He may be lying but I know for sure what Hillary would do.
Trump has been VERY specific on this matter and I fully support his choices.

Ok genius, what is she going to do?

 

[butterypopcorn05]

Ok genius, what is she going to do?

She's mentioned nominating Obama.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

She's mentioned nominating Obama.

That's an excellent choice. Certainly qualified.

I hope it happens just to punish Congress for not doing their job.

 

[vbsideout]

I do think the Democrats have a point. Bill was not really having sex with an underaged child .

"is is"

I didn't know Billy boy was running for Pres. This changes everything

 

[eaglesalumni]

Hillary has been the target of GOP for 20 years and they literally have nothing on her. Either they're really bad at what they do (which could be the case) or she's not 'the epitome of corruption'.

What does marijuana have to do with Christianity? What did Jesus say about gays?

Trump is as far from Christian as ANYONE that's ran the last 30 years. Divorces, adultery, running away from debts, dealing with the mob, arrogant , yada yada. He's the total package. Plus he worships money which is why most GOPers like him. They do too.

Where to start?

The GOP have nothing on her? When the FBI director says you lied, and are too stupid to handle classified info..... that is saying something.

Pretty sure the lord doesn't look with favor to mind altering drugs.

Quit with the Jesus argument, we all know, along with the lord, that homosexuality is an abomination.

Is Trump horrible? Yes

Is he better than Hillary? Apparently, many think so.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Can you imagine accepting the nomination of a major party for the presidency without taking time to thank God? Only one candidate did that.

 

[FistOH]

That's a really good point. Except, the liberals have crushed every evangelical Republican candidate on the basis of religion. Why would Trump do this? It's never worked before. Just a bizzare and clueless post.

 

[Neutron Monster]

That's a really good point. Except, the liberals have crushed every evangelical Republican candidate on the basis of religion. Why would Trump do this? It's never worked before. Just a bizzare and clueless post.

The point is that if he isn't even willing to pay lip service to it, what do you think he will do as president?

 

[FistOH]

The point is that if he isn't even willing to pay lip service to it, what do you think he will do as president?

It's as relevant as any lip stick you put on after dinner.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

It's a relevant as any lip stick you put on after dinner.

Was this necessary?

 

[Neutron Monster]

Was this necessary?

Insults are all he has

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Where to start?

The GOP have nothing on her? When the FBI director says you lied, and are too stupid to handle classified info..... that is saying something.

Pretty sure the lord doesn't look with favor to mind altering drugs.

Quit with the Jesus argument, we all know, along with the lord, that homosexuality is an abomination.

Is Trump horrible? Yes

Is he better than Hillary? Apparently, many think so.

Amazing since Jesus said nothing about homosexuals. Guess your ability to infer things is just better than everyone who has ever read the Bible...

 

[WCS Coach]

I think you should stick to a topic that you actually understand.....

Now what would that be again?

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I think you should stick to a topic that you actually understand.....

Now what would that be again?

Please, show me where Jesus referenced homosexuality or homosexuals. I'll wait.

 

[eaglesalumni]

Amazing since Jesus said nothing about homosexuals. Guess your ability to infer things is just better than everyone who has ever read the Bible...

Matthew 5:17

" Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the Prophets, I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

If you condone homosexuality, and accept it as normal, you are a different kind of Christian.

 

[WCS Coach]

He is

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Matthew 5:17

" Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the Prophets, I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

If you condone homosexuality, and accept it as normal, you are a different kind of Christian.

So according to you Levitical Law is still to be enforced? Please tell me that's what you're saying...pretty please.

 

[eaglesalumni]

Please, show me where Jesus referenced homosexuality or homosexuals. I'll wait.

Did Jesus also talk about Mary Jane, cell phones sex, tea bagging, Internet porn, cocaine?

Somehow, Christians have an idea what might be offensive to the lord.

 

[FistOH]

Gump troll crushed by fact. Yep.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Where to start?

The GOP have nothing on her? When the FBI director says you lied, and are too stupid to handle classified info..... that is saying something.

Pretty sure the lord doesn't look with favor to mind altering drugs.

Quit with the Jesus argument, we all know, along with the lord, that homosexuality is an abomination.

Is Trump horrible? Yes

Is he better than Hillary? Apparently, many think so.

Why isn't she indicted??20 years and MILLION OF DOLLARS wasted.

Mind altering drugs that He put here? Like tobacco and alcohol. Rethink that one.

Where did Jesus say a word about homosexuals?

You christians just pick and choose as usual. Learn the Bible son.

 

[FistOH]

Why isn't she indicted??20 years and MILLION OF DOLLARS wasted.

Mind altering drugs that He put here? Like tobacco and alcohol. Rethink that one.

Where did Jesus say a word about homosexuals?

You christians just pick and choose as usual. Learn the Bible son.

We appreciate your illiteracy and want to break the barrier of accepting you as a village idiot. We love you.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Did Jesus also talk about Mary Jane, cell phones sex, tea bagging, Internet porn, cocaine?

Somehow, Christians have an idea what might be offensive to the lord.

Christians INFER what they FEEL might be offensive to the Lord. I'm sure none if those inferences are EVER guided by personal prejudices...also, bad example, homosexuals existed during the time of Christ, oddly he never thought to mention them. If he was so against them, you would think He'd bring them up.

Also, Hillary thanked God tonight. Not so much with the Donald.

Just so we're clear, because you avoided the question, are we still bound to Levitical Law (according to you)?

 

[FistOH]

Christians INFER what they FEEL might be offensive to the Lord. I'm sure none if those inferences are EVER guided by personal prejudices...also, bad example, homosexuals existed during the time of Christ, oddly he never thought to mention them. If he was so against them, you would think He'd bring them up.

Also, Hillary thanked God tonight. Not so much with the Donald.

Just so we're clear, because you avoided the question, are we still bound to Levitical Law (according to you)?

Homosexuals have been around for thousands of years. I dislike the people that want to force upon that it's natural. And get elected for this reason. Hypocrisy. Is Hillary homosexual?

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Homosexuals have been around for thousands of years. I dislike the people that want to force upon that it's natural. And get elected for this reason. Hypocrisy. Is Hillary homosexual?

Homosexuality occurs in literally virtually all mammal species. Hard to argue that it's unnatural.

Personally if you don't like homosexuals, don't be homosexual. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one.

No one is forcing you to be gay. And usually the people who scream against it the most are the ones with lingering repressed homosexual tendencies. Are you crying out for help?

 

[eaglesalumni]

Why isn't she indicted??20 years and MILLION OF DOLLARS wasted.

Mind altering drugs that He put here? Like tobacco and alcohol. Rethink that one.

Where did Jesus say a word about homosexuals?

You christians just pick and choose as usual. Learn the Bible son.

Why isn't she indicted??20 years and MILLION OF DOLLARS wasted.

Mind altering drugs that He put here? Like tobacco and alcohol. Rethink that one.

Where did Jesus say a word about homosexuals?

You christians just pick and choose as usual. Learn the Bible son.

Why isn't she indicted?

That is probably a negative reflection of our judicial system vs a reflection of her innocence.

Mind altering drugs he put here?

I wasn't aware tobacco and alcohol were in the garden.

Jesus condones homosexuality?..........And I need to learn the bible son?

 

[FistOH]

Homosexuality occurs in literally virtually all mammal species. Hard to argue that it's unnatural.

Personally if you don't like homosexuals, don't be homosexual. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one.

No one is forcing you to be gay. And usually the people who scream against it the most are the ones with lingering repressed homosexual tendencies. Are you crying out for help?

No. And if it walks,crawls or swims they propogated the natural way. Sex is a choice, and people have discerning brains above animals. Are you the guy that has a special friend that is cow?

 

[eaglesalumni]

Christians INFER what they FEEL might be offensive to the Lord. I'm sure none if those inferences are EVER guided by personal prejudices...also, bad example, homosexuals existed during the time of Christ, oddly he never thought to mention them. If he was so against them, you would think He'd bring them up.

Also, Hillary thanked God tonight. Not so much with the Donald.

Just so we're clear, because you avoided the question, are we still bound to Levitical Law (according to you)?

Argue with the bible, I just quoted it.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Why isn't she indicted?

That is probably a negative reflection of our judicial system vs a reflection of her innocence.

Mind altering drugs he put here?

I wasn't aware tobacco and alcohol were in the garden.

Jesus condones homosexuality?..........And I need to learn the bible son?

I never said he condones it. I did however state (correctly) that Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. That's a fact. Unless of course we're going with the verse you gave, which would mean we're still under Levitical Law.

Still waiting on your clarification there, are we or are we not under Levitical Law?

 

[butterypopcorn05]

I'm not a bible expert, but if you can't find anything specifically against homosexuality--sexual attraction to the same sex--then surely you could agree that the bible would be against homosexual acts. That would just fall under the broader umbrella of lust or fornication outside of marriage.

That's probably where the biblical argument against homosexuality can be made best.

 

[eaglesalumni]

I never said he condones it. I did however state (correctly) that Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. That's a fact. Unless of course we're going with the verse you gave, which would mean we're still under Levitical Law.

Still waiting on your clarification there, are we or are we not under Levitical Law?

Are we?

I just quoted a bible verse.

Your the guy that claims he lives Christian values.

What say you ?

My I-pad is giving me fits and I am going to bed. I will be happy to learn more tm.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I'm not a bible expert, but if you can't find anything specifically against homosexuality--sexual attraction to the same sex--then surely you could agree that the bible would be against homosexual acts. That would just fall under the broader umbrella of lust or fornication outside of marriage.

That's probably where the biblical argument against homosexuality can be made best.

I'm interested in what Jesus said about it. The FACT that He said nothing about it is very telling.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Are we?

I just quoted a bible verse.

Your the guy that claims he lives Christian values.

What say you ?

My I-pad is giving me fits and I am going to bed. I will be happy to learn more tm.

Your quote had nothing to do with homosexuality UNLESS we as Christians are still bound by Levitical Law. I'm still waiting for you to answer that question.

Are we bound by Levitical Law as your verse (which doesn't mention homosexuality implicitly or explicitly otherwise) seems to indicate. So I need you to answer that question before we go on. If you choose to ignore or dodge the question again I'm just going to assume that you know you screwed up and don't want to get demolished.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Did Jesus also talk about Mary Jane, cell phones sex, tea bagging, Internet porn, cocaine?

Somehow, Christians have an idea what might be offensive to the lord.

Why isn't she indicted?

That is probably a negative reflection of our judicial system vs a reflection of her innocence.

Mind altering drugs he put here?

I wasn't aware tobacco and alcohol were in the garden.

Jesus condones homosexuality?..........And I need to learn the bible son?

20 years. NOTHING but wasted time and money yet the lemmings just lap it up.

So tobacco was placed here by man?!??!???!

Yes where did he say anything negative about homosexuals? Please be specific.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Jesus welcomed all sinners. This is why I accept them. But don't try to convince it's right. It ain't. I reject those that want to tell me it's right.
Think of this. Can you picture your father doing what they do? I can't either. Don't want to.

No because my dad is a straight man. Straight men don't typically engage in homosexual activities.

 

[WCS Coach]

Please, show me where Jesus referenced homosexuality or homosexuals. I'll wait.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I'll take by you just quoting what I said and not actually writing an answer to mean you realize that NOWHERE did Jesus speak out against homosexuality.