Article on every format used in Missouri HS football playoffs 1968-present.
http://www.ozarkpreps.com/articles/history-of-missouri-football-playoff-formats
http://www.ozarkpreps.com/articles/history-of-missouri-football-playoff-formats
Which Missouri HS Playoff format do you prefer?
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So you would like to see something more like they did from 1980-1987 then in the old points system?
Agreed. An 8 team district would look like this
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
winners advance
5 vs 6
7 vs 8
week 10 game for everyone but last game of the season regardless.
I like what we got, teams that get on a roll or get healthy or are playing the best ball at the end of the years stand a chance. So what you have a few blow outs let the kids play.
What about taking the top 6 in each district and having 7 and 8 play each other week 10. There were zero 1-8 upsets and very very few 2-7 upsets. It would eliminate the week 10 blowouts and reward teams for making the top 6. Just a thought.
let #1 play #2,,,,,,,,,,#3 play #4,,,,,,#5 play #6,,,,,,#7 play #8 first round
NO blowouts and the only thing that really matters is the best team comes out of the district
The new system is equitable in the fact that it gives everyone an opportunity on the field. The first couple of rounds aren't always pretty. The cream will always rise to the top.
Any kind of consolation game for 7 & 8 seeds is just silly. Either they are in the tourney or their season should be over.
In PA, they only let the biggest and richest school get a chance to make the playoffs... at least that is what it felt like
how about the pre-1968 choice? NO playoffs.. then anyone with a perfect record can proclaim themselves the best in the state lol 
Or like it was done pre-1979, with many state title games played on the home field of one of the participants...how about the pre-1968 choice? NO playoffs.. then anyone with a perfect record can proclaim themselves the best in the state lol
Like today...only just take 1-4. Let 5-8 play a season ending bowl game.
There were 3 2/7 upsets...most of them occurring in class 2. That is Class 1-4.
I don't believe there were any .All 1 and 2 seed that played won. Some classes the 1 and 2's have not played yet. I believe there was at least 3-4 6seeds over a 3. And 5-6 5 seeds over a 4.
Every other sport you have a shot at a state championship starting with districts, football should be the same way for those who want to do away with 5-8 seeds in districts. Current system is fine, everything always could use a few tweeks but it's not too bad overall.
My only question is how have 5 people voted for the old point system?????
Probably Doc guys! no one else would do that! ha ha. The point system was horrible!
A couple years ago Riverview Gardens was an 0-9, 8 seed. The beat the 1 seed (Clayton?) then the 5 seed (St. Dominic?) and lost a close one in the district championship game... or maybe the lost in OT to St. Dominic.. I'll have to look it up, but I was excited about it at the time
They beat 1 seed Clayton 24-20 then lost to 5 seed St. Dominic 3-0 in OT.A couple years ago Riverview Gardens was an 0-9, 8 seed. The beat the 1 seed (Clayton?) then the 5 seed (St. Dominic?) and lost a close one in the district championship game... or maybe the lost in OT to St. Dominic.. I'll have to look it up, but I was excited about it at the time
It is my belief that the disparity between the "haves" and "have nots" has grown substantially in recent years. For a number of reasons, bad teams have become REAL bad. Like, barely being able to field a team or playing players that have no business playing on a Friday night, for safety reasons. The 1's playing 8's only exacerbates their problems. Sometimes, due to defections, injuries, etc., they are barely surviving by Week 10. It is in nobody's best interest to play the vast majority of those games. Not many of those teams are harboring hope of winning state as an 8 seed. They are dreading the last week of the season, if they are even sticking around to play it. Of course, the numbers issue is bigger in smaller schools, but it's not exclusive to smaller schools.
Name them I just went through and didn't see any. You can go to the MSHSAA site . All 2 seeds that played won. dist 8 Lexington won dist 3 Mt. Grove won Dist 4 Fair Grove won Dist 6 Palmyra won and dist 5 S. Callaway won Dist 1,2,7 2 seeds haven't played yet.
You may have looked at wrong games. The 2 seed is the top team in the 3rd game down.
I voted for the current setup but I could be convinced to go back to the 88-07 system.
Agreed. 8 seeds dread finishing their season knowing they will have a running clock. 1 seeds only risk injuries. Even those few 7 over 2 upsets doesn't make it worth it to me to continue these games. Top four play for districts. Bottom four play week 10 and get ready for winter sports. In districts with uneven number teams it is still easy.
7 team districts example
1 seed-bye
2 vs 3
winners move on
4 vs 5 week 10 season over
6 vs 7 week 10 season over
5 team district
1 seed-bye
2 vs 3
winners move on
4 vs 5 week 10 season over
I like the idea of everyone playing each team in their district in the regular season. Would make seeding easier and eliminate teams playing a cupcake schedule to make the district bracket.
You wouldn't even need to do that. Make it a 10 game season, there would be one less round of the playoffs since you wouldn't need what Week 10 now has become.
Yet, Floridian and Texan h.s. football is regarded as some of, if not the best in the nation.
No, but #8 seed Ray-Pec took #1 seed LSW to double overtime. From all reports that I have heard, they were more than capable of being competitive in the next round.
That is why I have always preferred the old 4 team district round robin with one advancing. The teams would agree upon the rotation from cycle to cycle. Many times you would have two 2-0 teams and two 0-2 teams facing off final week. And those occasional four 1-1 teams facing off was truly exciting.
If you are going to use a points system in the regular season to seed districts then you have to include everyone. Scheduling and conference affiliation have a lot, besides winning your schedule of how points are accumulated and where you are seeded. Schools like Webb City that are a Class 4 in a mostly Class 5 Conference will always accumulate more district points than a Harrisonville (Class 4) who is in a conference with Class 3 & 4 teams. IMO a 10 Game schedule with 3 at large games followed by 7 District game during the regular season with the top 2 teams advancing to playoffs would be ideal. Seed the state playoff tournament with those teams and play it off. Get ride of conference and points systems. It would be based on how you competed against school's in your own classification throughout the entire season once your district portion of the schedule began.
There could be a few tweaks to the current point system, main one being to fix the Class multiplier somehow. I also don't like the automatic swapping of spots no matter the points or records of the two teams based solely on head to head result, especially when you consider this only applies to two teams seeded consecutively and only one spot can be lost per team. In the grand scheme of things these are minor issues, and the current system is the most fair way to crown a champion.
I LOVE that they rotate the quarterfinal and semifinal match-up's now. We get to see teams collide that normally wouldn't except for the final. Makes for longer trips some years, but the added bonus of having new places for Webbies to complain about seating arrangements more than compensates for it.
I LOVE that they rotate the quarterfinal and semifinal match-up's now. We get to see teams collide that normally wouldn't except for the final. Makes for longer trips some years, but the added bonus of having new places for Webbies to complain about seating arrangements more than compensates for it.
If you think about it the whole idea of conference's is more of a pre-playoffs concept. Winning your conference was everything. Even in the early points system it was a big deal because that might be your only attainable achievement. But in today's format with playoffs most would rather make a deep playoff run and have a shot at a state championship than win a conference title. I know last year when Grain Valley won the MRVC West and we beat them for the District Championship and made the run to win the State Championship that they would trade that conference title in a minute for the opportunity to make that run.
Yeah population helps.
Texas
Total Population - 28,797,290
Houston, TX - 2,303,482
DFW Metroplex, TX - 2,172,042
San Antonio, TX - 1,492,510
Austin, TX - 947,890
El Paseo, TX - 683,080
Florida
Total population - 20,636,975
Jacksonville, FL - 880,619
Miami, FL - 453,579
Missouri
Total population - 5,988,927
Kansas City - 481,420
St. Louis - 315,000
Texas has cities with almost the same total population as the entire state of Missouri, of course they will have talent available.
