Remember Cassville from a few years ago? I think we are that good again. And can keep up with Lamar. But I’ve watched Lamar this year..... The lines are HUGE for class 2. It’s crazy. I think Lamar wins. But only by a 7.
Undefeated Lamar at Undeafted Cassville.
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Remember Cassville from a few years ago? I think we are that good again. And can keep up with Lamar. But I’ve watched Lamar this year..... The lines are HUGE for class 2. It’s crazy. I think Lamar wins. But only by a 7.
I don't think that this Lamar team is as dominant as some of the other teams in their run. I also don't think Cassville is as talented as 2009 and 2010 even though they lost in 2010. Cassville might have more speed this year, but I think there are some pieces missing when you compare them to those previous teams.
With that said. I think this game really comes down to the Cassville OL. If they can play physical and let Cassville maintain drives then I think Cassville wins.
With that said. I think this game really comes down to the Cassville OL. If they can play physical and let Cassville maintain drives then I think Cassville wins.
Hmm 7 state titles in a row and only 3 Conference championship...Looks like Lamar has choked in a few big games when the Conference championship was on the line? To wear the crown you have to deliver and not make excuses when you don't, or you don't deserve the crown.
I don't have any idea how this game is going to play out. I have not seen Cassville this year. From looking at their game scores and from what everyone on here has been saying, I think it should be a good game. Cassville is more than capable of stopping Lamar's streak. It will be the toughest game for each team so far, and that is what both teams need heading to the playoffs. But, win or lose, that takes nothing away from what Lamar has done this past decade. Since the beginning of 2011, in conference play Lamar is:
5-2 vs Class 3 Cassville
3-2 vs Class 4 Carl Junction
7-1 vs Class 3 Seneca - turboing Seneca in their Class 3 State Runner-up
year
8-0 vs Class 3 and this year Class 4 Monett- beating Monett by two
touchdowns the year Monett played for a Class 3 State
Championship
8-0 vs Class 3 Aurora
7-0 vs Class 3 Mt. Vernon-turboing Mt. Vernon last year when Mt. Vernon
played for a Class 3 State Championship
8-0 vs Class 3 and now Class 2 East Newton
3-0 vs Class 4 McDonald County
1-0 vs Class 3 Nevada
1-0 vs Class 3 Logan-Rogersville
1-0 vs Class 3 Hollister
So during this span, Lamar is 52-5 in conference play, with 29 straight wins, with about 90% of those games being turboed.
Overall, they are 106-5 with about 90% of those being turbo clocked.
And currently own the longest winning streak in the country, 57 straight victories.
But, I guess that is not enough to be called "dominating" or on the same level as Seneca or Cassville.
5-2 vs Class 3 Cassville
3-2 vs Class 4 Carl Junction
7-1 vs Class 3 Seneca - turboing Seneca in their Class 3 State Runner-up
year
8-0 vs Class 3 and this year Class 4 Monett- beating Monett by two
touchdowns the year Monett played for a Class 3 State
Championship
8-0 vs Class 3 Aurora
7-0 vs Class 3 Mt. Vernon-turboing Mt. Vernon last year when Mt. Vernon
played for a Class 3 State Championship
8-0 vs Class 3 and now Class 2 East Newton
3-0 vs Class 4 McDonald County
1-0 vs Class 3 Nevada
1-0 vs Class 3 Logan-Rogersville
1-0 vs Class 3 Hollister
So during this span, Lamar is 52-5 in conference play, with 29 straight wins, with about 90% of those games being turboed.
Overall, they are 106-5 with about 90% of those being turbo clocked.
And currently own the longest winning streak in the country, 57 straight victories.
But, I guess that is not enough to be called "dominating" or on the same level as Seneca or Cassville.
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Is that with MSSU great and long time NFL player Barbre? Sorry if I butchered the spelling. I think that’s around the time they had 3 legit state contenders in the big 8 like I asked Bullit earlier
OMG does this make you happy. Lamar is the GREATEST THERE EVER WAS!!!! when we see you on the street we will bow our heads in shame as we know nobody will every be equal from this day forward to your awesomeness!!!
In Cassville's 4 year run 2009 10 11 and 12. They were 28-0 in the conference. I think they played 1 game that was decided by 1 score or less in that time. I would say that is what Bullit is trying to point out. What Lamar has done in conference play has been done before them for a little longer period of time.
Technically speaking............you need to win this year to tie Cassville's dominance on the conference over the same amount of time. If you want to take Cassville on a 8 year run they had 4 losses over 8 years. That also adds 1 more Big 8 title. If Lamar beats Cassville you will also have 4 losses over 8 years and 4 titles vs Cassville 4 losses over 8 years and 5 titles. Not quite a tie, but pretty close. This makes this game huge now that it will settle a Mosports argument well kind of. 5 titles vs 4........still have to give the edge to Cassville.
Not that this really makes any difference at all and I can't believe that I'm agreeing with Bullit.
Technically speaking............you need to win this year to tie Cassville's dominance on the conference over the same amount of time. If you want to take Cassville on a 8 year run they had 4 losses over 8 years. That also adds 1 more Big 8 title. If Lamar beats Cassville you will also have 4 losses over 8 years and 4 titles vs Cassville 4 losses over 8 years and 5 titles. Not quite a tie, but pretty close. This makes this game huge now that it will settle a Mosports argument well kind of. 5 titles vs 4........still have to give the edge to Cassville.
Not that this really makes any difference at all and I can't believe that I'm agreeing with Bullit.
Cassville 05 06 was better than the state teams and didn’t get deep in the playoffs at all
You just need to re read everything that was said Your just not getting it
They were for sure better than the 2008 team. I actually think the best team may have been 2010 that lost to Richmond. If not 2010 then it was the 2005 team. 2006 was a year that Cassville has to really look back on and scratch their heads. I know what happened and watched it all take place, but that team should have never lost in districts.
That team was absolutely monsterous across the board. They probably would have lost to MV in my opinion that year but man they were just a kick you butt type of football team. I remember there runningback looked like he was in his mid 20’s
they went to semis with barbre. Fun fact coach bailey is the one who recruited him to moso. Saw him playing pickup hoops at a joplin park. Grabbed a rebound went coast to coast and jammed it down at 280 lbs
Is that the year they gave up the 28-0 lead at halftime to an ok Seneca team? I was friends with some family of that team and Seneca switched in there speedy WR who played college ball to running back and Cassville had no answer for it. Honestly might be confusing this for another year though
That was the year. There was an incident just before halftime on the Cassville sideline. The score was 28-0 just before that happened. I think it changed the mentality of the players and they just didn't respond well after that.
I've always said had MV and Cassville played the reg season game. Cassville would have lost. That team was pretty cocky and I think everyone learned a lesson from above. Maybe they would have learned it before the Seneca game and it ending their season.
I've always said had MV and Cassville played the reg season game. Cassville would have lost. That team was pretty cocky and I think everyone learned a lesson from above. Maybe they would have learned it before the Seneca game and it ending their season.
Oh I don't want to call anyone out and in the scheme of things it shouldn't have had anything to do with the outcome of the game. I think that team just needed to be humbled a bit and it was unfortunate that it happened at that time. I think everyone learned from that night though.
In Cassville's 4 year run 2009 10 11 and 12. They were 28-0 in the conference. I think they played 1 game that was decided by 1 score or less in that time. I would say that is what Bullit is trying to point out. What Lamar has done in conference play has been done before them for a little longer period of time.
Technically speaking............you need to win this year to tie Cassville's dominance on the conference over the same amount of time. If you want to take Cassville on a 8 year run they had 4 losses over 8 years. That also adds 1 more Big 8 title. If Lamar beats Cassville you will also have 4 losses over 8 years and 4 titles vs Cassville 4 losses over 8 years and 5 titles. Not quite a tie, but pretty close. This makes this game huge now that it will settle a Mosports argument well kind of. 5 titles vs 4........still have to give the edge to Cassville.
Not that this really makes any difference at all and I can't believe that I'm agreeing with Bullit.
Yeah crap we need to keep all of this in perspective....me and blkdayz friendship is based on liking to argue with each other more than agreeing....LOL
The 2010 Cassville team had several injuries in 2010 that they didn't have in the previous two runs, at full strength that was probably the best team of the 3.
Interestingly enough, that Big 8 28-0 Cassville run was jumpstarted after a 2008 loss at....Carl Junction.In Cassville's 4 year run 2009 10 11 and 12. They were 28-0 in the conference. I think they played 1 game that was decided by 1 score or less in that time. I would say that is what Bullit is trying to point out. What Lamar has done in conference play has been done before them for a little longer period of time.
Technically speaking............you need to win this year to tie Cassville's dominance on the conference over the same amount of time. If you want to take Cassville on a 8 year run they had 4 losses over 8 years. That also adds 1 more Big 8 title. If Lamar beats Cassville you will also have 4 losses over 8 years and 4 titles vs Cassville 4 losses over 8 years and 5 titles. Not quite a tie, but pretty close. This makes this game huge now that it will settle a Mosports argument well kind of. 5 titles vs 4........still have to give the edge to Cassville.
Not that this really makes any difference at all and I can't believe that I'm agreeing with Bullit.
Just as Lamar's current winning streak was jumpstarted after a loss at....Carl Junction.
Yes, that same gigantic 800+ student Class 4 program that was long overdue to leave these poor smaller schools of 300 to 700 students behind was the motivator for each of these very respectful and dominating runs by the Wildcats and Tigers.
I wish Cassville was a closer and safer drive for us neutral fans - should be a fun one to watch.
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unless Cassville brought in a new group of kids this year I think it means something
I think most of us are on the same page here.
I also think that the true blue Lamartians are for the most part pretty subdued on this sight. (One guy who used to post was a little over the top but I think he's gone away).
I don't think they have a driving need to be the center of attention here or anywhere else ... I think they just get tired of what they've accomplished being constantly compared to what others have accomplished. Because those comparisons tend to show them lacking ---based on who is making the comparison and where their loyalties lie.
Like .... you've accomplished A and B --- but, until you do C? Sit back and hush.
I get it. And, I clearly see we've all been complimentary of the Lamar program. I think it's probably just the "BUT" that everyone wants to tack on at the end that probably exhausts them. It kind of exhausts me as well. I love the Big 8, love the COC. I remember the domination Coach Hodge unleashed! Beautiful old-school football. I just prefer to let everyone's accomplishments stand on their own. Comparisons carried too far diminish accomplishment.
Happy Football Friday to All!
I also think that the true blue Lamartians are for the most part pretty subdued on this sight. (One guy who used to post was a little over the top but I think he's gone away).
I don't think they have a driving need to be the center of attention here or anywhere else ... I think they just get tired of what they've accomplished being constantly compared to what others have accomplished. Because those comparisons tend to show them lacking ---based on who is making the comparison and where their loyalties lie.
Like .... you've accomplished A and B --- but, until you do C? Sit back and hush.
I get it. And, I clearly see we've all been complimentary of the Lamar program. I think it's probably just the "BUT" that everyone wants to tack on at the end that probably exhausts them. It kind of exhausts me as well. I love the Big 8, love the COC. I remember the domination Coach Hodge unleashed! Beautiful old-school football. I just prefer to let everyone's accomplishments stand on their own. Comparisons carried too far diminish accomplishment.
Happy Football Friday to All!
Actually I think it was following a loss to Monett in 2008. Cassville lost to both. Monett would have been week 8-10. Also first year that 2 teams got out of a district. Cassville beat a very good Monett team in the playoffs the 2nd time around.
Cassville has 425 students (1/3 more than Lamar) (Aurora 440, Monett 574, Nevada 539) compared to Lamar's 299 students. Class 3 state Champ Monett's lone loss of the season was by 15 points to Lamar. (almost 1/2 the enrollment) As an outsider, I would say Lamars is easily more impressive. Unless the schools had roughly the same disparity in enrollment then as now, then Senecas would be acknowledged. Good luck to all teams tomorrow night.
Hmm 7 state titles in a row and only 3 Conference championship...Looks like Lamar has choked in a few big games when the Conference championship was on the line? To wear the crown you have to deliver and not make excuses when you don't, or you don't deserve the crown.
Yes Lamar has lost games to twice as big schools, or a class size bigger and hasn’t won the conference at times. I don’t think Lamar’s goal was to win under all circumstances. In fact it’s probably the smallest accomplishment in a football season if the final goal is the state championship. You don’t have to win conference to win state. I think we all need to settle down. Everyone is trying to win a argument. Not looking at the whole picture. Here’s the facts. Lamar has been the most dominant force in Mo for about 10 years now. (arguably Webb City of course) Lamar also hasn’t dominated a conference with bigger schools. Seneca has had some amazing teams. Lamar vs Cassville will be a great game. Ok let’s all enjoy the kind of football that’s being played in Mo. In all classes! Hope everyone enjoys the game!
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There's always lots of talk about class and school size. Playing up, class 2 beating class 3 and class 4.
However, I ask you this question:
Would you rather have 1,000 students in your school with 55 players on your roster, or 299 students in your school with 70 players on your roster?
And would you rather your offensive line average 6'2 and 285 pounds, or 6'1 and 270 pounds?
Believe me, in Lamar's case size of school is not a detriment. They're doing just fine, because of the program (brotherhood).
However, I ask you this question:
Would you rather have 1,000 students in your school with 55 players on your roster, or 299 students in your school with 70 players on your roster?
And would you rather your offensive line average 6'2 and 285 pounds, or 6'1 and 270 pounds?
Believe me, in Lamar's case size of school is not a detriment. They're doing just fine, because of the program (brotherhood).
My case of mentioning class size has nothing to do with your point. My point is expecting like some people on here that Lamar not “dominating” the big 8 is a unfair expectation. Becuase most to all class 2 schools would struggle to against this conference. I’m aware of Lamar’s roster size and etc. you are right.
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