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Good point, but Trinity was ahead at one point (12-10) and we both know it wasn't due to Trinity's rushing game.

dk if it would of made a difference but their 2 top running backs were out for the game.

“It was tough, real tough having our two top running backs being out,” Patterson said. “No excuses, the next man has to come up and be ready to play.”
 
Already has...

being investigated for beating up his girlfriend by police and nfl.
Isn't it funny how media outlets like ESPN are mum on this subject but have been all over lower profile athletes in months/years past? (must not want to ruin their story lines; #RealityJournalism)
 
Isn't it funny how media outlets like ESPN are mum on this subject but have been all over lower profile athletes in months/years past? (must not want to ruin their story lines; #RealityJournalism)

Its all about the $$$ which means all about the ratings
 
Trinty will not be back no one from St. Louis will be class 2 will be horrible next year. Lutheran North lost a ton. Trinity will have no lineman and some kids will leave. Brentwood lost a ton and very few kids play as it is.

Cardinal Ritter SHOULD be better. Wouldn't shock me if they make a run.

Malden or Caruthersville could represent the East next year.

2 Trinity players already signed

No they didn't. You can't sign until February.
 
Not true. He's been on multiple visits. I know he's already been to Northwest this fall.

I'm still unsure why the interest isn't more. Maybe there's something I don't see, or maybe the interest is there, but from what I remember I feel like Luke is every bit of the player that Beshore was, plus a little more size. Jared is tearing it up at MSU now, so I really figured Luke would be capable of similar sized schools...
 
Not true. He's been on multiple visits. I know he's already been to Northwest this fall.

I'm still unsure why the interest isn't more. Maybe there's something I don't see, or maybe the interest is there, but from what I remember I feel like Luke is every bit of the player that Beshore was, plus a little more size. Jared is tearing it up at MSU now, so I really figured Luke would be capable of similar sized schools...
Maybe if he puts on more weight he can play LB, but he won't be recruited for offense.
 
It seems to be a thing with SWMO schools; worthwhile prospects (Dylan Cole anyone???) going unnoticed...

...do coaches in SWMO need to do more to promote their kids? I know that generally goes against the "team" montra preached by a lot of rural coaches (the notion of promoting certain kids over others), but their surely has to be more to it than "SWMO kids just don't have the same talent"
 
It seems to be a thing with SWMO schools; worthwhile prospects (Dylan Cole anyone???) going unnoticed...

...do coaches in SWMO need to do more to promote their kids? I know that generally goes against the "team" montra preached by a lot of rural coaches (the notion of promoting certain kids over others), but their surely has to be more to it than "SWMO kids just don't have the same talent"
Some hidden gems in SWMO (Dylan Cole, DGB) but for the most part KC and STL will always be the best recruiting areas. Columbia area has been good recruiting area as well but the kids won't stay home, they go out of state.
 
It seems to be a thing with SWMO schools; worthwhile prospects (Dylan Cole anyone???) going unnoticed...

...do coaches in SWMO need to do more to promote their kids? I know that generally goes against the "team" montra preached by a lot of rural coaches (the notion of promoting certain kids over others), but their surely has to be more to it than "SWMO kids just don't have the same talent"

They're not "athletes", that's the problem.
 
It's not my skewed definition, it's what everyone one here meant by "athlete" or "athletic" and you know it.
You're the one who brought it up and you're the only one who keeps saying it; you're just trying real hard to make it sound like its everyone else's view point when you're the only one saying it (just because you say it doesn't make it true...)
 
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You're the one who brought it up and you're the only one who keeps saying it; you're just trying real hard to make it sound like its everyone else's view point when you're the only one saying it (just because you say it doesn't make it true...)

I just find it ironic that EVERYONE refers to Trinity as "athletic", but not Lamar.

Does Lamar not have athletes?

You want to call me out for calling everyone else out, fine.
 
Sorry I meant verbal committ for 2 Trinity players. Cardinal Ritter will not be very good
next year. Their program took a huge hit this year with the new coach. Some kids quit
and there was a lot of problems.They got worse as the season went on. Their 2 very good
running backs where put into different positions by new coaches. They always will have
talent but when you let an outstanding coach go and bring in another that totally
changes things that where going good things don't look good.
 
As soon as you tell me why Trinity is "athletic" (according to every poster on this site), but Lamar isn't.

You can try to make me the bad guy, I'm just asking a question.
There were a lot of people saying that. I too think it's a crazy statement.
 
There were a lot of people saying that. I too think it's a crazy statement.

Just funny that Lamar is "tough", "well coached", "disciplined", heck they can even be "fast", but not once have they been described as "athletic" (even though they obviously are).

Meanwhile if you listen to the description of Trinity, "athletic" is almost always the first adjective thrown out.

But yeah, I'm the bad guy for pointing it out.
 
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Well, race baiting aside...

One example is that Trinity is the only team this year with guys who had better breakaway speed and an ability to shake potential Lamar defenders from tackling. Multiple Lamar players were chased down from behind (very rare occurrence), and normally in a 50-60 yard span our secondary can catch up or get the angle and stop a break away runner, but not against Trinity. So ya, Lamar has great athletes, but IMO Trinity had better athletes. Lamar was the better team. Roll tide.
 
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Well, race baiting aside...

One example is that Trinity is the only team this year with guys who had better breakaway speed and an ability to shake potential Lamar defenders from tackling. Multiple Lamar players were chased down from behind (very rare occurrence), and normally in a 50-60 yard span our secondary can catch up or get the angle and stop a break away runner, but not against Trinity. So ya, Lamar has great athletes, but IMO Trinity had better athletes. Lamar was the better team. Roll tide.

Pointing out an observation of things that have repeatedly been said is race baiting...got it.
 
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As soon as you tell me why Trinity is "athletic" (according to every poster on this site), but Lamar isn't.
I'll meet you in the middle: You find me the post where someone said Lamar isn't athletic (because no one said that; that's just you projecting on everyone AGAIN), and I will tell you why Trinity was MORE athletic than Lamar (because people actually DID say that, and I agree...)

Did you happen to notice that two of Trinity's TD's were plays of over 40 yards? And on Trinity's first drive, they burned Lamar deep only for the receiver to drop the pass in the end zone. How do suppose such a thing could happen to the defense of a six time defending state champ? It's because Trinity had a PAINFULLY obvious speed and route running advantage (what most reasonable people would call on ATHLETIC advantage) over Lamar. I learned after that first Trinity drive that Lamar's only chance of stopping the passing attack of the Titans was the pass rush because the Tigers would not be able to consistently cover all that speed (make no mistake, it was the pass rush of Lamar that caused all those interceptions, not the Lamar secondary...)

Speaking of pass rush, one area in which Lamar actually had an athleticism advantage over Trinity was the line (and it's a good thing, because Trinity had an almost OVERWHELMING size advantage).

Now, are you actually going to tell all of us who thought Trinity had an athleticism advantage over Lamar what you are accusing us of? (or, in your own words, what you are "calling us out" for?)
 
Well, race baiting aside...

One example is that Trinity is the only team this year with guys who had better breakaway speed and an ability to shake potential Lamar defenders from tackling. Multiple Lamar players were chased down from behind (very rare occurrence), and normally in a 50-60 yard span our secondary can catch up or get the angle and stop a break away runner, but not against Trinity. So ya, Lamar has great athletes, but IMO Trinity had better athletes. Lamar was the better team. Roll tide.
^^^^^This^^^^^
 
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I'll meet you in the middle: You find me the post where someone said Lamar isn't athletic (because no one said that; that's just you projecting on everyone AGAIN), and I will tell you why Trinity was MORE athletic than Lamar (because people actually DID say that, and I agree...)

Did you happen to notice that two of Trinity's TD's were plays of over 40 yards? And on Trinity's first drive, they burned Lamar deep only for the receiver to drop the pass in the end zone. How do suppose such a thing could happen to the defense of a six time defending state champ? It's because Trinity had a PAINFULLY obvious speed and route running advantage (what most reasonable people would call on ATHLETIC advantage) over Lamar. I learned after that first Trinity drive that Lamar's only chance of stopping the passing attack of the Titans was the pass rush because the Tigers would not be able to consistently cover all that speed (make no mistake, it was the pass rush of Lamar that caused all those interceptions, not the Lamar secondary...)

Speaking of pass rush, one area in which Lamar actually had an athleticism advantage over Trinity was the line (and it's a good thing, because Trinity had an almost OVERWHELMING size advantage).

Now, are you actually going to tell all of us who thought Trinity had an athleticism advantage over Lamar what you are accusing us of? (or, in your own words, what you are "calling us out" for?)
34 yard run, 65 yard pass and 5 yard run. I would say Lamars D backs did a pretty good job. Pass rush was a big factor. if their wide receivers were that much more athletic Trinity should have just did a threestep drop and threw a bomb 30 to 40 yards down field. But wait, they did and ur right one was dropped, the others were intercepted by D backs who couldn't keep up with the receivers. The td pass was an out or a hitch route and the db was a little out of position and missed a tackle because of that receivers athleticism. I still don't think that that is a strong argument that they are so much more athletic
 
Lamar did not have better athletes than Trinity. Period. Lamar has a great program, their kids play their ass off, play the game the right way. Lamar beating Trinity is what makes football the greatest sport ever invented, it takes more than superior athletes to have sustained success.

If SWMO had better college talent they'd have more college players, they don't need more exposure.

Anyone who isn't from Lamar can easily say that Trinity had better athletes in that game.
 
Lamar did not have better athletes than Trinity. Period. Lamar has a great program, their kids play their ass off, play the game the right way. Lamar beating Trinity is what makes football the greatest sport ever invented, it takes more than superior athletes to have sustained success.

If SWMO had better college talent they'd have more college players, they don't need more exposure.

Anyone who isn't from Lamar can easily say that Trinity had better athletes in that game.
Maybe a couple of players. but if you're saying on a whole trinity is more athletic as a team then Lamar then you're absolutely crazy.
 
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Lamar did not have better athletes than Trinity. Period. Lamar has a great program, their kids play their ass off, play the game the right way. Lamar beating Trinity is what makes football the greatest sport ever invented, it takes more than superior athletes to have sustained success.

If SWMO had better college talent they'd have more college players, they don't need more exposure.

Anyone who isn't from Lamar can easily say that Trinity had better athletes in that game.

Anyone from Lamar can say it too...
 
I said the same thing about Zeke Elliott his senior year in high school (the year AFTER Rogersville beat him in the dome); he acted the same way as most of the Trinity kids did in almost every game I saw him play in high school (which was about a half dozen), with all the pouting and attitude...

...I've never lived it down since.

Moral of the story: Sadly, colleges and the NFL can do more with talent than they can with work ethic and discipline :(

Good lord, you're still whining about Elliot???????
 
Did everybody watch the line play, did everybody watch the linebacker play. is this argument about the top three athletic guys on each team, or is it about the entire team on both sides? Did anybody notice that lamars defensive end was kicking the Illinois verbal commits butt all day long and was also the leading rusher of with 115 yards on 15 carries. To bad he's not considered an elite athlete. What more do you have to do to be the best athlete on the field? Maybe there was three guys out there that could out run him. If that's what impresses you go watch track and field.
 
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I'll meet you in the middle: You find me the post where someone said Lamar isn't athletic (because no one said that; that's just you projecting on everyone AGAIN), and I will tell you why Trinity was MORE athletic than Lamar (because people actually DID say that, and I agree...)

Did you happen to notice that two of Trinity's TD's were plays of over 40 yards? And on Trinity's first drive, they burned Lamar deep only for the receiver to drop the pass in the end zone. How do suppose such a thing could happen to the defense of a six time defending state champ? It's because Trinity had a PAINFULLY obvious speed and route running advantage (what most reasonable people would call on ATHLETIC advantage) over Lamar. I learned after that first Trinity drive that Lamar's only chance of stopping the passing attack of the Titans was the pass rush because the Tigers would not be able to consistently cover all that speed (make no mistake, it was the pass rush of Lamar that caused all those interceptions, not the Lamar secondary...)

Speaking of pass rush, one area in which Lamar actually had an athleticism advantage over Trinity was the line (and it's a good thing, because Trinity had an almost OVERWHELMING size advantage).

Now, are you actually going to tell all of us who thought Trinity had an athleticism advantage over Lamar what you are accusing us of? (or, in your own words, what you are "calling us out" for?)

Don't believe I've accused anyone of anything. Just asked a question.

Why are you so upset/defensive over a simple question?
 
Did everybody watch the line play, did everybody watch the linebacker play. is this argument about the top three athletic guys on each team, or is it about the entire team on both sides? Did anybody notice that lamars defensive end was kicking the Illinois verbal commits butt all day long and was also the leading rusher of with 115 yards on 15 carries. To bad he's not considered an elite athlete. What more do you have to do to be the best athlete on the field? Maybe there was three guys out there that could out run him. If that's what impresses you go watch track and field.

This ^^^^
 
Don't believe I've accused anyone of anything. Just asked a question.

Why are you so upset/defensive over a simple question?
You said the following just a few posts up:

You want to call me out for calling everyone else out, fine.
So what exactly are you calling us out for???

I'm upset because I think I know what you were implying and it's bull shit! I won't stand for it! If I'm wrong about what you were implying, you can very easily clear it up by simply TELLING US ALL WHAT YOU WERE "CALLING US OUT" FOR.
 
Trinity is more athletic than Lamar because they're faster, they jump higher and stronger. Trinity players are getting scholarships to D1 schools not one kid on Lamar team I saw Friday will play D1 football. Lamar is well coached team, their kids all know their read/assignment and do their own job. Trinity made it to a state championship game not knowing/doing their assignment/read and just running by kids playing backyard football. Lamar kids have high football IQ and displined.
 
Trinity is more athletic than Lamar because they're faster, they jump higher and stronger. Trinity players are getting scholarships to D1 schools not one kid on Lamar team I saw Friday will play D1 football. Lamar is well coached team, their kids all know their read/assignment and do their own job. Trinity made it to a state championship game not knowing/doing their assignment/read and just running by kids playing backyard football. Lamar kids have high football IQ and displined.
Your argument lost all credibility when you said Trinity kids are stronger. LOL lamars 200 to 220 pound defensive ends threw Trinity's big boys around like rag dolls. Both of lamars lines did. And several times Lamars running backs drug the same big boys down the field for extra yards after they been wrapped up. Especially number 7.
 
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