Small public schools have zero chance

[FBisLife12]

I am torn on open enrollment. There is about 80 acres of land I would love to purchase and build a house on. The issue is it is in Verona's school district the land next to it is in Monett's but it is not for sale and if it was it would go for about $2,000 more an acre because it is in Monett's school district. So this means I have to pony up over $10,000 a month for my kids to go to Monett schools or just let them go to Verona which offers nothing. Be nice if I could just say hey I want to move my tax dollars over to Monett and let my kids go there. I just don't know, but small public schools like Verona don't offer and can't offer enough for kids.

I hear you. In STL, families that can afford to, move to affluent suburbs with higher property values and high tax bases. I understand why they do it. I chose to live in the city, but sent one of my kids to a private high school (and the other to the highest performing public high school in Missouri ... which happens to be a STL City school).

What I’D love to see is EVERY kid in Missouri get the type of funding more affluent suburban schools get. I want ALL of them to benefit, regardless of whether they’re in Ladue or Hayti. Open enrollment wouldn’t mean every kid could go to any high school they want to go to IF their families couldn’t provide transportation beyond a certain number of miles each district would give (which is what they do in Arizona).

Opening enrollment is highly unlikely to happen because “the haves” aren’t going to share money for schools with “the have nots”. In that respect, kids in small towns have much in common with kids in St. Louis City and other smaller suburbs here.

I’m totally down with splitting publics and privates for post season play. There’ll be fewer rounds and we could even have some of the public champions play the private champions at the end of the season.

 

[shoot90draw]

That’s not the issue. The issue is these places where 72% of the males in their schools “just so happen” to be D1 recruits.

A statistical anomaly preponderant in its infinitesimal improbability!

Oh stop trying to sound smart Raw!! Its not peppery!

 

[have an idea]

If they'd been private they wouldn't have broken any rules

Pembroke hill was a private school

 

[FBisLife12]

That’s not the issue. The issue is these places where 72% of the males in their schools “just so happen” to be D1 recruits.

A statistical anomaly preponderant in its infinitesimal improbability!

It isn’t against ANY state’s rules for families to choose to send their kids to the school of their choice. They don’t “just so happen” to get recruited and offered scholarships. It requires work by the players, their families, and their high school coaches. I don’t doubt Lamar had far more players over the last 8 years with the talent to play at the next level. What I also don’t doubt is that not seeing a single player from Lamar at any of the multi-college combines or at any Nike, Under Armour, or Adidas events had a lot to do with it.

I don’t think you know as much about the recruiting process as you do about which school has the best funnel cakes and quotes from “All The Right Moves”.

 

[bueno_Tuco]

Pembroke hill was a private school

Vashon got busted 3-4 years after them. Coach rented players from East St Louis apartments, furnished them cars and spending money. I think it was bank fraud he did jail time for but don’t remember for sure

 

[Duck_walk]

I could be wrong, but I think Vashon got busted because one of their players got shot in front of his house. And his house was in Jennings.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

nothing, but don't assume that all public schools want to play in the rec league division. again, what is the answer to the public schools that recruit or take the shady "move-ins"?

They don’t outside of KC or STL. And that’s giving you the benefit of the doubt that those public schools do. You could convince me BO does in Jefferson. But that’s about it. Also, show me the 3-5 star D1 athletes going to these public schools.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Valle barely has 150 kids in their entire school. Nice try, tho.

Early to mid 90s son.
Wish i still had programs

 

[Vallegrad2]

Umm pretty sure valle did back in the day

I haven't seen that many kids on the Valle sideline since the 1980's when they were class 2.

 

[bueno_Tuco]

That...uh...that’ll get it done. Weren’t a couple of them around 24 years old, too?

Yep, if you are going to cheat no reason to go half way

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I haven't seen that many kids on the Valle sideline since the 1980's when they were class 2.

It was early 90s so close

 

[BoosterBosko]

People forget how much power the booster club wields until it is time to run a coach outta town.

Youre darn right they do! Sometimes, the people who elect you need a little reminder of that too!

 

[hoop-daddy]

still cant figure out how maryville (a town of almost 12,000 or more) is in class 2 with towns of 4-5K?

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

still cant figure out how maryville (a town of almost 12,000 or more) is in class 2 with towns of 4-5K?

Can’t either. They shouldn’t be. They won’t be next year.

 

[Cards1968]

It's hard to take the OP seriously when he spelled Trinity correctly. Tighten that ship up @Nwalls , for real.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

It's hard to take the OP seriously when he spelled Trinity correctly. Tighten that ship up @Nwalls , for real.

How districts lineup this year? what district winner plays who? You are the man for this one.

 

[JNreturns]

Can’t either. They shouldn’t be. They won’t be next year.

Their enrollment numbers have been in the bottom quartile of Class 3 for a while. Possibly the college student population skews the number?

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Their enrollment numbers have been in the bottom quartile of Class 3 for a while. Possibly the college student population skews the number?

Yes that's a possibility. I could see that.

 

[Cards1968]

How districts lineup this year? what district winner plays who? You are the man for this one.

1/2 vs 7/8; 3/4 vs 5/6. Next year is reset back to normal.

 

[J. Kane]

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

1/2 vs 7/8; 3/4 vs 5/6. Next year is reset back to normal.

You the real MVP!

 

[bhunt95]

still cant figure out how maryville (a town of almost 12,000 or more) is in class 2 with towns of 4-5K?

City is about 10,000 + 7,000 college students.

But like I said before cost of housing has to do why there is not alot of families in the city.

 

[JNreturns]

City is about 10,000 + 7,000 college students.

But like I said before cost of housing has to do why there is not alot of families in the city.

Yeah, that makes sense considering their previous enrollment figures...which were on the lower end of Class 3.

 

[bullitpdq68]

still cant figure out how maryville (a town of almost 12,000 or more) is in class 2 with towns of 4-5K?

The population size of the town has nothing to do with how many kids live in that town and go to high school. Maryville is a college town that skews the numbers a bit.

 

[Cards1968]

Outside of Valle, a private school hasn't won a title since the first year after dropping the 'A' in C1 or C2. That's almost 20 years. The 20 year stretch before that had a ton more, with John Burroughs, St. Pius X, and Valle winning on the reg.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Outside of Valle, a private school hasn't won a title since the first year after dropping the 'A' in C1 or C2. That's almost 20 years. The 20 year stretch before that had a ton more, with John Burroughs, St. Pius X, and Valle winning on the reg.

True if the multiplier works correctly it will only happen one more time. (If LN wins). But it was going to be a constant problem if LN and Cardinal Ritter stayed in class 2 for the most part. They both are this year.

 

[Cards1968]

True if the multiplier works correctly it will only happen one more time. (If LN wins). But it was going to be a constant problem if LN and Cardinal Ritter stayed in class 2 for the most part. They both are this year.

Collecting talent hasn't equated to championship winning football so far for either of them. Trinty put together a mega team and won 1 title with it. Had they stayed in Class 2 they wouldn't even have that. Let's not make the boogeyman bigger than he really is.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Collecting talent hasn't equated to championship winning football so far for either of them. Trinty put together a mega team and won 1 title with it. Had they stayed in Class 2 they wouldn't even have that. Let's not make the boogeyman bigger than he really is.

It took Lamar and BO, two programs that had the talent to stop it. RPO with that talent last season with BO would have competed in class 4. And we all know how rare of a feat Lamar accomplished. In most states I feel like Both of those schools in those smaller classes would have ran the table against rural communities. No knock against Lamar but I don’t think they can stop Maryville or LN. Maryville can compete with LN but I doubt they will beat them. Just saying.

 

[BearsCountry]

still cant figure out how maryville (a town of almost 12,000 or more) is in class 2 with towns of 4-5K?

Because 12,000 people in a school district = equals a Class 2 school district population wise.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Combined, they have more 5 star recruits than The University of Michigan.

I almost believe you. That’s how outrageous this is.

 

[Cards1968]

Because 12,000 people in a school district = equals a Class 3 school district population wise.

FIFY

 

[kaching]

I think taking away the multiplier will be something many public schools will regret. I get it that the very successful private school programs (in all sports) will be bumped up a class but that still leaves a lot of private schools that will probably drop down a class without the current multiplier.
Starting next year, say a public and a pvt school have the same enrollment of let’s say 200. It’s unfair to the public school as they don’t have the ability to recruit outside of their district.

 

[BoosterBosko]

It isn’t against ANY state’s rules for families to choose to send their kids to the school of their choice. They don’t “just so happen” to get recruited and offered scholarships. It requires work by the players, their families, and their high school coaches. I don’t doubt Lamar had far more players over the last 8 years with the talent to play at the next level. What I also don’t doubt is that not seeing a single player from Lamar at any of the multi-college combines or at any Nike, Under Armour, or Adidas events had a lot to do with it.

I don’t think you know as much about the recruiting process as you do about which school has the best funnel cakes and quotes from “All The Right Moves”.

Easy there! Funnel cake and documentary talk is not to be taken lightly on here! Funnel cakes have long been discussed on here, well before any Doc Guy showed up. Except maybe Shoot.

 

[Cards1968]

I don’t think I’ve ever eaten a funnel cake.

 

[BoosterBosko]

I don’t think I’ve ever eaten a funnel cake. As far as knowing anything about the recruiting process....well....you never really know who you’re chatting with on here, do you?

To say the reason that Trinity, Lutheran North, etc. has all those D 1 prospects is due to attending “Under Armour camps” is the reason I just coughed iced tea all over my tablet screen. Thanks, crusader!

Seriously Raw? How can you never have eaten a funnel cake???

 

[bullitpdq68]

I don’t think I’ve ever eaten a funnel cake. As far as knowing anything about the recruiting process....well....you never really know who you’re chatting with on here, do you?

To say the reason that Trinity, Lutheran North, etc. has all those D 1 prospects is due to attending “Under Armour camps” is the reason I just coughed iced tea all over my tablet screen. Thanks, crusader!

Dang it Raw, you have never eaten a funnel cake, How in the heck have you never tasted one! That is just crazy talk. Next I bet you will tell me you have never wrapped your lips around 3/4 pound juicy wiener...Or better known as a Monett hotdog, best and biggest in SWMO maybe all of Missouri!

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

I’m being a tad facetious, but only a tad.

You are always a hoot Raw!

 

[BoosterBosko]

Dang it Raw, you have never eaten a funnel cake, How in the heck have you never tasted one! That is just crazy talk. Next I bet you will tell me you have never wrapped your lips around 3/4 pound juicy wiener...Or better known as a Monett hotdog, best and biggest in SWMO maybe all of Missouri!

Whoa whoa whoa!! Talk like that will Mox's attention, and thats attention you dont want!

 

[bullitpdq68]

Whoa whoa whoa!! Talk like that will Mox's attention, and thats attention you dont want!

I am sure Mox has had a few....

 

[J. Kane]