SG VS VALLE
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Last year, mid season BO and Valle Catholic scheduled a make up game due to covid with a 1-2 day advance. BO tried to get them to meet half way in Union, they said no. Then they said what about Jefferson County, they said no. BO leadership then told the AD to just go to their house. The game went down to the wire and Valle came out on top in a heavily fought matchup with no time to prepare for it.
Earlier in that week LN contacted Valle Catholic about a covid make up game and they said no stating they would be seeing them in the playoffs, LN was not happy when BO and VC made a game later that week.
Moving on.
Last week Valle Catholic Volleyball played BO in the semis for Class 3. BO won and then won state. A little revenge there. I heard ahead of this matchup of quite a bit of smack talk going around.
I would like to see VC win and then eventually meet up with BO down the road in football but that is quite a tall order at this point. St. Mary's already had their way with all of the other St Louis area private schools LN, CR, and Trinity (supposively they still exist). So to say Valle has their hands full is quite an understatement.
Earlier in that week LN contacted Valle Catholic about a covid make up game and they said no stating they would be seeing them in the playoffs, LN was not happy when BO and VC made a game later that week.
Moving on.
Last week Valle Catholic Volleyball played BO in the semis for Class 3. BO won and then won state. A little revenge there. I heard ahead of this matchup of quite a bit of smack talk going around.
I would like to see VC win and then eventually meet up with BO down the road in football but that is quite a tall order at this point. St. Mary's already had their way with all of the other St Louis area private schools LN, CR, and Trinity (supposively they still exist). So to say Valle has their hands full is quite an understatement.
That is Trinity out of Louisville. Class 6 Enrollment of about 1,200. Not the one from St. Louis. Very Good win.
Yes they are, they were good last year, then got all of Trinity’s kids from “transferring”. They should win state. If they don’t it’s on them.
I understand why MSHSAA has made the success rule for private schools but VC doesn't recruit, they play with what they have all along. Teams love to make excuses when they get beat by VC but the truth is VC has no business being in class 3 with barely over 100 students in volleyball, football or baseball. There is no off season for all three of those sports at VC. I get it that VC shouldn't be in class 1, but to skip over class 2 makes no sense to me. Name another county in MO the size of Ste Gen with 2 class 3 schools in it. There are none. VC doesn't get every athlete nor do they get every good athlete in the county. They have successful programs, I know no one wants to hear it and would rather make excuses than just admitting they got beat by a better program. VC is the undersized team every week, they should not have to play a school the size of St. Mary in football, but they will and will try to give them a game.
Don't worry they should be back at class 2 next season. I do understand where you are coming from though. If they stayed class 1, no telling how many state championships they would have. I do not know about the recruiting stuff, but I do know the kids that are there put in as much work as anyone in the state and are dedicated to it! That is why they have great success. I also know that they will be well prepared for Friday's game. Best of luck to them Friday.
If there were only SG county kids you'd have a point.
Valle should be class 2. I know they enjoyed playing Lamar.
An announcer for St Dom said he waited for the VC bus to arrive at their place to get a look at VC. Said he was shocked how little the kids were and how few of them, and he's not lying. St Dom coach also commented that he thought VC's offensive line is better than St Mary's. We will see Friday night, that's why they play the game
You always make comments like that but have no proof because it's a bullsh*t comment. You know nothing about Sainte Genevieve so stop acting like you do troll, fish somewhere else. I didn't say VC could compete in class 2, Lamar proved it but at least VC had to balls to schedule them. Lamar kids are huge compared to VC and very well coached, a great program for sure. I'm not embarrassed about losing to them, they were and are a better program (see how easy that is)
Get your shots in, won't be hearing from you after Friday. YOU ARE WELCOME MO SPORTS
Valle's website even stated at one point they served a neighboring county.
Take it up with them!
Valle will take anybody that wants to come to their school, I remember you making a comment about keeping enrollment down to stay in class 1 (so which is it), the kids on the football team all live in Ste Gen county, if valle accepts a student from another county, doesn't mean they play sports. Once again, you know nothing about Sainte Genevieve, stop acting like you do
We enjoyed playing VC as well. I remember reading the SEMO Boards where people were saying. “Where even is Lamar” “who are they?” And this isn’t a dig it was just funny. “They haven’t played somebody like us before”
Slightly off topic, but curious to hear from the Valle folks on which team from the last decade and a half or so they think were their best teams?
I don't have a dog in the fight, and believe that private schools should be in their own division come playoff time. That being said, a quick look at the Valle roster shows Basler (2), Bauman, Fallert (3), Giesler (2), Okenfuss, Viox (2) as last names. Those have been Valle last names for years and years. I assume I am correct when I say Valle isn't bringing in kids from a couple dozen zip codes.
Valle plays with what they have, always have. They have the same advantage as St Vincent but are being penalized for being successful. If Valle is class 3, all city privates should be class 6
If you look at SV's roster they have some 'valle names' as well. That's a silly argument.
Valle services more than one county. To argue otherwise is foolish.
Nobody on this thread brought up recruiting (that i see) besides valle fanboys.
Now having the same talent pool as harrisonville to draw from and playing class 1 is a completely different topic.
Regardless if they recruit or not they have a different set of rules than any public school and thus should have a multiplier kids at all the other private schools work hard to. The formula is there for a reason a population of 15000 to draw from roughly would put you in class 4. They aren't cheaters and neither are any of the privates but they do have different rules and hard work doesn't negate that.
If you got every athlete I would agree with you, they barely have over 100 students (coed). I don't have a problem with the multiplier, I have a problem with the "success factor". If you move one up, move them all up. Like I said before, under your theory, make all city privates class 6
How many student's DON'T play sports?
47/52 boys out for football. Name one public school that has that happening.
104 /2=52
47 out of 52 boys on roster.
pretty good percentage.
Newsflash: no public schools have that.
Why would they move up to 6? Valle is by far the most successful small school private in the last 20 years. My theory is the success factor works to even the playing field. I'm sorry that a school that has the same rules as your program could have a better team than you based on there location... that must really be frustrating for you... could you imagine if they instead could only take kids within the boundaries of the district to play how unfair would that be.
Your geographic boundary is class 3 or 4 (at least). Not sure what jefferson county pop is.
You may be class 6!
Personally I enjoy when private schools get a to play private schools and complain about how unfair it is, this thread made my morning.
Kind of like feeling sorry for a millionaire complaing about their taxes, hard to feel sorry huh.
