I would like some feedback on what type of suspension is appropriate for an athlete who has an alcohol/drug infraction. I know there are several different policies on this topic. Personally, I think it should be a 365 day suspension from all extra-curricular activities. What do you guys/gals think?
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What kind of infraction? I would want to have a lot of information to make a good educated decision... There is a big difference in a kid that gets caught in a car that smells like weed and a kid that has an 8 ball of coke on him that he is planning to sell at school. Was the police involved? Was it guilt by association? There is no blanket that you can throw over all "drug" infractions.
The Mox agrees. Was he out at the strip club, or stealing a cop car? As a Brown educated lawyer you have to know all the facts. Give The Mox a call if your boy needs some legal assistance.
Possession of alcohol I would think a 2-3 week suspension from all activities first offense, second offense 365 days
Illegal drug possession 365 days, drug dealing they gone and hopefully in jail
Tobacco use 2-3 week suspension first offense, 365 days second offense
I wouldn't want to go on heresay. I mean a verifiable offense, where the kid is in possesion, or under the influence.
While he might have paid for his Brown education in some less than questionable ways, he is a good lawyer. There has been a video going around, that allegedly shows me slashing some tires. The Mox has squashed those allegations!The Mox agrees. Was he out at the strip club, or stealing a cop car? As a Brown educated lawyer you have to know all the facts. Give The Mox a call if your boy needs some legal assistance.
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The Mox was just letting people know that Bosko would never slash the tires of a coach. Bosko is not only the Booster Club president, but a model citizen for the town of Ampipe and a roll model that all student-athletes should look up to.
They're under 21 and most under 18. It's all illegal drug possession.
I would say it would depend on the substance. If it is a vape that the parents bought them and it was on school property should be a game or two the first time and more if it continues. If it is illegal drugs there should be no tolerance. First offence make it a year suspension from all activities.
Usually these things depend on how much influence parents have in your community. Proceed accordingly.
Dad works at bank, prestigious law firm, member of Rotary or deacon at church, etc. = Whole thing swept under the rug, athlete starts every game.
One or more parents work while standing on feet and not sitting behind a desk = banned for life.
Dad works at bank, prestigious law firm, member of Rotary or deacon at church, etc. = Whole thing swept under the rug, athlete starts every game.
One or more parents work while standing on feet and not sitting behind a desk = banned for life.
I say suspend him or her for a game, rebrand them as a underclassman and let them play said game (of course make sure all noticeable tattoos are covered)... then let the chips fall as they may.
I believe a typical policy is, if convicted, the student athlete is out until they serve whatever penalty they have legally. So usually however long it takes for them to complete their community service. If there isn't any legal consequences then I'm sure each school has their own consequences in their handbook
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I think every instance should be dealt with on a case by case basis.....I hate zero tolerance b.s., that's the lazy way out. remember the chiefs player and k-state football player who got kicked out of the shawnee mission school district because he was seen at a party where beer was present or something dumb like that? punishment has to fit the crime
Depends on how good of a player he is, and if you have any freshman that kind of look like him. (Preferably with matching tattoos)
It's "more" ok for the student-athlete to violate state law, MSHSAA policy, and district policy if the Cleavers get together on the patio for some steaks and wine, but if Johnny and Pony Boy violate the same laws and policies sitting on a curb sucking down a 40, it's "less" ok.
I think it has to do more with who are your parents....If your dad is on the school board and you are sitting on the curb sucking down a 40 it is okay. If your parents work at a chicken or Window factory and you are sitting on the back porch drinking some wine with mom and dad you all are going to jail.
But here is the real problem, most of the time these kids are under age so the school/s say they cannot discuss the punishment with anybody else, so nobody never really sees how things are truly handled behind closed doors and how unfairly the punishments are dished out depending on the kids and parents.
Yea I remember when my older brother was playing at Webb back in the early 60’s after winning conference at Cassville I think,,every player getting back on the bus got a big cigar from coach to celebrate a job well done. Not sure that it wasn’t a good thing
Very wise advice for a young coach "writing" a policy.
Also to other posts, the last I knew, consumption of alcohol on parents property with their permission and under their supervision is not a violation of the liquor laws of possession and consumption. On the wine at mass issue, wouldn't trying to regulate that run into the establishment clause? Its not like you are talking about them hanging around the keg at a Catholic wedding.
I use to think hey 365 them. But after being a foster parent and seeing the back ground that some kids come from I believe some kids need sports and the discipline and relief from what they come from that participating in a sport brings more than the other. Some kids the only adult figure and guidance they get is by being on a team and from those coaches. So to kick them off for 365 days at times might reinforce what they are hearing and seeing at home that they are worthless. They may go ahead and drop out of school, they may go further into a life of drugs and crime. I don't want to say all kids can be saved, but I think you need to try and a blanket policy for all is not always the best way to handle things.
I have always heard that if they are participating in something on Friday nights is better than out causing trouble and I believe that. Sure some kids know better and at some point you have to just go ahead and say man we have given you the tools to change and this is not working. But I think you need to help kids and just kicking them to the curb for a mistake is not always the best way for all kids.
Thanks for your input. I am not going to "beat the bushes" trying to find a kid making a mistake. But there are going to be situations that have to be dealt with.
