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Preseason Projected Record for each top 10 team.

Which team is the biggest surprise overall? (on the positive side, so not Lamar)(Based on record)

  • Pierce City

    Votes: 1 3.6%

  • Warsaw

    Votes: 4 14.3%

  • Mt. Vernon

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kirksville

    Votes: 11 39.3%

  • Carthage

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Lee's Summit

    Votes: 9 32.1%

  • Other...

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Total voters
    28
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Class 1

1) St. Vincent (6-2)
2) Marionville (8-0)
3) Adrian (7-1)
4) Tipton (5-3)
5) Ash Grove (3-5)
6) Van-Far (4-4)
7) Pierce City (1-7) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
8) Penney (4-3)
9) Windsor (4-4)
10) Midway (3-5)

Class 2

1) Valle Catholic (9-1)
2) Warsaw (5-3) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
3) Bowling Green (7-1)
4) Lafayette County (7-1)
5) Fair Grove (7-1)
6) South Shelby (8-1)
7) Lamar (7-1)
8) Mid-Buchanan (7-1)
9) Caruthersville (5-3)
10) Ava (8-0)

Class 3

1) Seneca (7-1)
2) Blair Oaks (7-1)
3) Mt. Vernon (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
4) Maryville (4-3)
5) Borgia (7-1)
6) Strafford (7-1)
7) Dexter (6-3)
8) Lift for Life (4-6)
9) Southern Boone (6-2)
10) Boonville (4-4)

Class 4

1) Kearney
2) Lutheran North
3) Smithville (6-2)
4) Festus
5) Kirksville (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
6) Warrenton (7-1)
7) Hillsboro (7-1)
8) Nevada (6-2)
9) Osage (4-4)
10) Warrensburg (4-4)

Class 5

1) Cardinal Ritter (6-1)
2) Platte County (6-1)
3) St. Pius X (6-2)
4) Carthage (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Eureka
6) Helias (7-1)
7) Republic (8-2)
8) Branson (7-1)
9) Lafayette (Wildwood)
10) Grain Valley

Class 6

1) LSN (6-1)
2) CBC
3) Nixa (7-1)
4) Lee's Summit (3-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Blue Springs South
6) Liberty North
7) Blue Springs
8) Rockhurst (6-1)
9) De Smet (5-2)
10) Liberty

Some of the bigger schools didn't have info but I don't think it changed the overall outcome of the discussion I am trying to start. Have Fun!
 
Jordan_Belfort said:
I think everyone expected Carthage to be better, given the experience they brought back from last year after getting beaten on. From purely a record standpoint, I’d say Branson is the bigger surprise.
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I agree the only surprise for me regarding Carthage is that I expected them to be better than they are. They are good but only seem marginally better than last year. All of the remaining games will be tough so we shall see how they end up. I would not be surprised if they go 3-0 or 0-3.
 
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sw5890 said:
I agree the only surprise for me regarding Carthage is that I expected them to be better than they are. They are good but only seem marginally better than last year. All of the remaining games will be tough so we shall see how they end up. I would not be surprised if they go 3-0 or 0-3.
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Carthage's offense really hasn't gotten any better at all from last year. The d line is very very good.
 
trumanbulldog42 said:
Class 1

1) St. Vincent (6-2)
2) Marionville (8-0)
3) Adrian (7-1)
4) Tipton (5-3)
5) Ash Grove (3-5)
6) Van-Far (4-4)
7) Pierce City (1-7) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
8) Penney (4-3)
9) Windsor (4-4)
10) Midway (3-5)

Class 2

1) Valle Catholic (9-1)
2) Warsaw (5-3) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
3) Bowling Green (7-1)
4) Lafayette County (7-1)
5) Fair Grove (7-1)
6) South Shelby (8-1)
7) Lamar (7-1)
8) Mid-Buchanan (7-1)
9) Caruthersville (5-3)
10) Ava (8-0)

Class 3

1) Seneca (7-1)
2) Blair Oaks (7-1)
3) Mt. Vernon (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
4) Maryville (4-3)
5) Borgia (7-1)
6) Strafford (7-1)
7) Dexter (6-3)
8) Lift for Life (4-6)
9) Southern Boone (6-2)
10) Boonville (4-4)

Class 4

1) Kearney
2) Lutheran North
3) Smithville (6-2)
4) Festus
5) Kirksville (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
6) Warrenton (7-1)
7) Hillsboro (7-1)
8) Nevada (6-2)
9) Osage (4-4)
10) Warrensburg (4-4)

Class 5

1) Cardinal Ritter (6-1)
2) Platte County (6-1)
3) St. Pius X (6-2)
4) Carthage (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Eureka
6) Helias (7-1)
7) Republic (8-2)
8) Branson (7-1)
9) Lafayette (Wildwood)
10) Grain Valley

Class 6

1) LSN (6-1)
2) CBC
3) Nixa (7-1)
4) Lee's Summit (3-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Blue Springs South
6) Liberty North
7) Blue Springs
8) Rockhurst (6-1)
9) De Smet (5-2)
10) Liberty

Some of the bigger schools didn't have info but I don't think it changed the overall outcome of the discussion I am trying to start. Have Fun!
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Lee's Summit and Kirksville are the obvious ones with a common denominator: Hired top notch HCs. We experienced a similar transformation here in Kearney two years ago...............
 
thetophat2021 said:
Lee's Summit and Kirksville are the obvious ones with a common denominator: Hired top notch HCs. We experienced a similar transformation here in Kearney two years ago...............
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It's crazy how that works isn't it?? I've got some friends who coach and they have helped turn their programs around/are in the process so great coaching goes a heck of a long way. Talent doesn't hurt lol
 
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Rawlathaballa90 said:
Carthage's offense really hasn't gotten any better at all from last year. The d line is very very good.
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The Joplin results support that. Carthage had just as much difficulty scoring against what I believe to be a weaker version of Joplin this year vs last. I was looking for them to win decisively or at least put up a lot of points, similar to republic if they were truly a top 5 team but they didn’t.

They have some nice weapons but anyone with a solid defense should figure them out and slow it down after a possession or two and once that happens there isn’t much margin for error, penalty, dropped pass etc. That could give Webb city an edge since their defense has for the most part remained in tact while their offense has stumbled.

I’m interested to see they match up with Republic.
 
trumanbulldog42 said:
When I labeled the most surprising team I was purely going off of projected by the cpu vs actual
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CPU must have been on smoking some crack that day if they had MV going 4-4, since MV seniors were freshmen they have all pointed to this being their year. However nobody saw Seneca really turning it around and being in the mix. If anything I think MV has under preformed.
 
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trumanbulldog42 said:
It's crazy how that works isn't it?? I've got some friends who coach and they have helped turn their programs around/are in the process so great coaching goes a heck of a long way. Talent doesn't hurt lol
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It begins with coaching in my opinion. I especially admire and root for schools like Kirksville who have enjoyed little or no success all time. Kearney, believe it or not, was in that boat back when I went to school here. First ever playoff appearance was (colder than the Antarctic in July) November 1986. First (and only until 2002) playoff win was November 1989. My old PE teacher Skillman was absolutely responsible for that amazing turnaround way back then...............
 
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thetophat2021 said:
It begins with coaching in my opinion. I especially admire and root for schools like Kirksville who have enjoyed little or no success all time. Kearney, believe it or not, was in that boat back when I went to school here. First ever playoff appearance was (colder than the Antarctic in July) November 1986. First (and only until 2002) playoff win was November 1989. My old PE teacher Skillman was absolutely responsible for that amazing turnaround way back then...............
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Couldn't agree more. A great coach can make a team with average talent into a really good team. I still don't think you can make a title run with average talent, been there and done that/seen that tried and it just doesn't work. But ultimately coaching is what makes the difference in big games if the teams are even remotely close talent-wise
 
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trumanbulldog42 said:
Couldn't agree more. A great coach can make a team with average talent into a really good team. I still don't think you can make a title run with average talent, been there and done that/seen that tried and it just doesn't work. But ultimately coaching is what makes the difference in big games if the teams are even remotely close talent-wise
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Same for Coach Bonuchi in Excelsior Springs. The Tigers had like 6 undefeated seasons from the 60s into the 70s. He quits. They stink for 20 years. He comes back in 1989 and won two state titles by 1996.
 
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Couldn't agree more. A great coach can make a team with average talent into a really good team. I still don't think you can make a title run with average talent, been there and done that/seen that tried and it just doesn't work. But ultimately coaching is what makes the difference in big games if the teams are even remotely close talent-wise
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Very hard, as we all know, to string a bunch of upsets together but I've seen some hellacious coaching in single games that shocked virtually everyone.
 
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JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU said:
Same for Coach Bonuchi in Excelsior Springs. The Tigers had like 6 undefeated seasons from the 60s into the 70s. He quits. They stink for 20 years. He comes back in 1989 and won two state titles by 1996.
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Same with Warsaw. Coach Morrow started a dynasty, left and then came back as well. Now a hometown kid has them on the rise again! Great to see in Warsaw again!
 
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But for the record, outside of Marionville, stocktons schedule is weakkkkkkk.

6 of the teams on their 9 team schedule are .500 or worse.

But they hired a new coach and jumped shipped to a primarily Class 1 conference cause they couldn’t cut it in the mid lakes so what do you expect?

Cleaned house on a coaching staff after a 4 win season was considered not good enough, then hire a new guy, join a weaker conference, proceed to have a 1-win season to start out in said conference(with all key players returning from year before) and look to be having their first season above .500 since 2016, miracles happen when he keep a coach for more than 2 years I tell ya.

They’d be middle of the pack at best if they were still in the mid lakes playing schools their own size (I realize there are a lot of C3s in mid lakes now)

That being said, my point is, they fired a coach who won 6 games in his first 2 years in a conference with bigger schools and hired a guy who goes on to win 5 games in his first two years against smaller schools, they keep him and up until this season he’s won 13 games in 4 years, but finally Stockton has a breakthrough season, which is inevitable if you don’t fire a guy after 2 years.
But I’m under the impression that the new coach that came in had familial ties with the administration there so, makes sense at the end of the day I guess.
 
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