That would be tragic if they had to make the same tough decisions and cost cutting that everyone else is having to deal with.
MSHSAA not allowing free post season streams?
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Been saying this for awhile...MSHSAA has to make money to pay for their bloated salaries and expenses, this is were all the schools admins need to say look this is ridiculous and get rid of these clowns, these people are way over paid for what they actually do.
Correct. Nxt Level Media posted to this to their Facebook page yesterday:
Exciting news for those Joplin Eagles fans that can't make it to Kansas City for the game this Friday against Rockhurst or get a ticket due to limited stadium capacity restrictions... We will be live-streaming this game with MSHSAA and will have more details to come tomorrow on how to access this event!
I hear this all the time, but aren’t the executive staff salaries open records. Instead of just saying it why don’t we post the salaries so we all know exactly what we mean we when day this?
Here was the salary available at an opening in 2015
Nobody is being forced to be a member; membership is strictly voluntary. However, maybe a mass secession is in order...as long as the seceders have a viable plan for what's next and that plan is actually better than what came before. My biggest gripe is executive bloat. If we can do all the functions of MSHSAA without all the executives (and the commensurate pay), then we should.
I have looked and this is from a news Artical from 2014 that Iowa did, So I would guess our Kerwin is close to making $200,000 by now in 2020. I linked the story. Really been hard to find anything about salaries or expenses related to MSHSAA.... but still looking.
Financial inquiry on IHSA begin today
Missouri State High School Activities Association Executive Director Kerwin Urhahn: $152,613 base, $27,036 added compensation - $179,649
Or, the schools just start dictating to the MSHSAA Board what will happen, instead of allowing them to make decisions that are not in anybody's best interest except the MSHSAA board themselves. Ultimately, the member schools run MSHSAA, not the other way around. Some people either don't realize that or forget it.
They don't necessarily have to get rid of anybody. Just make the necessary changes. Then they can take it or leave it.
We're really missing the forest for the trees here. The board is made up of superintendents of the member schools, so the member schools are already literally running MSHSAA. They are the ones who chose the executives.
“In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made school boards.”
― Mark Twain, Following the Equator: A Journey Around the World
― Mark Twain, Following the Equator: A Journey Around the World
This might be one of the most intelligent posts I've ever read on here. I'd love to see a quick little feasibility study done on that organization. Maybe a great place for member districts to start?
Sorry, I was not clear. I was referring to the schools telling the Executive Directors what to do. I was not referring to the Board of Directors. So many titles in a bureaucracy that it's hard to keep straight! My point was that the Executive Directors operate only with the consent of the member schools.
I think the issue is that School Administrators are sort of Pavloved into following their Lead. School Boards on issues like this need to dictate to their employee's how they will vote and what must be done. Get enough member schools on board and MSHSAA will dance like Bears at the circus.
Same goes for Salary's....always the same old song and dance you have to pay that much to get good Employee's. Pure Bunk someone will take the Job and do it well, if not fire and hire till you find them, I mean the bar that Mshsaa has set is dang low, doubt you could get much worse in decision making.
I think what the issue is that this affects so little people in the end that by the time the season is done the crowd size of those complaining has shrunk and the roar that was so loud in the beginning is just a few voices in the end, others have moved on and MSHSAA wins because well we won't be complaining until next year people have moved on.
This is were conferences should muscle up and come together and fight for their fans and for those who are still playing from their conference and area, so that the voices complaining in the end is not left to just a few who might still be playing.
This is were conferences should muscle up and come together and fight for their fans and for those who are still playing from their conference and area, so that the voices complaining in the end is not left to just a few who might still be playing.
I get it. You should see how many "executive" titles are in the board president's central office. Executive director of this, executive first officer of that.
2018 MSHSAA 990 form, includes top leadership salary:
Missouri State High School Activities Association - Form Form 990 for period ending Jun 2019 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.
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220,000 dollars!!!!!2018 MSHSAA 990 form, includes top leadership salary:
Missouri State High School Activities Association - Form Form 990 for period ending Jun 2019 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.projects.propublica.org
2018 MSHSAA 990 form, includes top leadership salary:
Missouri State High School Activities Association - Form Form 990 for period ending Jun 2019 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Since 2013, the IRS has released data culled from millions of nonprofit tax filings. Use this database to find organizations and see details like their executive compensation, revenue and expenses, as well as download tax filings going back as far as 2001.projects.propublica.org
I think I am in the wrong line of work...WOW... that sort of salary and it looks like all expenses are paid!
Over a million dollars in salaries and expenses for just 7 people.
HA! You all should see the alleged salary amount of booster club presidents!
Bosko it has been 5 years since I was president of the booster club and they have yet to beat the amount of money I raised in that time frame.
Now thats good to hear! The amount of funds a president can raise for his booster club is a direct correlation how successful of a president he is!
Fans need to take a stand and refuse to give MSHSAA a dime for a video stream. In the current pandemic people with compromised immune systems can’t attend the games, and most schools are limiting the number of fans anyway.
Again, I find your use of the word "alleged" interesting and perhaps a bit concerning.
NO COMMENT!!! Please see my lawyer! @J.Moxon
I agree what do they need to lobby for?
I wonder how those 7 decide to split up the Million in ill begotten booty.....I need to find away to be part of the Group of 7......once in I'm pretty sure I'd end up with the Lions Share of that Million.
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Typical government. They all get paid regardless of the pandemic. Many of us have been let go. Many laid off and even more without healthcare. Some have family or are themselves working in the medical industry taking risk for those with positive tests. Yet if we want to stream a high school game fully paid for by the taxpayers, we must pay online or go to the game. This is just High School folks. Most fans likely want to go to the stadium, but shouldnt or cant. Clearly, their only concern is loss of ticket revenue. There has NEVER been a time or season like this one, where Missyou, should without question or hesitation, open up the games online for free including playoffs in an effort to reduce spreading covid. Who the hell are these people? Please give names on here. We have a right to know and the media needs to be calling them all out on this.
Urhahn's total salary of $179,000 is not outrageous if you consider there are lots of superintendents making that much. Now there may be too many other MSHSAA executives and staff with inflated salaries, but you're going to have to pay the boss a decent salary.
Back to the original topic....
Does anybody know how far apart MSHSAA and Fox Sports Midwest were in the negotiations for the TV contract? I would like to hear MSHSAA's response to why a deal couldn't be struck. Tell us what the offer was and explain specifically why FSM's offer is prohibitive. Is it not comparable to other states' deals? Exactly why is it a bad deal from MSHSAA's perspective?
I don't understand why other states are televising their championships and Missouri cannot.
Back to the original topic....
Does anybody know how far apart MSHSAA and Fox Sports Midwest were in the negotiations for the TV contract? I would like to hear MSHSAA's response to why a deal couldn't be struck. Tell us what the offer was and explain specifically why FSM's offer is prohibitive. Is it not comparable to other states' deals? Exactly why is it a bad deal from MSHSAA's perspective?
I don't understand why other states are televising their championships and Missouri cannot.
Just because others make might make that sort of salary doesn't mean everybody is worth it. MSHSHAA has 7 employee's most Superintendents making that sort of money have hundreds.
Whoa @bullitpdq68 I'm sure they all have secretaries making near minimum wage who do most of the work
But the way MSHSAA is set up don't the local Sups & AD's do most of the leg work during the regular season? I have never seen any of those 7 at a regular season game.
