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MSHSAA might as well wait until all the small schools close

that has nothing to do with rural schools. Most rural schools perform well.

Is what they want to do going to help? Hell no. It's gonna be a mess and i'm sure you'll be here to let me remind you I said so.
Will it? It’s seems they are trying to copy Florida who happens to rank #1 overall for 2 consecutive years.

It’s been a mess for a while and clearly “highly educated” individuals such as yourself have offered nothing in the form of improvement.
 
Will it? It’s seems they are trying to copy Florida who happens to rank #1 overall for 2 consecutive years.

It’s been a mess for a while and clearly “highly educated” individuals such as yourself have offered nothing in the form of improvement.
Who is doing the rankings and what are the criteria? Educate yourself.

My solution is to return power to local boards of education. what works in your area obviously won't work in mine.

So butt out.
 
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Sounds good on paper but it’s not what is actually taking place. You know this.

But this is typical of public education. Focus on the top 1% and run everyone else through like a factory.

Missouri schools are failing. Depend on what rating system is used they ranks 30s at best. Ever since your liberal suburban districts in St. Louis, Springfield and Columbia pushed for funding based on attendance, areas they already excelled in, Missouri schools have steadily declined.

Poor attendance, a lack of accountability for not attending, and social promotion is a big part of the poor testing scores. After 110 days of school, my building has 15% of our students who have missed 20 more days of school. 7% have missed more than 30.

I can see how privates score better. It is almost like if mom and dad are paying 20k for Bob's soph year, they are probably pretty involved and make sure he is at school daily and doing his homework.
 
Poor attendance, a lack of accountability for not attending, and social promotion is a big part of the poor testing scores. After 110 days of school, my building has 15% of our students who have missed 20 more days of school. 7% have missed more than 30.

I can see how privates score better. It is almost like if mom and dad are paying 20k for Bob's soph year, they are probably pretty involved and make sure he is at school daily and doing his homework.
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Will it? It’s seems they are trying to copy Florida who happens to rank #1 overall for 2 consecutive years.

It’s been a mess for a while and clearly “highly educated” individuals such as yourself have offered nothing in the form of improvement.

Their high rating is based mostly on the colleges' and universities' graduation rates and average costs for in-state tuition. Their K-12 ratings on things that actually show what learning takes place in their public schools, you know like English and Math, are middle of the road to bottom half. I doubt they are touting that.
 
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Poor attendance, a lack of accountability for not attending, and social promotion is a big part of the poor testing scores. After 110 days of school, my building has 15% of our students who have missed 20 more days of school. 7% have missed more than 30.

I can see how privates score better. It is almost like if mom and dad are paying 20k for Bob's soph year, they are probably pretty involved and make sure he is at school daily and doing his homework.
What % of parents can actually afford to send their kids to private schools. Also... most private schools do not provide services for IEP kids.
 
Personally I think kids using ChatGPT and other similar apps to do their work and tests are kiling schools. Schools either don't have the capability or care enough to to stop it. There GPA looks greatbut when it comes to taking standardize tests they don't do well because they can't do the work on their own.
 
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Poor attendance, a lack of accountability for not attending, and social promotion is a big part of the poor testing scores. After 110 days of school, my building has 15% of our students who have missed 20 more days of school. 7% have missed more than 30.

I can see how privates score better. It is almost like if mom and dad are paying 20k for Bob's soph year, they are probably pretty involved and make sure he is at school daily and doing his homework.
All you needed to say was lack of accountability
 
I am not one who looks or is into arguing online, but seems strange to me there are schools with litter boxes in their bathrooms and probably 90% of students have a cell phone, but none of them have thought to take, post, and spread around pics of it. Seems strange that none of them showed the pics to their parents, and their parents, who would have a right to be outraged, didn't pursue fighting it or making a big deal about it.
Literally are pics of this and that is exactly how it got spread. You won't see it on scrubbed sites like Facebook as they have their own liberal fact checkers and community standards. Lmao
 
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You're doing them a disservice by doing away with tradition to save a buck.

Small town boys like me place a lot of value on tradition and loyalty. The world would be a much better place if the rest of you would get back to doing the same.
What's more important though, tradition or a good education? Definitely the latter. A lot of these tiny schools in random little towns have to hire teachers that probably shouldn't be educating and even if they should, they likely aren't as qualified. I agree that tradition and loyalty are great and important but it pales in comparison to a quality education get out of here with that nonsense
 
What's more important though, tradition or a good education? Definitely the latter. A lot of these tiny schools in random little towns have to hire teachers that probably shouldn't be educating and even if they should, they likely aren't as qualified. I agree that tradition and loyalty are great and important but it pales in comparison to a quality education get out of here with that nonsense
If you research the smallest schools generally do a great job educating. All kids aren't college material. That's a fact many won't face.

How do you define a quality education? What does it look like?

For some, that's vocational training which small schools usually do well. For some it's college prep. You can have advanced classes via technology. Are MAP tests really an indicator of learning? Have you ever seen the EOC's that MO students take?

I'd rather have a kid have to take AP chem via a local college (for credit!) vs having them in a school of 4000 where they're just a number.
 
Literally just about everywhere. If they don't call the student what they identify as then they are subject to scrutiny at the very least and punishment at the worst. It would be great if it weren't the case but unfortunately it is.
Im talking litter boxes. that's what's important. We have to get to the bottom of the litter boxes!


The other stuff ...does it matter?
 
If you research the smallest schools generally do a great job educating. All kids aren't college material. That's a fact many won't face.

How do you define a quality education? What does it look like?

For some, that's vocational training which small schools usually do well. For some it's college prep. You can have advanced classes via technology. Are MAP tests really an indicator of learning? Have you ever seen the EOC's that MO students take?

I'd rather have a kid have to take AP chem via a local college (for credit!) vs having them in a school of 4000 where they're just a number.
I guess it really depends on how small of a school you're talking. You are definitely right on a lot of this so I'm definitely not disagreeing with all of it. I'm thinking about schools with graduating classes of like 10.
 
I guess it really depends on how small of a school you're talking. You are definitely right on a lot of this so I'm definitely not disagreeing with all of it. I'm thinking about schools with graduating classes of like 10.
Schedules are limited in schools that small for sure.
They tend to overcome.
 
Literally just about everywhere. If they don't call the student what they identify as then they are subject to scrutiny at the very least and punishment at the worst. It would be great if it weren't the case but unfortunately it is.
Why is it “unfortunate” to call kids by their preferred name? If a kid’s given name is Thomas James Smith and he identifies as TJ, why would that be unfortunate? I’d just call him TJ and move on to more important things.
 
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What % of parents can actually afford to send their kids to private schools. Also... most private schools do not provide services for IEP kids.
Seems like a lot of times the ones who can run really fast or shoot a basketball real well find a way to afford it.
And correct on the IEP services, some of them don't have any sort of SPED dept at all.
 
All you needed to say was lack of accountability

Truancy officers are about extinct (lack of staff).
Child protective services won't get involved sometimes until over 40 plus absences (lack of staff).
Parents don't hold kids accountable (lack of interest, single parent family just trying to survive, drug/alcohol issues in family, grandparents raising kids, etc).
Perfect storm of unaccountability.
 
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Literally just about everywhere. If they don't call the student what they identify as then they are subject to scrutiny at the very least and punishment at the worst. It would be great if it weren't the case but unfortunately it is.
I've learned if you call them by their last name, you can avoid the drama and nonsense. I will say I don't agree with it, but reality is this affects about 1 out of 100 kids, and honestly most of them just want to be left alone and let them be them.
 
I've learned if you call them by their last name, you can avoid the drama and nonsense. I will say I don't agree with it, but reality is this affects about 1 out of 100 kids, and honestly most of them just want to be left alone and let them be them.
No they want the attention and drama get it right
 
Literally just about everywhere. If they don't call the student what they identify as then they are subject to scrutiny at the very least and punishment at the worst. It would be great if it weren't the case but unfortunately it is.
I am with veer once again. The percentage of HS students that are trans is extremely small. Don't believe in what is literal - the litter boxes in the bathrooms. Show me the analytical. Can you find those numbers of schools or are they all anecdotal? Tell me one anecdotal. Just one.
Years ago when MU had their problems it was said there was a "poop swastika" in a dorm bathroom. Gosh, why were there no pictures of that? College students not smart enough to be able to take a picture or one smart enough to post it on Facebook and know enough blithering idiots would believe it and laugh at them. But, of course the "main stream" media shut it down.
Small schools have higher attendance rates because they know where their students live. And, when it is all said and done, 4 years of math, language arts, social studies and at least 3 years of science, they are ready for a higher level. The rest they can pick up later.
 

 
I am with veer once again. The percentage of HS students that are trans is extremely small. Don't believe in what is literal - the litter boxes in the bathrooms. Show me the analytical. Can you find those numbers of schools or are they all anecdotal? Tell me one anecdotal. Just one.
Years ago when MU had their problems it was said there was a "poop swastika" in a dorm bathroom. Gosh, why were there no pictures of that? College students not smart enough to be able to take a picture or one smart enough to post it on Facebook and know enough blithering idiots would believe it and laugh at them. But, of course the "main stream" media shut it down.
Small schools have higher attendance rates because they know where their students live. And, when it is all said and done, 4 years of math, language arts, social studies and at least 3 years of science, they are ready for a higher level. The rest they can pick up later.
Guy from Monett told me there were litter boxes in Cassville. Another dude from Seneca told me they were found at East Newton. Nobody says anything about the ones I saw at Marionville!
 
As long as there taking a crap somewhere and not smearing it all over the place then who gives a crap. Parents don't read to kids when young. Kids can't read. Parents give phones to kids when they are in single digits to keep them busy rather then spend time them. The smart kids in college are not going to teach when raises don't match inflation rates. Minimum wage is close to beginning teacher pay. Pita kids, parents, administration. Standardized test are always biased. State doesn't tell you what's on the test so you gotta guess. Wth you expect. State government wants to get rid of small schools or school choice. Check what happened to Iowa around 90 or 91 with open enrollment and having a minimum enrollment size. 1 inch.
 
Why is it “unfortunate” to call kids by their preferred name? If a kid’s given name is Thomas James Smith and he identifies as TJ, why would that be unfortunate? I’d just call him TJ and move on to more important things.
That is obviously not what we are talking about...
 
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