The D Coordinator felt the need to attempt to justify why he "stuck" Coach Stuckey in the back; hence this thread. Watch who will be named the HC--posting is mere formality. The new HC most likely was in place before Stuckey was released.
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Was it Harv Welch? Coach Nickerson? Or did they go with a newbie HC and hire Stefan Djordjevic?
Sad Man is playing the wccards21 trick and following ShootDraw around. Cute but weird. Sad Man uses the word Goober loosely.
The amount of BS small school coaches have to worry about is unbelievable. I have to say firing a coach because little Johnny's max bench went down is probably a new low, however.
He is just upset that my post count and more importantly, my like count is higher than his......
Thanks, Veer. Sounds like Mountain Grove has the makings for a great reality TV show--people would watch that mess.
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I will say this your post is very Laughable and funny....Marriage had nothing to do with him being let go. And it wasn't that he delegated to much to his assistants at all.....they did a great job and the community was happy with that aspect. At the end of the day if you are hired to Run a weight room and to be at practice and organize practice and to instill a strong value of discipline with a hard work ethic foundation and you don't then at Grove you are not retained.
Well that is a long story in it's self......let's just say he got a recommendation from a former employee and nobody checked to see that his over all record was 42-71(pre-2015) for a 37% winning percentage until after he was hired. Plus he's a great guy to talk to, very likable and was great in his interview. But it became apparent rather quickly he wasn't the man for the job.
Maybe he could apply to some of the open positions this year and be a good fit. I hear that Cabool is opening up and that is just 9 miles down the road he wouldn't even have to move. Or he could head back to WP if they have a slot open.
Look we don't think we deserve some Super coach, just one who does what he is hired to do. If he had met those obligations he would still be the coach. The very people that hired him IE...the administration are the one's who fired him.The reason was do to his job performance in key area's. Sure some parents and fans also saw those shortcomings and the 180 degree difference his program as compared to the previous successful coaches at Grove but at the end of the day he was not recommended for rehire.
And the reason we haven't won a state title is simple......we usually don't have the talent to do so. We are successful and competitive do to having good coaches who develop and run a good program. Thus we have won a lot of game and been in the playoffs a lot. Thus the community knows and understands what it takes to win and what our players must do to be successful. Not working hard is clearly not going to work here. We never have that much talent.
It does suck to a Degree because Stuckey is a great person. Unfortunately some on this board wanted to throw stones at Grove and paint his dismissal as unjust and unwarranted. Which clearly was not the case at all. So the facts of the situation have now been put forth in public. Of course being a High School coach is a very public position and therefore public scrutiny is part of the job.
Clearly. I mean, some 17 year olds' max squats went down for God's sake. How much more justification do you need?
To be serious, I think high school coaches should be judged on three criteria, in this order:
The rest of the BS is just parents being whiners because they don't like the coach and the need some entertainment in their lives. It's sad that coaches get fired over this crap.
- Are their players staying out of trouble?
- Are their players doing well in the classroom?
- Are they having success on the field?
The rest of the BS is just parents being whiners because they don't like the coach and the need some entertainment in their lives. It's sad that coaches get fired over this crap.
You basically just fired every parent in THE GROVE community! You are now the most hated guy in the GROVE.
Hopefully mom tucked you in tonight!
So you say you don't have enough talent to win a title, but fire a guy for not producing all the talent needed to win a title. You are hard to follow. You want a guy that increases bench and squat totals. but knowing you will never win a state title you are OK with. How about this, get a coach like the guy you just fired, and say listen, he is their coach and not their parent, you guys are, please hold your kid accountable, make sure they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. like every other parent outside of the Grove is doing. Coaches don't raise kids, well unless nowhere.
Getting back to the business at hand.... I think Joel Wyatt out of Malden, who use to coach in that area, would do Grove one heck of a job. Don't even know if he's looking but I sincerely think he would take them to the next level.
She did more than that.
Really? You know that is wrong right? Oedipus complex!!!!
She did more than that.
That really defines your name! Sad But True!!
Well he failed on 2 of the 3...and he didn't think it was a issue that needed much work.
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It's clear you didn't get my drift....we haven't had enough talent in the past to win a title, but have had good coaches who maximize what we have and have made us competitive and put us in the running. The coach that was let go,allowed the program fall apart in half a season, and the assistant coaches had to carry the brunt of the work load and try to instill some discipline,with no backing from the Head man. . The players class room went to shambles, ISS was full up after years of no problems and as I've stated in the weight room players where standing around and doing very little work as the coach looked on.
If he had done something similar to Johnson,Ary, or Williams in the classroom,keeping kids out of detention and working them in the weight room a minimal amount then he would still be the coach. This bunch of players had no issues to speak of under Johnson.
Why would my statements fire the parents in Grove.....they put forth a effort to lay a foundation of discipline, and work in the classroom and the Head coach is not concerned with said issues other than giving lip service, and undermines the parents
assistant coaches and administrations efforts.
It all makes sense now, your kid never played! OK! You want a coach to parent. Just say that!
If the parents put the foundation in place for success in the classroom, why weren't the kids successful in class? And how do you know other kids' grades?
Isn't it hard to keep track of all of your login names? Or do you have a brother named Jake that post on here?
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This was a great read.
Lol I played ball at Grove in 2004 2005 on one of the best teams mtn.grove has ever seen ......and there's no way I would of stopped partying and and getting trashed ....I mean come on that's what you do when your young.... cause once it's all over its over ...then life kicks ya in the nutz.... and I'm not no dope head or alcoholic. ...and have a real good job .........let the kids be kids
Because they're still kids.
Stick to coloring books junior, you're in over your head.
I would think Wyatt would never come back to Grove. He coached there with Ary and I would think he would never want to go back. Grove is a horrible place to be a coach. The fans will literally bad mouth the coach and even their own players during games. The sideline yelling and bad mouthing is unreal. Never heard fans cuss at their own team. Anytime Grove is losing you will hear it.
