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I didn't see this posted anywhere else yet.

Mountain Grove has posted head football job. Stuckey only spent a year there, any insight into what happened?
 
I know the grovers thought it was a failed year. They were essentially 4 points away from going to the dome and he was labeled as a failure and under achieved
 
Not a lot of support in house from staff. Should of hired within. So Stuckey did not have to move his family and get it from behind. Great coach and guy.
 
I know the grovers thought it was a failed year. They were essentially 4 points away from going to the dome and he was labeled as a failure and under achieved
How were they 4 points from the dome, they lost in quarterfinals to Aurora. Not sure how you can equate points against a team in Odessa who they didn't even get to play in Semis.
 
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If that is all there is to it, its sad. Really thought they got about has far as they could have got last year. Most people would think a trip to the State quarterfinals is a good year. When you didnt even get out of districts the year before.
 
How were they 4 points from the dome, they lost in quarterfinals to Aurora. Not sure how you can equate points against a team in Odessa who they didn't even get to play in Semis.
They lost by 2 to aurora who lost to odessa by 2. While i know they didnt play odessa its not like aurora turboed them and then in turn got turboed
 
You guys are way off base on why Stucky was let go...while he is a great guy and was liked he was lacking in some dept. our discipline had went to heck and the weight room was in shambles. Also Stucky isn't married.


The lack of discipline was not well received by the higher ups and the PE style work ethic in the weight room galvanized the parents and fans to want a quick change.

His game day coaching and system was not the issue. As I stated Stucky was well liked by almost everyone. But with that said his style of coaching and such didn't mesh well in the community.

His Win/Loss record didn't factor into this decision nor did our Loss to Aurora...they clearly out talented us at most positions.
 
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You guys are way off base on why Stucky was let go...while he is a great guy and was liked he was lacking in some dept. our discipline had went to heck and the weight room was in shambles. Also Stucky isn't married.


The lack of discipline was not well received by the higher ups and the PE style work ethic in the weight room galvanized the parents and fans to want a quick change.

His game day coaching and system was not the issue. As I stated Stucky was well liked by almost everyone. But with that said his style of coaching and such didn't mesh well in the community.

His Win/Loss record didn't factor into this decision nor did our Loss to Aurora...they clearly out talented us at most positions.
So because the people that haven't ran a program didn't like the way he ran it, they ran him out?.... That's even worse than saying that the quarterfinal appearance wasn't good enough.
 
Well it appears you didn't read what I wrote or understand it....we had huge discipline problems with his style of coaching. To be blunt a lot of players didn't respect him and broke rules left and right with no consequences. And in the weight room minimal work was being done by most and no work by others and that was allowed to go on under his watch. It's not hard to evaluate those to aspects of a program and then move to correct those issues by making a change.

If a coach allows his players to run wild and cause problems and if said players are also not progressing in physical development and in many cases they are regressing then the outcome of being let go is very high.

His being let go wasn't just the reaction of a small faction who wanted him gone for personal reasons. Stucky while liked as a person....was no well received as a coach by the fans,players,parents and even those who hired him do to his coaching style. He wasn't a good fit for the Grove he might well be at some other program.
 
Well it appears you didn't read what I wrote or understand it....we had huge discipline problems with his style of coaching. To be blunt a lot of players didn't respect him and broke rules left and right with no consequences. And in the weight room minimal work was being done by most and no work by others and that was allowed to go on under his watch. It's not hard to evaluate those to aspects of a program and then move to correct those issues by making a change.

If a coach allows his players to run wild and cause problems and if said players are also not progressing in physical development and in many cases they are regressing then the outcome of being let go is very high.

His being let go wasn't just the reaction of a small faction who wanted him gone for personal reasons. Stucky while liked as a person....was no well received as a coach by the fans,players,parents and even those who hired him do to his coaching style. He wasn't a good fit for the Grove he might well be at some other program.

So you want the coach to get kids under control, what happened to parents being responsible for their own kids? If the parents knew this was going on why did they not get their kids under control.
 
Well it appears you didn't read what I wrote or understand it....we had huge discipline problems with his style of coaching. To be blunt a lot of players didn't respect him and broke rules left and right with no consequences. And in the weight room minimal work was being done by most and no work by others and that was allowed to go on under his watch. It's not hard to evaluate those to aspects of a program and then move to correct those issues by making a change.

If a coach allows his players to run wild and cause problems and if said players are also not progressing in physical development and in many cases they are regressing then the outcome of being let go is very high.

His being let go wasn't just the reaction of a small faction who wanted him gone for personal reasons. Stucky while liked as a person....was no well received as a coach by the fans,players,parents and even those who hired him do to his coaching style. He wasn't a good fit for the Grove he might well be at some other program.

How do people outside the program (including parents) have any idea what is going on in the weight room?
I'm not defending the decision, b/c I know nothing about it. Just rather skeptical that any parents would or should question anything that is or is not going on in the weight room.
 
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mg has run off several good coaches, I think I have stated that before, but hey, they can get the car dealership to bail them out, as long as they beat cabool
 
The Reason I stated he wasn't married was because some poster on this board was stating he had to move his family to Grove and therefore a hardship was placed upon them. At this time in coach Stucky's life since he wasn't married his close relation didn't relocate with him.

As far as the weight room goes.....it's not complicated if your son's are not dressing out and they are playing dodge ball most days and not lifting weights then it's a pretty easy to determine that not much work is going on. When your max's are going down as opposed to increasing then it's pretty clear than not much work is going on in the weight class. If your program has a night of champions(when players have their Max lift off) and parents,fans etc. are there to witness this drop in max's and the coach is compliant with players not completing lift's in the proper form and manner and in some cases stopping the lift and then starting it again and those extra reps counting toward their percentage of max lifts......well anyone can tell that the weight room is not being ran in a proper way and that the Head coach isn't making the weight room a priority. And when some Parents are taking their son's to outside facilities to lift, do to almost less than nothing being done in the in school weight program. Which is being ran by the Head coach then you have a major issue.

Also he had a habit of not being at several practices during the football season,this was a weekly happening.....leaving most of the work up to the coaches on the staff. If you have hired a Coach to over see the weight room and this is not happening and he is not always showing up to practice well then it's pretty clear that he is not the person for the job.

I will restate he is a good person and man but he was not the right fit for THE GROVE. We do wish him well and will always be proud of what he did accomplish.
 
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The Reason I stated he wasn't married was because some poster on this board was stating he had to move his family to Grove and therefore a hardship was placed upon them. At this time in coach Stucky's life since he wasn't married his close relation didn't relocate with him.

As far as the weight room goes.....it's not complicated if your son's are not dressing out and they are playing dodge ball most days and not lifting weights then it's a pretty easy to determine that not much work is going on. When your max's are going down as opposed to increasing then it's pretty clear than not much work is going on in the weight class. If your program has a night of champions(when players have their Max lift off) and parents,fans etc. are there to witness this drop in max's and the coach is compliant with players not completing lift's in the proper form and manner and in some cases stopping the lift and then starting it again and those extra reps counting toward their percentage of max lifts......well anyone can tell that the weight room is not being ran in a proper way and that the Head coach isn't making the weight room a priority. And when some Parents are taking their son's to outside facilities to lift, do to almost less than nothing being done in the in school weight program. Which is being ran by the Head coach then you have a major issue.

Also he had a habit of not being at several practices during the football season,this was a weekly happening.....leaving most of the work up to the coaches on the staff. If you have hired a Coach to over see the weight room and this is not happening and he is not always showing up to practice well then it's pretty clear that he is not the person for the job.

I will restate he is a good person and man but he was not the right fit for THE GROVE. We do wish him well and will always be proud of what he did accomplish.

I agree 100%!!
 
mg has run off several good coaches, I think I have stated that before, but hey, they can get the car dealership to bail them out, as long as they beat cabool

Where is your proof of this statement? What good coaches have we Ran off? And Mtn.Grove beating Cabool is like the Sun rising in the east.. so we don't even give that a second thought. LOL
 
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This thread is sure to create a lot of fans for Cabool, or any other team that is playing Mountain Grove.. Wow!
 
The Reason I stated he wasn't married was because some poster on this board was stating he had to move his family to Grove and therefore a hardship was placed upon them. At this time in coach Stucky's life since he wasn't married his close relation didn't relocate with him.

As far as the weight room goes.....it's not complicated if your son's are not dressing out and they are playing dodge ball most days and not lifting weights then it's a pretty easy to determine that not much work is going on. When your max's are going down as opposed to increasing then it's pretty clear than not much work is going on in the weight class. If your program has a night of champions(when players have their Max lift off) and parents,fans etc. are there to witness this drop in max's and the coach is compliant with players not completing lift's in the proper form and manner and in some cases stopping the lift and then starting it again and those extra reps counting toward their percentage of max lifts......well anyone can tell that the weight room is not being ran in a proper way and that the Head coach isn't making the weight room a priority. And when some Parents are taking their son's to outside facilities to lift, do to almost less than nothing being done in the in school weight program. Which is being ran by the Head coach then you have a major issue.

Also he had a habit of not being at several practices during the football season,this was a weekly happening.....leaving most of the work up to the coaches on the staff. If you have hired a Coach to over see the weight room and this is not happening and he is not always showing up to practice well then it's pretty clear that he is not the person for the job.

I will restate he is a good person and man but he was not the right fit for THE GROVE. We do wish him well and will always be proud of what he did accomplish.

So are you applying for the job?
 
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some poor fool will try to take it, a couple of coaches run off, roach, Johnson, that is football I'm sure many more, went through a coach every year in bball it seemed for a while,
 
The Reason I stated he wasn't married was because some poster on this board was stating he had to move his family to Grove and therefore a hardship was placed upon them. At this time in coach Stucky's life since he wasn't married his close relation didn't relocate with him.

As far as the weight room goes.....it's not complicated if your son's are not dressing out and they are playing dodge ball most days and not lifting weights then it's a pretty easy to determine that not much work is going on. When your max's are going down as opposed to increasing then it's pretty clear than not much work is going on in the weight class. If your program has a night of champions(when players have their Max lift off) and parents,fans etc. are there to witness this drop in max's and the coach is compliant with players not completing lift's in the proper form and manner and in some cases stopping the lift and then starting it again and those extra reps counting toward their percentage of max lifts......well anyone can tell that the weight room is not being ran in a proper way and that the Head coach isn't making the weight room a priority. And when some Parents are taking their son's to outside facilities to lift, do to almost less than nothing being done in the in school weight program. Which is being ran by the Head coach then you have a major issue.

Also he had a habit of not being at several practices during the football season,this was a weekly happening.....leaving most of the work up to the coaches on the staff. If you have hired a Coach to over see the weight room and this is not happening and he is not always showing up to practice well then it's pretty clear that he is not the person for the job.

I will restate he is a good person and man but he was not the right fit for THE GROVE. We do wish him well and will always be proud of what he did accomplish.
Sounds like an assistant did him in.
 
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some poor fool will try to take it, a couple of coaches run off, roach, Johnson, that is football I'm sure many more, went through a coach every year in bball it seemed for a while,


Roach Had multiple losing seasons......We don't take kindly to losing seasons. Johnson wasn't ran off he got in trouble with the Springfield police dept. so he was asked to resign he was a dang good coach and would still be at Grove if not for the problems.

And I'd think most coaches would love to come to Grove with the facilities they would have at their finger tips. And the Talent is usually pretty good so winning the SCA and dominating the SCA competition isn't a tall order. For almost a 100 years that has been the case.
 
Sounds like an assistant did him in.


No assistant coach did him in, in fact the whole staff went above and beyond and picked up many of the head coaching duties during the season. Let's be honest Stucky has a losing record as a head coach and the Grove job isn't the only job he has been shown the door at....Bishop LeBlond,Pierce City,Santa Fe, Hillsboro Grandview comes to mind as Jobs he has been fired from. Heck he was out of coaching 3~4 years before we gave him a shot. Maybe the ministry is really his calling.
 
some poor fool will try to take it, a couple of coaches run off, roach, Johnson, that is football I'm sure many more, went through a coach every year in bball it seemed for a while,
Well for you info mr freeze, Coach Johnson was not run off. He was ask to leave after a few encounters, outside of school business... He was a great coach, kids loved him and he is a winner!
So the disinformation you seem to be full of is way off base and wrong...

I will admit that The Grove is not for everyone, if you are going to come and coach football here you will be expected to work hard, work the kids hard, and win...
Wooooooooo
 
How many state titles for mountain grove?
Jake, The Grove has a big ole zero....
Cabool is the only team in the SCA, with a state titles.. In 68 or 69. You may already know this..
The Grove is by far the winningest football program in the SCA..
I'm not sure what winning the state title has to do with the subject, we are discussing..
 
Jake, The Grove has a big ole zero....
Cabool is the only team in the SCA, with a state titles.. In 68 or 69. You may already know this..
The Grove is by far the winningest football program in the SCA..
I'm not sure what winning the state title has to do with the subject, we are discussing..
Maybe the grove way doesnt work when playing schools your size. Beating up on cabool isnt a real feat.
 
It's worked great over the years... We have played and beaten schools twice are size.. Made it to the quarterfinals 3-4 times. We are one of if not the smallest class 3a school in the state..

It's not Cabools fault or ours that they have been down for years.. Their in SCA, so we play every year.. They had some very good teams in the late 80's..
 
It's worked great over the years... We have played and beaten schools twice are size.. Made it to the quarterfinals 3-4 times. We are one of if not the smallest class 3a school in the state..

It's not Cabools fault or ours that they have been down for years.. Their in SCA, so we play every year.. They had some very good teams in the late 80's..
Sorry to break this to you but good programs see getting to the quarterfinals as an average year. Was mountain grove class 2 not long ago?
 
So your son
The Reason I stated he wasn't married was because some poster on this board was stating he had to move his family to Grove and therefore a hardship was placed upon them. At this time in coach Stucky's life since he wasn't married his close relation didn't relocate with him.
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As far as the weight room goes.....it's not complicated if your son's are not dressing out and they are playing dodge ball most days and not lifting weights then it's a pretty easy to determine that not much work is going on. When your max's are going down as opposed to increasing then it's pretty clear than not much work is going on in the weight class. If your program has a night of champions(when players have their Max lift off) and parents,fans etc. are there to witness this drop in max's and the coach is compliant with players not completing lift's in the proper form and manner and in some cases stopping the lift and then starting it again and those extra reps counting toward their percentage of max lifts......well anyone can tell that the weight room is not being ran in a proper way and that the Head coach isn't making the weight room a priority. And when some Parents are taking their son's to outside facilities to lift, do to almost less than nothing being done in the in school weight program. Which is being ran by the Head coach then you have a major issue.

Also he had a habit of not being at several practices during the football season,this was a weekly happening.....leaving most of the work up to the coaches on the staff. If you have hired a Coach to over see the weight room and this is not happening and he is not always showing up to practice well then it's pretty clear that he is not the person for the job.

I will restate he is a good person and man but he was not the right fit for THE GROVE. We do wish him well and will always be proud of what he did accomplish.

So your son's were not getting stronger? They don't dress out for weights ? and you turn to mosports to say it is the coaches fault. Most problems start at home, not the other way around. I wish I had son's! You are a lucky man, but to place blame on them not being productive on another, well maybe mom needs to step in and be the man in that family!

But I am sure as you put it THE GROVE will keep excelling after they get rid of the weak link!
 
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