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I wouldn't say weaker at all simply that STL is much, much, much better than just a few years ago. Going to make for some UNBELIEVABLE matchups in November and first day of December!
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The real rankings will be complete in about 5 weeks.
For me, it doesn't really matter where Lamar is ranked in this poll. They are a crazy talented group that are the reigning C2 Champs. And that is that until another team nuts up and figures out to de-throne them. Monroe City figured out how to do it last year in C1 over Valle.
Same goes for Webb in C4. They are the undisputed champs until Ladue or anyone else breaks through. So much easier said than done.
And, all this talk about Trinity.....sheesh. Will they even make it to the ship this year? Gotta freakin' get there to win it.
I'm going to enjoy sitting back and watch it all unfold - hoping Pattonville and Carthage, of course, put together strong runs and break through with their first state championships.
I don't know anyone who would call the Big 8 East very strong. Lamar and Cassville would/will boat race any team in the East side(AKA Big 8 Light). Cassville has already turbo clocked Reeds, and Catholic.
You're right, FBisLife12, and your comment made me laugh because I used to say that about the previous playoff system (which I preferred) when District play started in week 8. Back then, weeks 1 through 7 were just warm-ups and it made no difference who your team played. I said then that it made no difference, but everyone thought "pre-season" games should count for something. Now, you've realized that those games still make no difference.
It’s high school football. I like that every team makes the playoffs. I like that kids get the opportunity to learn from earlier losses and gel. I like that coaches can find ways to improve their teams over time and make a run into the post-season. It’s ALL good.
Every team made the playoffs in the previous system, too; playoffs just started in week 8 back then instead of week 10. Same thing goes for your "improve their teams over time" comment. The only difference between then and now is that a team could lose a district game back then and still qualify to play in week eleven.
In the old system, you could be held out of the playoffs because of a point differential, and a team you beat in district play could be in. That is now not possible. All games are decided on the field. Winner stays.
Well first place will be decided, the others might be subjective....
But then we'd have to hangout on the political crap board or work. Not sure about anyone else, but that's not something I want to do a lot of!
Again, as I said, ALL TEAMS WERE IN THE PLAYOFFS (starting in week 8) in the previous system and the only difference is that you could lose a game in THE PLAYOFFS (weeks 8, 9 or 10) and still play in week eleven. Furthermore, a team you beat in weeks 1 through 9 can now beat you in week 10 and play in week 11. Same difference.
We were talking about the East and West sides of the Big 8
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Sorry I forgot you all formed that superconference.............We were talking about the East and West sides of the Big 8
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It is a pretty big difference that you could lose in the old district system. There is nothing termed a “playoff” at any level in football where, once you begin those “playoffs,” you can lose and still get to play. Thus, the old 3 team districts were not playoffs, but I’ll give you that they were playoff-like, and many teams (and people) thought of them as playoffs; they just weren’t an actual playoff; they were a playoff qualifier. This is not a topic worthy of the time both you and I have wasted posting on it; it’s really just a question of semantics and perception.
He is actually right.. in cross-over games East was something like, 13-8 vs the West. He is talking about top to bottom strength. Before the season all the talk was that it would be the opposite.
Jackson HS runs Glendale’s Air Raid Offense. They’re gonna put up huge passing numbers out of it bc they’ll throw the ball 40 times a game.
Umm... actually, more like 26 passes and 34 rushes per game. Jackson does NOT run Glendale's Air Raid Offense and any team that thinks so will be in for a big surprise.
Yeah. That was a puzzling observation. Jackson will possibly win state honestly.
Glendale's offense? I didnt know they invented an offense. Jackson's coach has been running that offense at every stop for at least a dozen years, maybe longer.
No offense, but this is one of the less intelligent post I've read on here. Did you not see Cassville dismantle Reeds, Catholic, and would have done the same to MV. Lets not let the Big 8 title blind us from just how bad the small COC is at football...
Nice opinion sir. That was one of the least Intelligent posts I’ve read on here. The big 8 routinely has teams competing for state. Sorry to burst your bubble. Have a good day.
Referring to you thinking the west side as the weaker part of the big 8. Funny stuff.
Cassville is the best team in the conference. That’s not a indicator towards which side is “worse at football”. Cassville also beat Lamar. Cassville would beat anyone in the conference. Some years the West side will be tougher. And some years the other side will be toughest. And if you were to actually read previous posts? That was obviously directed towards this season. Not the yearly scenario.
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Is the guy that was at Union in the early 2000's still at Jackson? Name escapes me.
I'm just trying to figure out how this season you can justify that the east side is tougher? There isn't a team on the east side that Lamar and Cassville couldn't turbo clock if they wanted to.
It’s top to bottom a more even division in the conference this season. Not to mention 3-4 ranked teams throughout the season. Doesn’t mean there’s a team that can beat Lamar or Cassville. Both are programs that could turbo a ton of teams in or out of the conference. You don’t get the intention of the post. It’s deeper than the other side. Lamar and Cassville are good. The rest stunk it up this season specifically.
How do you figure? Below is how the divisions finished. Cassville, Lamar are sure wins if the play accross. I think Seneca beats Marshfeild. Reeds and Monett I think would be a good game, But Reeds is hard to get a read on, they blanked Seneca but then lost to Marshfield and had almost 600 yards of offense in that game? Mac County Beats Hollister. Nevada and Aurora would be a push. Log Rog would roll the Newt. So I just don't see how the rest stunk it up compared to the other side?
Cassville9-0,6-0 Mt Vernon 8-1 5-1
Lamar8-1,5-1 Catholic 7-2-5-1
Seneca 4-5,4-2 Marshfield 7-2, 4-2
Monett 4-5,3-3 Reeds 6-3, 4-2
McDonald Co.3-6,2-4 Hollister 4-5, 2-4
Nevada1-8,1-5 Aurora 2-7, 1-5
East Newton0-9,0-6 Log Rog 0-9, 0-6
Stunk it up? What were the records of the bottom two teams on the east side? State rankings are great for the local fan who wants to hop on the bandwagon, and let everyone know how great their town is. When those state ranked teams can't even give a legitimate team in their own class a competitive game then those rankings don't mean much. RS MV and SC are all average teams playing below average competition most weeks.
Not here to argue. Pointing out facts. You are not wrong, just misguided on the reason of stated point. I’m being literal. You are trying to win a argument, that no one else saw a need to have. Have a nice day.
It's really hard to compare the East to the West because they don't play the same schedules. This isn't an argument that is winnable. The West teams that had to play Cassville and Lamar. That is 2 losses right off the bat. I think we could all agree that had the East teams had to play each that is 2 more losses on their records at least 1 more than anyone else in the west as I don't think any team in the east had to play both. Very hard to just look at records and say that this team is better than this team.
He’s looking for one. I simply stated my opinion in a conversation. Lol I agree totally.
If Reeds, Catholic, or MV really are in the Top 10 of the state in Class 3, it really doesn't say much for the level of football in the the state.. In most years, those 3 teams would have finished in the middle to bottom of the traditional Big 8, let alone the state.
