Supreme Court decides 6-3 that bump stocks do not convert a semi automatic weapon into a machine gun and are legal for citizens to own and use.
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I was wondering, if the right to bear arms is given by God, do undocumented immigrants have a right to own guns?
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Here’s a rhetorical question: what exactly do they do, then?
They let you pull the trigger quicker. Their point is that to fire the cartridge there must be a pull on the trigger each and every time the gun is fired as opposed to a machine gun which continues to cycle as long as the trigger is held back,
Is it the United States Constitution or the Illegal Immigrants Constitution? Not sure why you think an illegal immigrant should have the same rights as US Citizens...
I'm not sure the ATF carries much weight against the Constitution. The only restrictions in the document are in regards to voting and running for office as far as I recall.
I guess I don't know the Constitution verbatim, but does it say it's a God given right? You are trying to dig way too hard.
Did I not say that it was a rhetorical question? (Hint: that, too, was a rhetorical question.)
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How is owning a gun or weapon a God-given right? You asked the question if the Constitution overrides God, but nowhere in the Bible does it mention guns. I guess I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this?The fact is, the U.S. Constitution protects our God-given rights from government. The government does not (as the phrase above implies) grant those rights to us as citizens. This is perhaps the most widely misunderstood aspect of our system of government.The right way to think about rights
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I think people confuse God-given and God.
Can a felon own a gun? These are man made laws. God didn't create these laws. God didn't create the Constitution. God gives you the right to free will, but that doesn't mean it's ok to murder.
So these laws can be changed by man? So exactly why does man have a right to own a gun? Why can't it be changed?
Lol it can be. Aren't people trying to constantly change gun laws? Has the Constitution ever been changed?
Yes it has been amended many times. But the forefathers never saw our country with anything near 50 states and never meant for it to be this difficult to amend. Jefferson wanted it to be reworked regularly.
They never imagined bump stocks nor the internet nor nuclear weapons nor dishwashers, yet some of you act like they were gods who saw everything coming. It is absurd.
It can easily be changed. Talk your elected representative into sponsoring and getting a constitutional amendment passed by Congress and ratified by 38 states and anything in the current constitution can be changed.
The founding fathers realized that the constitution would need changed as our world evolved and provided a clear means to do so.
I never once said anything about not changing the Constitution or anything of that nature. I've just been responding to your counterpart about God-given vs God. God didn't write the Constitution. Just because humans say it's a "God-given" right doesn't mean God made the rule. I honestly can't believed I have wasted this much time trying to explain this to him.
Where in the Constitution does it say felons can't own a weapon?
That law is unconstitutional.
So easy, in fact, that it has been changed a whole 27 times in 236 years. Easy peasy. The last amendment of which was first put forth shortly after the Constitution went into effect and was finally ratified by enough states in 1992. It’s not that I dislike that it’s really difficult to pass an amendment, quite the contrary; I think it’s great that it’s difficult, but when people disingenuously say that it can be easily changed, that is patently false.
Didn't say it did. Hence the part of man made law. You need to read the whole thread to understand what I'm trying to explain to him or what we have been arguing about.
You literally responded to my post with a question. I answered your question.
Again you were wrong and have to divert some other way so you can have the last word to make it seem like you were correct. It's like arguing with a woman.
Then you might want to tell your gun nut friends that owning is not a God-given right and they should stop using that phrase to defend why they shouldn't lose their guns.
I think that a person being able to defend their person and family is a god given right. The right to keep and bear arms is a right granted to all people by our founding fathers and enshrined in the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
If guns in this country are such a big problem then you and your like minded left wing nutjobs should have no problem getting an amendment outlawing guns and knifes and slingshots and spitballs past congress and approved by the states.
I mean heck look how far the Equal RIghts Amendment got back in the 70's
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FBI statistics on mass shootings for 2023 show out of 61 events in 43 cases the assailant used a common handgun, in 17 cases they used a rifle and one case they used Bidens weapon of choice a shotgun.
Not a single one of the shootings with a rifle involved a bump-stock
Typical case of the media jumping on the wrong wagon.
FBI statistics on mass shootings for 2023 show out of 61 events in 43 cases the assailant used a common handgun, in 17 cases they used a rifle and one case they used Bidens weapon of choice a shotgun.
Not a single one of the shootings with a rifle involved a bump-stock
Typical case of the media jumping on the wrong wagon.
I am still trying to figure out your logic as to who God gave rights to.
God made the Ten Commandments , Founding Fathers made the BIll of Rights
They have nothing to do with each other.
