Is it time? Is it time Webb City?
- Thread starter Mr Goldtooth
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The COC newcomers are now 1-11. They end the season playing each other so someone will probably finish the season strong out of that group.
Hopefully he will do the honorable thing and fall on his sword
The last SamuraiHopefully he will do the honorable thing and fall on his sword
The only real “heritage” COC teams left in the COC are Ozark, Nixa, Republic and Willard.
All the Southwest Conference teams joined what… a decade ago?
Got it. Laziness on my part. Heritage was easier to type than “the teams that just joined this year”.
I was just saying lol.
There have been some on this board that don’t realize Webb city hasn’t been in the COC forever lol
Some probable don't even remember that Carthage Webb Neosho use to be part of the Big 8. They were founding members.
I remember seeing them play in the SWC particularly one blowout after another at Nevada.
Wonder how many roadtrips to Lebanon and Waynesville it will take before Carthage Webb and Neosho begin to look back at the SWC a little more fondly?
Pretty sure Nixa is already the destination, I've been saying that for years and the population growth backs that up, it just doesn't get talked about as much because they have sucked at football until now.
For what it's worth Webb City played schools like Lebanon, Camdenton and KC Central back in the SWC days because they needed opponents. Travel (for football) was just as bad back then as now. But there are factors that could possibly make a re-tread of the old SWC worth considering. If the likes of Nevada and McDonald Co can compete I could see adding them, along with CJ, to Webb Carthage Joplin and Neosho. That's a decent SW Conference with room to schedule up or down depending on each schools preference.
The other thing is Jr High sports in this new conf are terrible. Not because of Lebanon and waynesville but because of all the SPS middle schools. Was talking to a parent the other day who said they've been playing these SPS middle schools in volleyball, making all these trips to Springfield and these schools don't even know how to play. So far in 3 games haven't seen even one successful overhand serve from any of those schools. The final scores are like 25-3, 25-4, etc with SPS only points being serve errors. Maybe other sports are better I don't know. But I don't see that arrangement lasting long.
I would put a hold on that until Nixa has won a handful of trophy’s. So far the case is dusty
Where doesn't Kickapoo get their volleyball players if the Springfield middle schools suck?
Yes I agree about junior high sports. Both the Springfield and Joplin areas have enough bigger schools to end all of this travel. The Joplin schools can include Pittsburg as well.
Webb is like Kearney in a lot of ways. Both dominate Class 4 and are pedestrian in class 5. At least Webb nabbed a championship in Class 5. Kearney was sucked into a black hole during their time in Class 5 until the football gods pulled them out of purgatory and landed them back into Class 4.
As for this year's Webb team, they have no deep pass defense. Just throw the ball deep and you're assured a TD.
As for this year's Webb team, they have no deep pass defense. Just throw the ball deep and you're assured a TD.
I’ve been told the basketball is good at the middle school level in SPS, but one has to wonder if it will seem that way since there are so many middle schools. Could be watered down. Similar to West Plains having 6 middles schools that play basketball.
Kearney made the 2013 C5 semifinals ran into an all star LSW moving to their permanent C6 home. They will do just fine when they move back up.
That ain’t a new thing. Nixa athletics have had their fair share of move ins over the years. JP is just smart enough to get them to play football no matter the cost. Bball player that needs to shoot hoops before school during football season? Sure, not a problem. Just come catch some passes on Friday night. JP gets it boys, you don’t have to be 1000% committed to football 1000% of the time to be successful.
Possible it’s a situation similar to what used to be the case in Joplin. When they joined the coc each of the middle schools had their own team and apparently they couldn’t compete with the other coc districts that had all their eggs in one basket so to speak. Now they combine them, A and B teams play COC and I guess they have C teams as well that play a different schedule entirely, mostly smaller schools in the area.
I don’t know enough about SPS to speculate if such a thing would even be possible there. Seems like it would be really complicated and not worth the effort.
That is the problem with too many sports in too many schools now. Coaches say you’re either in 110% with my sport or you’re out. To their defense I kinda get it because they are under pressure to win and they want everyone committed but if that means some of your best players aren’t playing I’m not sure you’re really ahead.
My daughter played junior high basketball at CJ during the last year that each Joplin middle school had their own girls basketball team. Joplin girls basketball is bad enough for whatever reason but those teams split into 3 teams was horrific.
I know this is a football board but there is more to choosing where to live and send your kids than the football program. Out of 352 ranked HS’ in Mo, check out Kearney and Nixa. No Springfield public schools in the top 100. So if you are successful in the Springfield area and you want the best for your kids, where are you headed? Nixa or maybe Republic and steering clear of Central and HillCrest If you work in the Joplin area you are checking out WC (51) and CJ (61). Joplin High checks in at 170.
Nixa will be near the top of many COC activities for some time to come.
Nixa will be near the top of many COC activities for some time to come.
| Rank | School | Grades | Score (2023) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Metro High | 9-12 | 97.5 |
| 2 | St. Elizabeth High | 6-12 | 95.7 |
| 3 | Kearney High | 10-12 | 91.3 |
| 4 | Ft. Zumwalt South High | 9-12 | 90.7 |
| 5 | Ft. Zumwalt West High | 9-12 | 90.6 |
| 6 | Nixa High | 9-12 | 90.6 |
| 7 | Francis Howell High | 9-12 | 89.5 |
| 8 | Collegiate School Of Med/Bio | 9-12 | 89.1 |
| 9 | Park Hill South High | 9-12 | 88.8 |
| 10 | Clayton High | 9-12 | 87.6 |
Not really a loss just have held steady but lots and lots of young families moving into this community those kids eventually will be in HS.
Bingo! I know I throw shade at the “west” schools all the time, but I can honestly say it’s all performance art and in good fun. I respect those schools because of their small town/community/school values and the emphasis on athletics. SPS sub HS level sports are an absolute $hit show. And nobody seems to care. Bball is just as bad. Not even sure how football is still alive at that level in SPS. For as well managed as I believe their HS programs are, their non HS programs seem like an absolute mess.
It's better than crappy at the schools that feed Poo, other than that it's a huge mess.
