that allows a business/company to refuse service to, or not hire, anyone they don't agree with for "religious" reasons. Most say it is a way for gay and lesbian people to be discriminated against legally. Big companies are speaking out against the law and some are stopping new construction or possibly leave the state. Angie's List was about to break ground on a $40 million expansion but that is on hold.
Indiana Governor Mike Pence signed a "religious freedom" bill
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. They convince themselves they are 'right' and the rest can go to brimstone.
Well the real world doesn't work like that. Hope Indiana loses their shorts over this.
Why, in America, does anyone who OWNS a business THEY paid for, have to do busines with ANYONE whether for a good or bad reason? If someone doesn't want to do business with me for any reason, I have no right that supercedes their right of personal property.
I agree. But be prepared to pay the price.
Indy governor is backpedaling faster than kenny calling out anonymous haters.
In what way? Bill of rights allowed slavery, for example. Giving women and minorities the right to vote required constitutional amendments. Legally, there's a better argument that the Bill of Rights allows discrimination than that it opposes discrimination under the 9th and 10th amendments.
Black, white, homosexual, heterosexual, young, old, legal, illegal, or anything else.
Refusing service to blacks seems ridiculous to me but it should be their right. It would also be at the risk of being boycotted and stigmatised. Their right none the less.
What if your business patron was Muslim , and that goes against your religious beliefs . So you don't have to serve them ? That's called discrimination and it's against the law .
Yes it is, but it shouldn't be. It would be foolish to discriminate based on religious affiliation unless said patron was doing something as a member of that affiliation in your business place you could not tollerate. True freedom allows stupid people to be stupid but does not require me to participate in it.
I hope your children don't share your views, they're going to have a rough go of things when white protestants are no longer a "majority" in this country.
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Why is discrimination ok when its against White People??
They even have a Politically Correct name for it "Affermative Action"
They even have a Politically Correct name for it "Affermative Action"
It's hypocrisy on the part of white business owners. They have no problem providing services for couples who use the lord's name in vain or engaged in premarital sex.
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Does a florist really ask if it's a gay marriage when they are asked to bring the flowers and get paid for it? Would they not deliver flowers for gay guy's funeral if they were getting paid for it or would just not take the order if it was gay person calling? I would think in business it would be don't ask don't tell, their money is green too.
Just asking, but what if a local known Klan member called up a local Minority to cater an event? I mean would those minorities have the same right to turn down that business as a florist who does not want to deliver flowers to a gay guys funeral?
The Gov.says he was proud to sign the bill. It was a good bill
But he wants a fix on his desk? Uhhhhhhhhhhh.
He also says it mirrors the federal bill signed by Clinton
No, it doesn't. Section nine of the bill makes it a whole
new ball game.
Bulllit people are born gay. They aren't born KKK members.
But he wants a fix on his desk? Uhhhhhhhhhhh.
He also says it mirrors the federal bill signed by Clinton
No, it doesn't. Section nine of the bill makes it a whole
new ball game.
Bulllit people are born gay. They aren't born KKK members.
I understand that but when a law is written will it? Freedom is not always free either. Just asking how that would work? Yes you can say what you want and about how they are not the same but the law don't care. There are lots of good intention laws that hurt alot of people because a good lawyer can twist it how they want. I mean if you are a small business owner trying to make a living and faced with a discrimination laws suit that in the end might not be won however it will cost you thousands of dollars to fight what happens?
Sure the law cares. One is a protected class in many states and soon to be federally and one is not.
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Well I think it is just a matter of time before the law gets twisted, wasn't it just a few years ago that the KKK won the right in court to adopt part of a HWY down south using a law? I never heard if that got overturned or if they still do that. I know the ACLU represented them in that lawsuit.
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ACLU to represent Clan
Well yes. There are sets of laws governing business practices and there's another set of laws governing highway cleanup.
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Yes it is. Typically in a lawsuit it has to be a protected class and the plaintiff must show a pattern of behavior. KKK guy is going to be an isolated incident and racists aren't going to get sympathy from any judge unless Miller or Dango are on the bench.
The issue never has been doing business with homosexuals. The issue has always been participating in a celebration of sin. What sin is there in a homosexual dying?
If you don't have Christian principles to live by then yes, all money is the same.
This sword cuts both ways. If a gay owns a screen printing business, I have a feeling he/she isn't going to be doing t-shirts for a rally against that cause.
If I owned that type of business and someone come into my shop and wanted me to print something to promote racism I would refuse that also.
Why as a business owner should I be made to do something that is against my religious beliefs?
If I owned that type of business and someone come into my shop and wanted me to print something to promote racism I would refuse that also.
Why as a business owner should I be made to do something that is against my religious beliefs?
T-shirts, and bakeries are one thing. You are the only pharmacist within 20 miles, or the only grocery store. That's a different ballgame.
No one has even hinted about not serving homosexuals because they are homosexuals! Why would you need a pharmacist for a homosexual to get married? Selling a homosexual groceries wouldn't be against any doctrine. Participating in their marriage would.
The origins of the law had nothing to do with a wedding. It was a bakery refusing to make rainbow cookies for a gay/lesbian event at IUPUI.
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