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Fun fact: Class 3 public school champions

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With PHC's win in the show me bowl, they become the first East side public school to win a MO class 3 (or3A) state title since SG in 1992.
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I guess Blair Oaks is "Central Missouri" ? Although geographically past the center line to the East.
 
Glad that Blair Oaks, Monett, Oak Grove, Maryville (3x), Logan-Rogersville, Richmond, Cassville (2x), Harrisonville (4x), Platte County (3x), Aurora, Boonville, California, Seneca, and Odessa (2x) didn't buy in to the "private schools can't be beat" bullshit.
 
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Glad that Blair Oaks, Monett, Oak Grove, Maryville (3x), Logan-Rogersville, Richmond, Cassville (2x), Harrisonville (4x), Platte County (3x), Aurora, Boonville, California, Seneca, and Odessa (2x) didn't buy in to the "private schools can't be beat" bullshit.
I dont' recall anyone saying what you quoted and also it's a lot different playing in class 3 vs class 1.

That's why you won't see valle dominating in class 2 and up.

it comes down to numbers.

MSHSAA let them run rampant long enough to ensure the life of 8 man though.
 
J Kane please post your map again.................:)

While I will make a submission to the Oxford English Dictionary to re-define the word "playoff" to EXCLUDE post-regular season sudden death games to decide a winner that will move on to a championship.
 
While I will make a submission to the Oxford English Dictionary to re-define the word "playoff" to EXCLUDE post-regular season sudden death games to decide a winner that will move on to a championship.
Count me on the side of saying the "playoffs" are State Quarters on except in the miniaturized Class 1.
 
Count me on the side of saying the "playoffs" are State Quarters on except in the miniaturized Class 1.

There are The Playoffs, then there is the generic "playoff". The first round of districts is for all intents and purposes the generic playoff.
 
With PHC's win in the show me bowl, they become the first East side public school to win a MO class 3 (or3A) state title since SG in 1992.
Discuss.
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North County won in 97 and 03 if I remember correctly. Can't remember if they were class 3 or 4 back then. But even with those it was still 20 plus years between titles.
class 3 champ in 03 was harrisonville.
1997 was California.

Webb won class 4 in 97; Kearney won in 2003.

North County's best finish ever was 2nd in 1997 when they lost 44-14 to webb in the final.
 
class 3 champ in 03 was harrisonville.
1997 was California.

Webb won class 4 in 97; Kearney won in 2003.

North County's best finish ever was 2nd in 1997 when they lost 44-14 to webb in the final.
You are correct. That was in baseball. Mind is just not what it used to be. I knew they had one good team back then.
 
Others could say the east side public schools don't pony up to help their case. Their are multiple programs in the mineral area and boot that are running 5+6 man operations from Freshmen-Varsity level in Class 3 & 4. If you just roll through Mshsaa's website and look at the coaches listed for each school you can see the disparity between the average SE & SW programs.
 
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Others could say the east side public schools don't pony up to help their case. Their are multiple programs in the mineral area and boot that are running 5+6 man operations from Freshmen-Varsity level in Class 3 & 4. If you just roll through Mshsaa's website and look at the coaches listed for each school you can see the disparity between the average SE & SW programs.
You made my case. Should a Missouri high school have 10 varsity football coaches?
 
You made my case. Should a Missouri high school have 10 varsity football coaches?
As opposed to filling the classrooms with cranky overweight and out of touch English and History teachers who clock a 7-3 shift and go home, hell yeah. But unfortunately, Missouri is scraping the bottom of the barrel in teacher pay so it isn't like people are lining up to come here to teach and coach, but that's a whole different discussion
 
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As opposed to filling the classrooms with cranky overweight and out of touch English and History teachers who clock a 7-3 shift and go home, hell yeah. But unfortunately, Missouri is scraping the bottom of the barrel in teacher pay so it isn't like people are lining up to come here to teach and coach, but that's a whole different discussion
we're talking public schools not privates.
 
My understanding is that administrations on the western side of the state are more likely to allow a new head coach to bring assistant coaches with him than they are in the east.
 
My understanding is that administrations on the western side of the state are more likely to allow a new head coach to bring assistant coaches with him than they are in the east.
i'm not sure I know where that's happened in class 1-3.
 
You have no idea what goes on in public school classrooms.

I can watch film on east side football.

Plus, history speaks.
I'll concede, I'm sure the trials and tribulations of a 175 student rural school have educated you far beyond my comprehension. Not that any of those unknown possibilities would alter an opinion that it's beneficial(standard practice in the west) to have more than 5 paid coaches when your trying to run a Freshmen, JV, and Varsity program. I mean what are we talking about..
 
I'll concede, I'm sure the trials and tribulations of a 175 student rural school have educated you far beyond my comprehension. Not that any of those unknown possibilities would alter an opinion that it's beneficial(standard practice in the west) to have more than 5 paid coaches when your trying to run a Freshmen, JV, and Varsity program. I mean what are we talking about..
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I’ve coached for programs that had 3 or 4 varsity coaches and 2 freshmen coaches.
We beat teams that had 10 varsity coaches more often than not. I know that I would prefer for my child not to be coached by the 8th, 9th or 10th best coach on the staff.
 
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I'll concede, I'm sure the trials and tribulations of a 175 student rural school have educated you far beyond my comprehension. Not that any of those unknown possibilities would alter an opinion that it's beneficial(standard practice in the west) to have more than 5 paid coaches when your trying to run a Freshmen, JV, and Varsity program. I mean what are we talking about..
how many small public schools have more than 5 paid coaches?

Butler Holden and Adrian don't.

I'm not sure if Lamar are all paid or not.

My experience in public schools has been varied between the largest schools and the smallest. You sir have zero knowledge and only go by what you want to believe. I've actually been in the classrooms. You have not.

Is that the excuse? Some west teams have more assistants?
 
I’ve coached for programs that had 3 or 4 varsity coaches and 2 freshmen coaches.
We beat teams that had 10 varsity coaches more often than not. I know that I would prefer for my child not to be coached by the 8th, 9th or 10th best coach on the staff.
While that's a nice anecdote, but I can raise you one to the point of the question raised on the thread. In this area, There isn't a lot of investment in coaching staffs.. more people bring more knowledge & raise the floor of the play. Park Hills Central has 12 coaches listed on MSHSAA (an exception, and a successful one), Potosi, a bigger district, 20 miles up the road has 5. Park Hills has beaten them 14 out of the last 15 tries and not a single game they won has been within 7 points. Who do you want your kid coached by
 
how many small public schools have more than 5 paid coaches?

Butler Holden and Adrian don't.

I'm not sure if Lamar are all paid or not.

My experience in public schools has been varied between the largest schools and the smallest. You sir have zero knowledge and only go by what you want to believe. I've actually been in the classrooms. You have not.

Is that the excuse? Some west teams have more assistants?
Others could say the east side public schools don't pony up to help their case. Their are multiple programs in the mineral area and boot that are running 5+6 man operations from Freshmen-Varsity level in Class 3 & 4. If you just roll through Mshsaa's website and look at the coaches listed for each school you can see the disparity between the average SE & SW programs.
And for the record, it's not a sole 'excuse', it's an example, for a theory(lack of investment), that is an answer, to a question, that YOU asked. I should have reminded myself that we're not actually entertaining any ideas here, we're just buying time until it's an personal argument or a doc guy gif contest(which J.Kane is providing quality content on that front)
 
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