former Springfield HS player appealing eligibility at Liberty HS

[Fort80]

Clay County judge to decide whether to grant Liberty High School senior basketball eligibility

A Clay County district court judge is now considering whether to grant a Liberty High School senior eligibility to play his varsity basketball season.

www.kmbc.com

 

[SWMOhardwood]

They keep omitting the real reason it got denied.

Rue and another Central starter (Pittman) attempted to go to Parkview this year. Even had meetings with PV athletic Director and principal. (Parkview principal and Central principal are married. Not necessarily important here, but interesting.) They were told “no” because they hadn’t moved. There was no bullying claim. Just wanted to get away from that team. Pittman went back to Central. Rue decided to move. But only him. They were mistakenly told that as long as someone else had guardianship that MSHSAA would allow it. Claiming unsafe environment, but only moving schools 4 miles away, is a little suspect. Thinking that the most popular athlete on campus is being bullied is suspect.

The lesson here? Dont make plans publicly, or send emails, or text messages, indicating you’re going to try to circumvent the rules. Just quietly go about it.

It’s a stupid ruling. Kids should be able to do this. Coaches can leave for a better opportunity whenever they want.

 

[mizzourahfan]

They keep omitting the real reason it got denied.

Rue and another Central starter (Pittman) attempted to go to Parkview this year. Even had meetings with PV athletic Director and principal. (Parkview principal and Central principal are married. Not necessarily important here, but interesting.) They were told “no” because they hadn’t moved. There was no bullying claim. Just wanted to get away from that team. Pittman went back to Central. Rue decided to move. But only him. They were mistakenly told that as long as someone else had guardianship that MSHSAA would allow it. Claiming unsafe environment, but only moving schools 4 miles away, is a little suspect. Thinking that the most popular athlete on campus is being bullied is suspect.

The lesson here? Dont make plans publicly, or send emails, or text messages, indicating you’re going to try to circumvent the rules. Just quietly go about it.

It’s a stupid ruling. Kids should be able to do this. Coaches can leave for a better opportunity whenever they want.

You want kids to move every year? You want legalized high school recruiting? Look at college right now. It's awful. Making that the high school scene would be awful for sports. At some point, there needs to be accountability for kids. Pack up and leave when things don't go your way? Woof

 

[MoSooner69]

Its not free agency. Its supposed to be public schools. Not sure about this case. But talking about coaches being able to leave has nothing to do with students. Look what a similar stance has done to college football.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Woof

Bro...watch it

 

[Eagles_Ball]

They keep omitting the real reason it got denied.

Rue and another Central starter (Pittman) attempted to go to Parkview this year. Even had meetings with PV athletic Director and principal. (Parkview principal and Central principal are married. Not necessarily important here, but interesting.) They were told “no” because they hadn’t moved. There was no bullying claim. Just wanted to get away from that team. Pittman went back to Central. Rue decided to move. But only him. They were mistakenly told that as long as someone else had guardianship that MSHSAA would allow it. Claiming unsafe environment, but only moving schools 4 miles away, is a little suspect. Thinking that the most popular athlete on campus is being bullied is suspect.

The lesson here? Dont make plans publicly, or send emails, or text messages, indicating you’re going to try to circumvent the rules. Just quietly go about it.

It’s a stupid ruling. Kids should be able to do this. Coaches can leave for a better opportunity whenever they want.

There's some irony in an SPS employee having an issue with a transfer.

 

[SWMOhardwood]

Its not free agency. Its supposed to be public schools. Not sure about this case. But talking about coaches being able to leave has nothing to do with students. Look what a similar stance has done to college football.

Right. Public schools. If you MOVE into another district, there’s no reason to not allow you to play. It’s asinine. Who cares why. Or, you’re still working the same job as always, right? Never left for a better opportunity?

 

[MizzouMan96]

They keep omitting the real reason it got denied.

Rue and another Central starter (Pittman) attempted to go to Parkview this year. Even had meetings with PV athletic Director and principal. (Parkview principal and Central principal are married. Not necessarily important here, but interesting.) They were told “no” because they hadn’t moved. There was no bullying claim. Just wanted to get away from that team. Pittman went back to Central. Rue decided to move. But only him. They were mistakenly told that as long as someone else had guardianship that MSHSAA would allow it. Claiming unsafe environment, but only moving schools 4 miles away, is a little suspect. Thinking that the most popular athlete on campus is being bullied is suspect.

The lesson here? Dont make plans publicly, or send emails, or text messages, indicating you’re going to try to circumvent the rules. Just quietly go about it.

It’s a stupid ruling. Kids should be able to do this. Coaches can leave for a better opportunity whenever they want.

You're right, but it's sad to see the transfers (specifically in SPS) that get allowed versus the ones that don't. If you're trying to get a brown and yellow jersey, it's perfectly fine.

Anybody else? pffffffft.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

You're right, but it's sad to see the transfers (specifically in SPS) that get allowed versus the ones that don't. If you're trying to get a brown and yellow jersey, it's perfectly fine.

Anybody else? pffffffft.

While I SOMEWHAT agree...dude...two words. Trey. Starks. Granted, was forever ago. But still. That's just solid proof SPS is an absolute cesspool when it comes to stuff like this.

Edit to include Ty Freeman as well.

 

[MizzouMan96]

While I SOMEWHAT agree...dude...two words. Trey. Starks. Granted, was forever ago. But still. That's just solid proof SPS is an absolute cesspool when it comes to stuff like this.

Edit to include Ty Freeman as well.

Ok, what about Haney and Brazile? Christian Kirk? Rylee Tan? They are notorious for this stuff. They aren't alone, but they are the most egregious.

SPS has to get a handle on transfers and the consistency involving them.

 

[wahoolives]

Ok, what about Haney and Brazile? Christian Kirk? Rylee Tan? They are notorious for this stuff. They aren't alone, but they are the most egregious.

SPS has to get a handle on transfers and the consistency involving them.

From reading about this case it doesn't appear that Central or SPS has offered any resistance to his move unless I am missing something. Just a MSHSAA decision. Kirk kid that moved from Kickapoo to St Louis area and back to Kickapoo was ineligible for his senior season at Kickapoo.

 

[SWMOhardwood]

Ok, what about Haney and Brazile? Christian Kirk? Rylee Tan? They are notorious for this stuff. They aren't alone, but they are the most egregious.

SPS has to get a handle on transfers and the consistency involving them.

Tan has always lived in Poo district. Should’ve never been at Republic.

 

[SWMOhardwood]

You're right, but it's sad to see the transfers (specifically in SPS) that get allowed versus the ones that don't. If you're trying to get a brown and yellow jersey, it's perfectly fine.

Anybody else? pffffffft.

SPS didn’t say no. Parkview did. We all know if they’d chosen Kickapoo the AD there would’ve had them in a jersey by 3pm.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Ok, what about Haney and Brazile? Christian Kirk? Rylee Tan? They are notorious for this stuff. They aren't alone, but they are the most egregious.

SPS has to get a handle on transfers and the consistency involving them.

Dude, I said I agreed. But Poo isn't the only one. Whole place is a cesspool. Poo just has more money and resource than anyone else. When Schaeffer was at Hillcrest and Cornish was at Parkview they both had enough connections to make some magic happen.

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

SPS didn’t say no. Parkview did. We all know if they’d chosen Kickapoo the AD there would’ve had them in a jersey by 3pm.

 

[ChaoticFanatic]

I didn’t read the article but I did her last week that part of it was cause he moved in with his AAU coach up in KC or something to that effect.

 

[FishOutofWater6]

Are there any more legal moves to be made or was this the final effort to try to play ?

 

[bhunt95]

Judge basically kicked the can back to MSHSAA. Judge said he couldn't overrule their regulations

 

[AC100]

So why did he want to leave Central? They are pretty good this year.

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

Last year's Central team was surprising good... not Poo good but much better than typical Central basketball rosters.

 

[ChaoticFanatic]

Last year's Central team was surprising good... not Poo good but much better than typical Central basketball rosters.

I mean… they did beat Kickapoo both times they played last year, including ending the Chiefs’ season

 

[SWMOhardwood]

So why did he want to leave Central? They are pretty good this year.

He and another starter both wanted out. Nobody wants to okay with that coach. Brooks only ended up there last year after Parkview and Poo said no thanks.

 

[AC100]

So basically an unpopular coach destroyed that team.

 

[mowesten]

Should play him anyway, take the L’s and then try to make a run without him as an 8 seed in districts.

 

[AC100]

Should play him anyway, take the L’s and then try to make a run without him as an 8 seed in districts.

My guess is they don't want to piss off MSHSAA long term

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

I mean… they did beat Kickapoo both times they played last year, including ending the Chiefs’ season

Well Sir, I stand corrected! I should of stated historically speaking The Poo' has been a better basketball program than Central over the last say ...10 years...

 

[freezeoption]

Coaches can't leave whenever they want, they got a year contract. Now a school can pull that contract anytime they want. Its skewed to the schools. Schools are finding out that crap will hurt them.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

If a kid physically moves it shouldn’t matter.

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

Too bad the AD at SPS Central doesn't agree with you...

 

[cardsfan200306]

If a kid physically moves it shouldn’t matter.

if a kid is recruited by his aau teammate and or school personnel it should

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

if a kid is recruited by his aau teammate and or school personnel it should

But I've been told public schools don't do this!! "Friends of the program" is a myth

I'm going to disagree; if a kid physically moves, the reason shouldn't matter. Now, I will agree with school personnel not being involved; then, it should be considered tampering and recruiting. I just think if these kids and parents decide their child needs to be in a different place that might improve their situation and future, the reason, whether it be athletic, academics, or a combination of the 2, shouldn't matter.

 

[cardsfan200306]

But I've been told public schools don't do this!! "Friends of the program" is a myth

I'm going to disagree; if a kid physically moves, the reason shouldn't matter. Now, I will agree with school personnel not being involved; then, it should be considered tampering and recruiting. I just think if these kids and parents decide their child needs to be in a different place that might improve their situation and future, the reason, whether it be athletic, academics, or a combination of the 2, shouldn't matter.

That's what makes this place great! We can disagree and not have to be nasty. I take the other side here though if SPMO hasn't been unsafe for 17yrs but all of a sudden you move in with an AAU teammate and leave momma in that unsafe environment I'm calling BS. You moved for athletic reasons with tampering as it's an AAU teammate so you are ineligible. Let's see if they pursue this further

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

That's what makes this place great! We can disagree and not have to be nasty. I take the other side here though if SPMO hasn't been unsafe for 17yrs but all of a sudden you move in with an AAU teammate and leave momma in that unsafe environment I'm calling BS. You moved for athletic reasons with tampering as it's an AAU teammate so you are ineligible. Let's see if they pursue this further

You can count the number of times I gotten nasty with on one finger.

I think there would have to be direct recruiting from a school staff member for there to be tampering. Though moving in with a coach would lead anyone to believe there is tampering

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

So the million dollar question is: Whats the real reason for Wells leaving a program that he did well in (23'-24')? Apparently- for a student to make 2 different attempts to go somewhere else🤔 ... what didn't help Well's case was Pittman going back to Central after the visit at Parkview. I find bullying and unsafe environment claims very difficult to believe.