Dupee after 17 seasons is 87-98 overall as a HC.
Eldorado Springs- 21-21
Monett- 34-25
Ozark- 32-52
Eldorado Springs- 21-21
Monett- 34-25
Ozark- 32-52
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Those look like extremely consistent numbers to me. I don't think you can find many other guys who are still head coaches in the area, at any level, that win as much as he has consistently.
Don't you guys know this is a Nixa/Kickapoo basketball thread?
From this PA girls vantage point it looks like maybe Ozark is the problem.
Have they ever won anything?
Ozarks last three HC
Chris Allison 70-33, 5 districts champs
Mark Bliss 31-23 1 district champ
Chad Dupee 32-52.
Ozark has never won a state championship in football.
They’ve played in the same conference playing the same schools more or less for the last 18yrs. I can understand playoff runs but regular season is same basic schedule.
Wrong again? What was wrong the first time? I simply stated what the previous HC records were. I was wrong about the conference. You discredited his record when they played in class 4. It was an observation that they played 6 of the same schools they played in 2004 in 2022 in the regular season and continued playing most of the same schools they have for the last 18yrs!
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Ozark was the team that eliminated Carthage in 2007 when they finally got past Webb City for the first time in recent memory. That was a decent Ozark team but I personally think it was a case of Carthage being completely inexperienced with post season play and not knowing how to respond following a monumental win over their arch rival.
Seemed like back in those days Ozark was one of those teams kind of like how Lebanon is right now, going to win a lot of regular season games but can't seem to get over the hump in post season.
Literally was typing about Ozark as you posted. They were the ONE Springfield area school that seemed the most consistent back in the day. Ten short years ago they went to the C5 semifinals losing at Fort Osage after holding off a very powerful Lee's Summit West who was without their #1 player but regardless that was probably their best all time team.
They were in WPs district in Class 4 in 2002-2003
In 2002, undefeated 8-0 Ozark came to WP and lost to the 4-4 Zizzers, who finished the season 5-5 and district runner up to Nixa, losing to the Eagles 28-21 in Week 10
Also beat a 6-2 or 7-1 Ozark squad in their own house the next season in 2003 Week 9. WP was again a mediocre 4-4 squad heading into that game who finished 5-5 losing the District Championship to Nixa again that year.
Chad Dupee has been at least as consistent if not more consistent then most other high school coaches coaching at the same time, that are not at Webb City
I have no dog in the fight and no nothing about the man or where he has been. However he has an under .500 record. Thus as a Head Coach, he has barely been average. He may still have done a hell of a job with the talent he has (I have no clue) but from a record perspective, it's likely he hasn't gotten the job done well enough. Most coaches don't stay around with a career record under .500. Not sure what you mean by consistent, but appears that he has been consistently mediocre at best.
Believe it or not, there are a lot more head coaches with a career record under .500 than over it, so if you can maintain around .500 for a sustained period of time, that’s a more of an accomplishment than most think.
I’d say winning 47% over 17 years is alright.
How many active head coaches in Missouri that have been a head coach for at least 17 seasons are higher than that? There aren’t many.
JROD of Webb City is 315-35(26 seasons?)
That’s 90% exactly
Steve Ary(he’s been coaching in Arkansas the last 3 years, but before that with Willow Springs for around a decade, Mt Grove for 7-8 years, and West Plains for 7 years) is 196-117
That’s 63%
What are some other active head coaches in Missouri that are over .500 and have been a head coach for at least 17 years?
I’m sure there are a few but not many
I’m guessing Fred Bouchard is one of them
I understand what you are saying but my point was, that other then Webb City and Lamar in southwest mo, you are not going to find many, coaches who have a better overall record then he does
Definitely Bouchard
Greg Jones (left last year)
Bill Utz
Jason Ambroson
David Allie
Todd Vaughn
Chad Frigon (maybe less than 17 but at least over 10)
To name a few KC coaches off top of head
Jon Guidie has been at Carthage since 2004 and so far has never had a .500 or below season. As best I can tell he is 172-49 for 78%. That it pretty impressive especially when you consider they play Webb City at least once every year.
In fact WC alone accounts for 20 (over 40%) of all of Carthage's losses. Ozark and Nixa are probably a (very) distant second. They each maybe have 4 or 5 wins over C-town.
Many of Carthage seasons have only 1 loss to Webb City plus 1 loss to whoever ends their season in the playoffs - sometimes that is also Webb City. Only 2016 and 2022 have NO losses to Webb.
However they've never had a perfect full season - the '19 state championship team had regular season losses to Webb City and by 1pt to Joplin. 2021 which I consider to be Carthage's best team ever had a perfect regular season but lost to Webb City in districts. They have won the COC or a share of the COC several times.
Sometimes people wonder why Carthaginians have such a chip on their shoulder regarding Webb City and why they get so excited about beating them but the above synopsis explains it pretty well.
So, some of those were mentioned as having less than 17 and some were mentioned as being retired. So I’m still wondering how many of them are over .500 with at least 17 years as a head coach.
I’ll dig in and run some numbers on the names listed.
I’ll dig in and run some numbers on the names listed.
What about that coach that retired to start an alpaca farm? I think he is around the high 60's in winning percentage.
Active Head coaches over .500 w/ 17 years min.
John Roderique: 315-35 (26 years) 90%
Fred Bouchard: 201-48 (23 years) 82%
Kelly Donohoe: 205-68 (23 years) 75%
Ted LePage: 196-64 (22 years) 75%
Dale Gildehaus: 296-111 (36 years) 73%
*Jason Ambroson: 159-63 (22 years) 72%
Brad Drehle: 133-81 (18 years) 62%
**Paul Day: 149-95 (22 years) 61%
Todd Vaughn: 134-92 (20 years) 59%
Bill Utz: 147-113(25-26 years) 57%
* for Coach Ambro, missing 2 of his early years at Moberly(I think)
**for Coach Day, I couldn’t find anything on his record in his 5 years @ Owensville in the 90s, so I excluded those from his record as well as years coached
Also found conflicting articles, some saying he was head coach @ Zumwalt West for 13, some said 15
—Tony Dudik isn’t an active current head coach anymore
—Greg Jones isn’t an active head coach since he left to be an assistant at Oregon
—was only able to obtain David Allies current record at Grain Valley and about half of his record from his 14 years as the head man at Raytown South so I won’t post since I don’t have all of the Raytown South.
He was about 63% winning percentage from what I had
—Chad Frigon hasn’t been a head coach for over 17 years
Any other coaches feel free. I’m sure there’s some out there that haven’t been mentioned, but as I said in a previous post, ACTIVE coaches that have been a head coach for at least 17 years with a record over .500 isn’t going to be a very long list.
John Roderique: 315-35 (26 years) 90%
Fred Bouchard: 201-48 (23 years) 82%
Kelly Donohoe: 205-68 (23 years) 75%
Ted LePage: 196-64 (22 years) 75%
Dale Gildehaus: 296-111 (36 years) 73%
*Jason Ambroson: 159-63 (22 years) 72%
Brad Drehle: 133-81 (18 years) 62%
**Paul Day: 149-95 (22 years) 61%
Todd Vaughn: 134-92 (20 years) 59%
Bill Utz: 147-113(25-26 years) 57%
* for Coach Ambro, missing 2 of his early years at Moberly(I think)
**for Coach Day, I couldn’t find anything on his record in his 5 years @ Owensville in the 90s, so I excluded those from his record as well as years coached
Also found conflicting articles, some saying he was head coach @ Zumwalt West for 13, some said 15
—Tony Dudik isn’t an active current head coach anymore
—Greg Jones isn’t an active head coach since he left to be an assistant at Oregon
—was only able to obtain David Allies current record at Grain Valley and about half of his record from his 14 years as the head man at Raytown South so I won’t post since I don’t have all of the Raytown South.
He was about 63% winning percentage from what I had
—Chad Frigon hasn’t been a head coach for over 17 years
Any other coaches feel free. I’m sure there’s some out there that haven’t been mentioned, but as I said in a previous post, ACTIVE coaches that have been a head coach for at least 17 years with a record over .500 isn’t going to be a very long list.
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He won’t do it at this stage, but Doug Buckmaster could turn a program like Ozark around in one year.
I could see that. I’ve often felt like his style is just a bit much for what he has to work with at cj in most years.
It's 27-17 overall. Nixa won three out of the first four meetings.
Jan. 15, 2006
Chiefs(28-4) 61 - Eagles(18-10) 49 (9-4)
Dec. 30, 2005
Chiefs(28-4) 58 - Eagles(18-10) 66 (8-4)
Dec. 20, 2005
Chiefs(28-4) 64 - Eagles(18-10) 60 (8-3)
Dec. 21, 2004
Chiefs(30-1) 73 - Eagles(17-8) 53 (7-3)
Dec. 30, 2003
Chiefs(24-6) 53 - Eagles(19-9) 52 (6-3)
Dec. 29, 2001
Chiefs(26-2) 66 - Eagles(28-5) 50 (5-3)
Nov. 30, 2001
Chiefs(26-2) 61 - Eagles(28-5) 57 (4-3)
Dec. 3, 1999
Chiefs(22-8) 66 - Eagles(19-9) 64 (3-3)
Dec. 30, 1997
Chiefs(28-2) 60 - Eagles(23-6) 48 (2-3)
Jan. 31, 1997
Chiefs(18-10) 54 - Eagles(15-12) 56 (1-3)
Dec. 29, 1987
Chiefs(16-11) 60 - Eagles(22-5) 55 (1-2)
Dec. 30, 1985
Chiefs(20-8) 42 - Eagles(27-6) 46 (0-2)
Dec. 30, 1972
Chiefs(15-12) 58 - Eagles(24-4) 59 (2 OT) (0-1)
Bliss and Allison were in class 5 and they only had to better than 3 other teams. Now Ozark in Class 6 and you have to beat 7 other teams. I'm not arguing for either side just pointing out the district argument would be apples to oranges. I don't think any of those Ozark teams wins a class 6 district under the current structure. Maybe Bliss's team they had lots of talent.
Remember Allison's teams some of those were in the old COC playing Buffalo Marshfield Rogersville. I don't know what year Chris left? The large COC started in the season of 2008 I believe.
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Dale Gildehaus @ Borgia 296-111 (36 years) .727 Winning Percentage
I’m gonna cheat and add Clay Lasater. Doesn’t have 17 years yet but his record is 121-53 (or something very similar) in 16 seasons at Lockwood.
Also a MO Valley guy @GreenDefender
He’s done very well there.
I’m sure his record in only going to get better being in 8 man now.
Here, here! THIS Joe knows whats what!can you really considered wins in 8-man because is it really football?
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