Was this the last game for Buckmaster?
Agreed. It would be his choice if it was his last game at CJ. No way he is on the blockIf it was his last game , that will because he choose for it to be. He is no danger of getting fired.
There will be less talent next year than there was this year and even less the year after that.Agreed. It would be his choice if it was his last game at CJ. No way he is on the block
Agree...and we should've redshirted Wall. That kid would've been a stud as a fifth year senior.I also think with Ray ...they go 7-4 or 8-3 . They would still be done right now but he would have really helped them
I also think with Ray ...they go 7-4 or 8-3 . They would still be done right now but he would have really helped them
It is not Buck's fault. My daughter did youth cheer 4 or 5 years ago and every grade lost every week. Those grades lost in junior high and are now coming into high school. Every school has a down cycle. The question is why or how Webb never does.I don't think he is some kind of Messiah or offensive God he has got a reputation to be BUT he's a solid coach in a tough spot . When you only have 15 kids per grade playing football ....no matter who is coaching ...you are going to have some lumps . Figure out who to blame that on but I can guarantee it's not one single person at fault ....it's a collective fail
That is true but if the younger high school classes had 50 kids out they would still not be very good. They just don't have any athletes in those classes.Problem is ..when you have about 20 freshman playing ....by the time they are seniors ....there will be like 9.
Webb has 55 freshman this year .....there will only be 30ish when they are seniors ....it seems normal to lose about half of them between 9-12 for various reasons ....but when you only start with 15-20...it's bad news .
They mentioned on the CJ broadcast that some of the seniors had already moved on.Sounds like #84 for CJ didn't get enough reps to appease their parents.
I wondered what happened to the really big kid who was a sophomore.Sounds like #84 for CJ didn't get enough reps to appease their parents.
He made them both relevant again. Joplin's offense became explosive for this area. The CJ program was completely turned around during his current tenure.What did b master do for Joplin or CJ
Besides blame the kids?
Being a senior should have absolutely no relevance to playing time if you are going to judge a coach on wins and losses.Buck has gotten the program on a winning track. He, and other coaches, are just exceptionly bad at playing players (especially if you're 3-4 steps slower than the kid, starter, who is bad at blocking and doesn't know when to make cuts). I see it as reaping what you sow. At Webb kids wait their turn to play, there's no turn at CJ. I don't believe in kids quitting anything in life, but there are a few exceptions and CJ is it. We're not talking about kids who don't do camps and weights, late to practices, or get into trouble. These are honor roll kids who show up and work hard at everything the coaches have them do and are good citizens. They actually work harder than most of the starters. Their parents aren't ones yelling about their kid is a super star and needs to play. They're parents who have been keeping quiet-- until this year. They want to know why their kid has altogether 2 minutes of playing time in 2 years with half of their games being lop-sided scores. Two seniors didn't get to play in first WC game! They're kids who didn't play in Joplin. I don't blame seniors for leaving in this case. This is a poor reflection of the coaches--not the kids and parents!
No disagreements with you.......but in blowouts might be able to sneak them in. I completely agree that you play the best to win but when game is out of hand you build the program and give kids playing time.Any chance these guys got JV minutes?
I don't know. Maybe everyone did the right thing here.
If you're a senior? And not getting any kind of playing time?
I'm sure it feels like a waste of time.
Also not sure there is an obligation to play them.
Maybe if I'm a junior this year and not playing much?
Maybe I either bust my hump to improve in the off-season? Or, I go do something else next football season.
No one should probably be 'promising playing time' unless it comes with some requirements to be met. Maybe it did.
I am 110% in agreement with all your points ... my only hesitation is that these kids will be gone next year as Seniors.No disagreements with you.......but in blowouts might be able to sneak them in. I completely agree that you play the best to win but when game is out of hand you build the program and give kids playing time.
Not from CJ just can see he will run up the score and not use backups to build the program.Sounds like #84 for CJ didn't get enough reps to appease their parents.
Not from CJ just can see he will run up the score and not use backups to build the program.